If Jesus was God, explain this verse...

[Kenny]

Where is that in the bible?
"Your spirit is supreme and is supposed to have authority over your soul and your body for your spirit is greater than your soul which is greater than your body. Your soul and your body doesn't know everything but your spirit does."

James 1:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also. The only reason your body is alive is because your spirit is in you. Your spirit is eternal your body is temporal. Your spirit is greater than your body.

Rom 8:16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: (It doesn't bear witness to your soul but to your spirit. Your spirit is greater than your soul.

John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. (Your spirit looks like the Spirit because it is born of God -- your soul is not born again nor is your body) Your spirit is greater than your soul and body.

Phil 3:3 For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh. We worship God in the spirit (they that worship Him will worship Him in spirit and in truth) -

1 Cor 14:2 For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.
14 For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful.
Your spirit speaks unto God but your soul has no understanding. Your spirit knows more than your soul.

II Cor 5:7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight Faith is spiritual, sight uses body and soul - your spirit is greater than your body and soul

Do you want more?


1 Thess. 5:23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

you are a THREE PART BEING. (Triune). You are made in His image and in His likeness.

 

[MJFlores]

James 1:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also. The only reason your body is alive is because your spirit is in you. Your spirit is eternal your body is temporal. Your spirit is greater than your body.

Rom 8:16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: (It doesn't bear witness to your soul but to your spirit. Your spirit is greater than your soul.

John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. (Your spirit looks like the Spirit because it is born of God -- your soul is not born again nor is your body) Your spirit is greater than your soul and body.

Phil 3:3 For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh. We worship God in the spirit (they that worship Him will worship Him in spirit and in truth) -

1 Cor 14:2 For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.
14 For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful.
Your spirit speaks unto God but your soul has no understanding. Your spirit knows more than your soul.

II Cor 5:7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight Faith is spiritual, sight uses body and soul - your spirit is greater than your body and soul

Do you want more?


1 Thess. 5:23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

you are a THREE PART BEING. (Triune). You are made in His image and in His likeness.

After all of the verses you mentioned about the spirit, body and soul - you arrive at the conclusion that you are a Triune?
If that is the case, you mean to say you are a Trinity?

I think that is only a presumption and your personal logic.

Man is composed of spirit, body and soul
Therefore a Triune (and its definition)
Therefore a Trinity
And that is the image of God you say?

Then you are a god?
7.5 Billion people in the planet are gods?

That idea is Mormon concept.

 

[Katzpur]

Then you are a god?
7.5 Billion people in the planet are gods?
That idea is Mormon concept.

Wow. Talk about a misrepresentation of Mormon doctrine. Way to go.

 

[Kenny]

After all of the verses you mentioned about the spirit, body and soul - you arrive at the conclusion that you are a Triune?
If that is the case, you mean to say you are a Trinity?

I think that is only a presumption and your personal logic.

Man is composed of spirit, body and soul
Therefore a Triune (and its definition)
Therefore a Trinity
And that is the image of God you say?

Then you are a god?
7.5 Billion people in the planet are gods?

This is an answer to II Thessalonians 5:23 and the supportive scriptures?????

Going Crazy

 

[MJFlores]

This is an answer to II Thessalonians 5:23 and the supportive scriptures?????

Going Crazy

II Thessalonians 5:23?

2 Thessalonians Chapter 5 has only 20 verses.

Must be 1 Thes which you quoted

1 Thess. 5:23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

It is true that a human being has a spirit, soul and body. But is a human being (man) a triune which you said?

you are a THREE PART BEING. (Triune)

What is the definition of TRIUNE? From the dictionary:

If I am a 3 part being
Does it follow that everything is in 3 parts?

Does it mean God is in 3 parts?
1/3 Father, 1/3 Son and 1/3 HS?

