If we ask God for Proof we must be content with one proof.

[9-10ths_Penguin]

The way God talks to us is not by words but in answer to what we ask in prayer from the heart.

Translation: "I find my intuition to be convincing."

Many of our prayers we may think go unanswered, but we are not able to see the bigger picture, not realising if we ask for things like peace, that God is answering that prayer, in the only way humanity will choose peace.

Translation: "God is indistinguishable from a non-existent god by every empirical test imaginable, but my belief system includes excuses for this."

 

[TransmutingSoul]

If you think God is "100% no doubt proven" for you, why the coy games?

Is there anything else - anything at all - that you think is "100% proven" but that other people can't be convinced of unless they approach the issue with a specific mindset?

The OP is for those that may want proof, they have the opportunity to ask a proof from God.

It maybe the conversation is how does God answer?

Regards Tony

 

[F1fan]

No, God does not talk to anyone except the Messengers.

Written as if it’s a fact. But it isn’t.

See how your habit is so hard for you to avoid?

Enough evidence that Baha'is are amongst the most peaceful and loving people on this planet.

Except for the anti gay bigotry. That’s unacceptable.

Baha'is care enough to come to RF to be continually ridiculed for trying g to show the world peace is not only possible, it is inevitable and God has shown that to our hearts.

No other human can show us that.

Regards Tony

You’re idealistic and have no realistic solutions. The dogma doesn’t explain how to reach past flaws in the human psyche that make poor decisions. Too many are tempted to follow ideology and even follow authoritarian leaders. I’ve asked before how you solve that and you have no answer.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

The OP is for those that may want proof, they have the opportunity to ask a proof from God.

Proof of something - actual proof - doesn't depend on wanting it.

"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." - Philip K. Dick

 

[F1fan]

The OP is for those that may want proof, they have the opportunity to ask a proof from God.

It maybe the conversation is how does God answer?

Regards Tony

You keep making excuses to not honor and respond to posts you don’t like. Not a good look for someone who thinks they are spiritual.

 

[Audie]

Maybe you have never taken the opportunity to ask?

Mostly people ask genuinely, only when life has gotten so bad, that it is they they will cry from the heart.

Regards Tony

That's the last time for genuine as any
psychologist will tell you.

And that " from the heart" has no real meaning.

 

[Audie]

Proof of something - actual proof - doesn't depend on wanting it.

"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." - Philip K. Dick

" Wanting it" is key to self deception.
As any adult ought to know.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

You keep making excuses to not honor and respond to posts you don’t like. Not a good look for someone who thinks they are spiritual.

I keep wondering whether @TransmutingSoul thinks they're giving fair and reasonable replies to the questions they're asked.

Either way, it's not a good look.

 

[Kathryn]

Maybe you have never taken the opportunity to ask?

Mostly people ask genuinely, only when life has gotten so bad, that it is they they will cry from the heart.

Regards Tony

Hey, you know what I remember very vividly about my experience with my daughter? Two things. One, I remember falling asleep by her bedside, because I couldn't bear to leave her, and two, I remember sitting on the corner of my washer (to keep it steady) and I remember screaming at God and waving my fist in the air. But at least I was still talking with him, right?

 

[Trailblazer]

Written as if it’s a fact. But it isn’t.

See how your habit is so hard for you to avoid?

There is no "as if it's a fact." How it sounds to you is just how it sounds to you.

I have made it abundantly clear that it is not a fact that Gods exists or that there were ever any messengers of God or that Baha'u'llah was a messenger of God. None of those are facts because none of those can ever be proven.

 

[TransmutingSoul]

Translation: "I find my intuition to be convincing."

Translation: "God is indistinguishable from a non-existent god by every empirical test imaginable, but my belief system includes excuses for this."

Luckily there is way of knowing the difference.

It may be the question, or proof you would like to ask for, who knows?

Regards Tony

 

[Kathryn]

One day, critical thinkers and fact finders will find themselves and their intellect so ridiculous.

 

[Trailblazer]

One day, critical thinkers and fact finders will find themselves and their intellect so ridiculous.

Yes, the day they die.

 

[Kathryn]

Yes, the day they die.

Probably so, who knows.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Luckily there is way of knowing the difference.

Of knowing the difference between your own intuition and "God talking to us"? Please share. I'm all ears.

It may be the question, or proof you would like to ask for, who knows?

Regards Tony

I'm not so much interested in proof of God as I am in figuring out if you even have a coherent position.

 

[TransmutingSoul]

Hey, you know what I remember very vividly about my experience with my daughter? Two things. One, I remember falling asleep by her bedside, because I couldn't bear to leave her, and two, I remember sitting on the corner of my washer (to keep it steady) and I remember screaming at God and waving my fist in the air. But at least I was still talking with him, right?

Yes indeed! I have a friend that also crys out in frustration at God on many occasions, he has some great stories.

Look up Bogan

One day life was not going well for my friend he was driving up a hill in the town he lives, at the top of the hill is a sharp 90deg corner to the right, as he is getting nearer to the corner he was contemplating events and yelled out to God "God what the heck are you doing with me?" Just as that parted from his lips a bogans landrover came around that corner and as he focused on it he saw it had a big sign placed on the roof, which said, "There is Always a Reason"!

Ha ha, we uses that all the time now when things are getting rough. Later on life gave more productive answer's.

Regards Tony

 

[TransmutingSoul]

God can physically show up to a crowd, as well as front of a camera

Showing up in a crowd was done with all the Messengers, in front of a Camera has been done by one, after all it is new technology.

then he can shoot fireballs out of his fingertips and lightning out of his eyes.

What purpose would that serve, other than the crowd would think he is a good magician.

Regards Tony

 

[Trailblazer]

You believe you have knowledge of God. That ISN'T having knowledge of God.

It is, if what I believe is true.

You wrote sentences saying what God wants.

I wrote sentences saying what I believe God wants, according to my scriptures.

Again, belief that something is tue INS'T knowing it is true.

It is knowing, when we know our belief is true.

When you write in a manner that is a declarative sentence but it isn't true it's deceptive.

Just because it sounds declarative to you that doesn't mean I am declaring it is true.

You wrote "No, you do not have that wrong. Free will is why God doesn't fix the world as we experience it," Notice you are correcting me by informing me something about God. It isn't factual. We can discuss religious dogmas with guesses, but not with facts.

There is nothing factual about God. I suggest you get used to it.

 

[TransmutingSoul]

Of knowing the difference between your own intuition and "God talking to us"? Please share. I'm all ears.

Maybe that is the proof you can ask of God.

I see logic and reasoning are required.

Regards Tony

 

[F1fan]

There is no "as if it's a fact." How it sounds to you is just how it sounds to you.

Languages have rules. You clearly violate the rules and must do so carelessly.

I have made it abundantly clear that it is not a fact that Gods exists or that there were ever any messengers of God or that Baha'u'llah was a messenger of God. None of those are facts because none of those can ever be proven.

Saying this after you’re called out doesn’t justify your grammar errors.