Isn't it the Father is Spirit? (John 4:24)

Isn't it the HS is the seven spirits of God? (Revelation 5:6)

Isn't the Son is composed of spirit, soul and body being a man?
Jesus has a soul like a human being (Matthew 26:38)
Jesus has a spirit like a human being (Matthew 27:50)
And it is without doubt Jesus has a man's body (John 8:40)

Then you have the Father = 1
The HS = 7
The Son = 3
Add them together 1+7+3 = 11
No longer a triune, isn't it?

Now your premise became confusing.

Now if you are purporting that human beings, as created in the image of God could be gods or having the potential of being gods - the bible does not agree with that.

“Son of man, say to the ruler of Tyre, ‘This is what the Lord God says: “‘You are very proud! And you say, “I am a god! I sit on the seat of gods in the middle of the seas.” “‘But you are a man and not God! You only think you are a god. Ezekiel 28:2

As a human being, you could think of being god but God says you are a man and not God. Now going back to my Lord Jesus how does he introduced himself? Did he say he is:

• part god and part man?
• truly god and truly man?
• a member of the triune godhead?
• a member of the trinity?

Opinions, presumptions and assumptions could lead to strange doctrines and heresies. From the bible what did Jesus say?

John 8:39-45 New International Version (NIV)

“If you were Abraham’s children,” said Jesus, “then you would do what Abraham did. As it is, you are looking for a way to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God. Abraham did not do such things. You are doing the works of your own father.”

“We are not illegitimate children,” they protested. “The only Father we have is God himself.”

Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me. Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me!

Do you believe what Jesus said or what the Devil in Pergamum said? The choice is up to you.

 

[Kenny]

II Thessalonians 5:23?

2 Thessalonians Chapter 5 has only 20 verses.

Must be 1 Thes which you quoted



It is true that a human being has a spirit, soul and body. But is a human being (man) a triune which you said?



What is the definition of TRIUNE? From the dictionary:
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If I am a 3 part being


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So I take it that you are a three part being according to the definition that you gave?

 

[MJFlores]

So I take it that you are a three part being according to the definition that you gave?

Ye'r really holdin on to the devil doctrine, ain't ya?

Say you ain't. Say you believe in what Jesus said in the Bible:

John 8:39-45 New International Version (NIV)

“If you were Abraham’s children,” said Jesus, “then you would do what Abraham did. As it is, you are looking for a way to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God. Abraham did not do such things. You are doing the works of your own father.”

“We are not illegitimate children,” they protested. “The only Father we have is God himself.”

Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me. Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me!

Do you believe that Jesus:

• is a man who told the truth
• is a man who heard from God
• is a man who came from God
• is a man who was sent by God

Or you really can't understand what is written in John 8:39-45? Don't make the devil complete - read the bible not some unscriptural teaching made 225 years after the last apostle died.

 

[Kenny]

Ye'r really holdin on to the devil doctrine, ain't ya?.

The problem here is that you are always judging Jesus by the flesh while he is in the flesh. But before Jesus was manifested and "In the beginning, He was The Word, The Word was with God, The Word WAS God.

Thus Jesus was able to say, "Before Abraham was, I AM".

And again,

“What do you think about the Messiah? Whose son is he?”“The son of David,” they replied. He said to them, “How is it then that David, speaking by the Spirit, calls him ‘Lord’?"

 

[MJFlores]

The problem here is that you are always judging Jesus by the flesh while he is in the flesh. But before Jesus was manifested and "In the beginning, He was The Word, The Word was with God, The Word WAS God.

Thus Jesus was able to say, "Before Abraham was, I AM".

And again,

“What do you think about the Messiah? Whose son is he?”“The son of David,” they replied. He said to them, “How is it then that David, speaking by the Spirit, calls him ‘Lord’?"

How can you get past what Jesus said?

John 8:39-45 New International Version (NIV)

“If you were Abraham’s children,” said Jesus, “then you would do what Abraham did. As it is, you are looking for a way to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God. Abraham did not do such things. You are doing the works of your own father.”

“We are not illegitimate children,” they protested. “The only Father we have is God himself.”

Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me. Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me!

That is direct from my Lord Jesus Christ. Isn't that clear to you? That you need other verses like John 1:1,14; the I AM misunderstanding and what David said? How about what the Son of God said?

You shouldn't push an evil doctrine near Satan lives because it is a turkey. ( NORTH AMERICAN informal ; something that is extremely or completely unsuccessful, especially a play or movie.)

Let us go with your before Abraham I am stuff because this one was spoken by the Lord Jesus Christ.

“Very truly I tell you,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I am!” John 8:58

Then you jump to the conclusion - Jesus is God!
I do not see Jesus is God in what he said.

Who are the examples of people who lived before Abraham?

Luke 3:34-38 New International Version (NIV)

the son of Jacob,

the son of Isaac, the son of Abraham,

the son of Terah, the son of Nahor,

the son of Serug, the son of Reu,

the son of Peleg, the son of Eber,

the son of Shelah, the son of Cainan,

the son of Arphaxad, the son of Shem,

the son of Noah, the son of Lamech,

the son of Methuselah, the son of Enoch,

the son of Jared, the son of Mahalalel,

the son of Kenan, the son of Enosh,

the son of Seth, the son of Adam

Adam, the son of God.

Those are the named people who lived before Abraham was born. They could say the same thing "before Abraham was born, I am!" - if they could say that but they are long dead.

Are they gods too? Of course not!

Did Jesus lie? Of course not!

Then why did Jesus said that - before Abraham was born, I am!?

Genesis 3:11-15 New International Version (NIV)

And he said, “Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree that I commanded you not to eat from?”

The man said, “The woman you put here with me—she gave me some fruit from the tree, and I ate it.”

Then the Lord God said to the woman, “What is this you have done?”

The woman said, “The serpent deceived me, and I ate.”

So the Lord God said to the serpent, “Because you have done this,

“Cursed are you above all livestock
and all wild animals!
You will crawl on your belly
and you will eat dust
all the days of your life.
And I will put enmity
between you and the woman,
and between your offspring and hers;
he will crush your head,
and you will strike his heel.”

Hence, before Abraham was born, I am!

 

[Kenny]

How can you get past what Jesus said?

When will you stop judging by the flesh when The Word was in the flesh?

It's about as plain as night and day...

In the beginning was The Word, The Word was with God, The Word WAS God...

There is no other entity that can bring righteousness to man by taking on their sin and still remain solvent.

Phil 2:5 You must have the same attitude that Christ Jesus had.
6 Though he was God, he did not think of equality with God as something to cling to.
7 Instead, he gave up his divine privileges ; he took the humble position of a slave and was born as a human being. When he appeared in human form,
8 he humbled himself in obedience to God and died a criminal’s death on a cross.

You see, you are made in His likeness and in His image. And you are a triune being... a trinity... spirit, soul and body. Each part different yet part on one.

 

[MJFlores]

When will you stop judging by the flesh when The Word was in the flesh?

It's about as plain as night and day...

In the beginning was The Word, The Word was with God, The Word WAS God...

There is no other entity that can bring righteousness to man by taking on their sin and still remain solvent.

Phil 2:5 You must have the same attitude that Christ Jesus had.
6 Though he was God, he did not think of equality with God as something to cling to.
7 Instead, he gave up his divine privileges ; he took the humble position of a slave and was born as a human being. When he appeared in human form,
8 he humbled himself in obedience to God and died a criminal’s death on a cross.

You see, you are made in His likeness and in His image. And you are a triune being... a trinity... spirit, soul and body. Each part different yet part on one.

You still can't explain John 8:39-45 and instead ignored what my Lord Jesus Christ said? Typical for a Nicaean man-made doctrine believer. Before Abraham was born, I am - frequently used by people who really wanted to force the issue that Jesus is God but as you can see it was really a misunderstanding of what Jesus said.

Which would you believe Jesus Christ who is alive and in heaven or a bunch of Nicaean dead guys? Maybe you rather rest your salvation on them.

And you offer me this? I am marking the points in red and enlarging them a little bit.

Philippians 2:5-8 New International Version (NIV)

In your relationships with one another, have the same mindset as Christ Jesus:

Who, being in very nature God,
did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;
rather, he made himself nothing
by taking the very nature of a servant,
being made in human likeness.
And being found in appearance as a man,
he humbled himself
by becoming obedient to death—
even death on a cross!


Christ Jesus being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God - Who is the God mentioned here that Jesus did not consider equality with? [Is it the Trinity - Father, Son, HS] ? There is a God whom Jesus did not consider equality with hence Jesus is not God. And this verse demolishes the co-equal three way Trinity (turkey) doctrine. The Son is not equal with God. Otherwise apostle Paul would not have mentioned the verse if Jesus is God because he is already God but Jesus Christ is a man (John 8:40 which you are mum about it) and he is in the very nature God then what is this very nature God?

What is the very nature of God?

For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. Romans 1:20

Divine = Holy

And they were calling to one another: “Holy, holy, holy is the Lord Almighty; the whole earth is full of his glory.” Isaiah 6:3

Is Christ Jesus holy by himself?

2 Corinthians 5:21 New International Version (NIV)

God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.

God made him holy (had no sin) like God is holy hence "Christ Jesus being in very nature God"
If that is not the very nature God, then what is? Two of the natures of God mentioned in Romans 1:20 invisible qualities—his eternal power which the man Jesus did not have - he is visible and could not do anything by himself

John 5:30 New International Version (NIV)

By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me.

Which brings us to - ...something to be used to his own advantage; rather, he made himself nothing by taking the very nature of a servant,...

What did Jesus teach about a servant? He said:

Very truly I tell you, no servant is greater than his master, nor is a messenger greater than the one who sent him. John 13:16

Jesus is a servant to whom? Isn't God who is Jesus' master? And it was God who sent him?

Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me. John 8:42

Was Jesus lying? No. He emphatically said - I have come here from God. God sent me. Who is lying? The people who say he did not come here from God because he is God - nobody sent him because he sent himself - now that is the Nicaean made double dead guys doctrine.

And to the last verses:

being made in human likeness.
And being found in appearance as a man,
he humbled himself
by becoming obedient to death—
even death on a cross!

Who made him in human likeness? Wasn't it God? Note the words "being made in human likeness" Did Jesus did it or God made him in human likeness? Next, And being found in appearance as a man, which I kept on posting that Jesus is a man and he said it. John 8:40

John 8:40,45

As it is, you are looking for a way to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God. Abraham did not do such things. Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me!

he humbled himself by becoming obedient to death— even death on a cross!

The Lord Jesus Christ humbled himself - to whom? By becoming obedient - to whom? To God.

Philippians 2:5-8 was written by Apostle Paul and he knew Jesus was obedient even death on a cross! And Paul also knew who is Jesus and who is God. Did God die on the cross? Can God even be killed?

One verse, 3 translations of the Bible just for clarity, you can check the KJV it would be the same

1 Timothy 1:17 Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)

Honor and glory to the King who rules forever. He cannot be destroyed and cannot be seen. Honor and glory forever and ever to the only God. Amen.

1 Timothy 1:17Expanded Bible (EXB)

To the ·King who rules forever [eternal King; L King of the ages], ·who will never die [immortal; incorruptible], ·who cannot be seen [invisible], the only God, be honor and glory forever and ever. Amen.

1 Timothy 1:17International Children’s Bible (ICB)

Honor and glory to the King that rules forever! He cannot be destroyed and cannot be seen. Honor and glory forever and ever to the only God. Amen.

The only God cannot be seen and who will never die.
The above are two qualities Jesus did not possess
The Lord Jesus was seen by people and he died on the cross.

 

[Kenny]

You still can't explain John 8:39-45 and instead ignored what my Lord Jesus Christ said?

Not at all. You still are interpreting in the flesh when The Word, who WAS God, came in the flesh.

What you did is ignore when David spoke of his descendent as His Lord. (Designated as God)

Typical for a Nicaean man-made doctrine believer. Before Abraham was born, I am - frequently used by people who really wanted to force the issue that Jesus is God but as you can see it was really a misunderstanding of what Jesus said.

No... people usually try to force it to say something else other than what he said:

the I AM is very poignant.

Philippians 2:5-8 New International Version (NIV)

Christ Jesus being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God SOMETHING TO BE USED TO HIS ADVANTAGE - Who is the God mentioned here that Jesus did not consider equality with?

Did you just miss it? He considered himself IN EQUALITY WITH GOD SOMETHING TO BE USED. He was equal with the Father because The Word WAS God!

2 Corinthians 5:21 KJV

God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God .

God made him holy (had no sin) like God is holy hence "Christ Jesus being in very nature God"

Did you just add to the scripture what isn't there?

God didn't make Him holy... he made him SIN. Because He was already holy.

Great movie, wasn't it?

Rev 22:8 And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things. 9 Then saith he unto me,See thou do it not: for I am thy fellow servant, and of thybrethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.

Worship = proskuneo - don't worship angels, just worship God.

Luke 4:8 And Jesus answered and said unto him,Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

Matt 8:2 And, behold, there came a leper and worshipped him, saying, Lord, if thou wilt, thou canst make me clean.

Apparently Jesus had no problem being worshipped. Why? Because "The Word WAS God".

 

[MJFlores]

Not at all. You still are interpreting in the flesh when The Word, who WAS God, came in the flesh.

So you mean when Jesus was in the flesh, he was thinking and speaking by the flesh is that what you are driving at? He had a different mindset? You are making Jesus a liar???

So from the Book of Matthew to the Book of John - Jesus is a Man, flesh (not equal with God) but when he was taken up he was God? Is that your contention?

Well then from the Book of Acts to the Book of Revelations - Jesus was already taken up to heaven. I'm sure your would agree, unless you really want to stick with the doctrines made by a bunch of Nicene twice dead bishops of Satan.

Let us hear it from the apostles then at the time Jesus is already in heaven. Is he already or resumed his equality with the Father?


Acts 2:33

Exalted to the right hand of God, he has received from the Father the promised Holy Spirit and has poured out what you now see and hear.


Acts 7:55

But Stephen, full of the Holy Spirit, looked up to heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God.



Acts 7:56

“Look,” he said, “I see heaven open and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God.”


Romans 8:34

Who then is the one who condemns? No one. Christ Jesus who died—more than that, who was raised to life—is at the right hand of God and is also interceding for us.


Colossians 3:1

Since, then, you have been raised with Christ, set your hearts on things above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God.


Hebrews 1:3

The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven.


Hebrews 10:12

But when this priest had offered for all time one sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God,


Hebrews 12:2

fixing our eyes on Jesus, the pioneer and perfecter of faith. For the joy set before him he endured the cross, scorning its shame, and sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.

 

[Kenny]

So you mean when Jesus was in the flesh, he was thinking and speaking by the flesh is that what you are driving at? He had a different mindset? You are making Jesus a liar???

LOL Oh noo... I was saying that you are looking at this with your natural thinking when you are trying to compare Jesus when he came and was manifested in the flesh as when he was The Word. Spiritual things are spiritually discerned

When you quit trying to "rationalize" and simply take it for what it says, "And The Word WAS God" and was manifested in the flesh and they did not recognize who he was, it will all start to make sense.

After all, YOU are made in His image and in His likeness - a three part being (spirit, soul and body) and yet still one you.

Really simple, if you think about it.

It takes you LOOOOOONG pages to try to say something when, with God, He can say it in one sentence "In the beginning was The Word, The Word was with God, The Word WAS God.

so simple.

 

[MJFlores]

God didn't make Him holy... he made him SIN. Because He was already holy.

How is the fish caught in his mouth.

2 Corinthians 5:21 KJV

God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God .

2 Cor was written by Paul at the time Jesus was taken up in heaven. You said "God didn't make him holy" Who is the God mentioned here? The trinity? The F,S, HS made S who had no sin to be sin for us so that we might become the righteousness of F,S,HS?

Isn't that the teaching of someone who came from Nicea near where the devil lives - so confusing isn't it?

Now this is more clear:

1 Corinthians 8:6 New International Version (NIV)

yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.

Same Paul who wrote Corinthians. Paul said yet for us there is but one God, the Father

Where is the HS and the S? They are not gods, there is no Trinity - there never was and never will be. It only exist in people's twisting of the Bible. From the Nicaean dead bishops who created the Trinity doctrine in 325 A.D. - more than 200 years after the death of the last apostle of Christ! The Bible tells of one God and that is the Father. The bible does not have the word Trinity nor does it speak about any Trinity.

Which will you believe? The Bible or some dead Nicaean Bishops who voted to make the S and HS - god, more than 200 years after John died?

I won't trust any dead guy. My trust is on the man who is in heaven, Jesus Christ.

For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus, 1 Timothy 2:5

 

[Kenny]

How is the fish caught in his mouth.

2 Corinthians 5:21 KJV

God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God IN HIM .

2 Cor was written by Paul at the time Jesus was taken up in heaven. You said "God didn't make him holy" Who is the God mentioned here? The trinity? The F,S, HS made S who had no sin to be sin for us so that we might become the righteousness of F,S,HS?

You made absolutely no sense. (respectfully)

God made Him (Jesus) who had no sin (he is holy) to be sin.

God made US holy through the righteousness of God in HIM (Jesus) for Jesus is made unto us righteousness (1 Cor 1:30)

After all... The Word WAS God.

 

[Kenny]

PS

Please note your reference

yet for us there is but one God, the Father,

from whom all things came and for whom we live

; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ,

through whom all things came and through whom we live.

Both are God designations (in red)

 

[MJFlores]

After all, YOU are made in His image and in His likeness - a three part being (spirit, soul and body) and yet still one you.

Man is 3 part
Therefore God is 3 part
Hence the Trinity

Am I getting your allegory right?
I think I have answered that days ago.
Let us recompute.

The Father - 1 part
The Son - wait he is 3 parts being a man (body, soul and spirit) Matthew 26:12 - body, Matthew 26:38 -soul and Luke 23:46 - spirit
The HS - wait 7 parts Revelation 3:1
Trinity is 11 parts - no longer a trinity isn't it? Undecimity.

Therefore your allegory is just a misunderstanding and misapplication. Like those of the dead bishops of Nicea near Satan's throne.

Christ prayed to God. Why did he do it if he were God in the first place? The author of Hebrews reported that "during the days of Jesus life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with loud cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his submission" (Heb. 5:7).

To a bright mind, would it be logical to believe at this point that the God-Man on earth would be seeking the help of someone? If the Son were truly God, his fervent prayer in Gethsemane would only be a show and not a real manifestation of his absolute dependence on God which is the motivation behind his prayer and anybody else who would pray to God. Does it not show a mockery of God and an outlandish hypocrisy on the part of Christ if he were God? He even asked him, "Father, save me from this hour" (John 12:27). Even when he was dying on the cross, he showed his faith in God by calling in a loud voice, "Father, into your hands I commit my spirit" (Luke 23:46).

 

[MJFlores]

PS

Please note your reference

yet for us there is but one God, the Father,

from whom all things came and for whom we live

; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ,

through whom all things came and through whom we live.

Both are God designations (in red)

Where is the HS?

Assuming your Trinity doctrine made in Turkey refers to that verse - the HS is missing.

But there is no Trinity - it is just a twisted tale of the Devil.

there is but one God, the Father,

The Lord Jesus Christ is not God and not the Father, he is the Son.

And the HS is not God, not even mentioned in the verse.

 

[Kenny]

Man is 3 part
Therefore God is 3 part
Hence the Trinity

No... God is three parts, Father, The Word and His Holy Spirit

Therefore, man is made in His image and likeness (and not the opposite)

You are getting close.