if your girlfriend/wife contacts her ex-boyfriends, and inverse

[Marisa]

sorry i mean she touch their feet by her hand as respect

Respect does not equate to obedience, which is what you are missing. I respect almost every human being on the planet, yet I am obedient to none of them.

 

[Godobeyer]

Respect does not equate to obedience, which is what you are missing. I respect almost every human being on the planet, yet I am obedient to none of them.

that's Western view , as that site tells

Its obviously that hinduism called wife to be obedient her husband and his elders .

if we suppose that you married a indian man

the curious question , would you touch the feet of your husband or his parents everytime as a kind of respect ?

 

[Godobeyer]

Oh, you meant flirting. Well that depends on how your spouse responds to it. A person could have valid cause for jealousy if their spouse behaves inappropriately. For example:

(male) Hey babe! You're looking sweet.
(your spouse) Get lost, jerk!
{No reason for jealousy.}

(male) Hey babe! You're looking sweet.
(your spouse) You're a fine looking stud. Let's get naked and get it on.
{Reason for jealousy.}

So, it depends.

I am talking about offending flirting .

let's suppose that EX of your wife, tells your wife , " you looking so sweet" , what would be your reaction ? afront of you .

let's suppose that EX of your wife , tells your wife : " we had very sweet memories ,my ex-baby " . afront of you .

 

[Marisa]

the curious question , would you touch the feet of your husband or his parents everytime as a kind of respect ?

Nope. But that doesn't mean I don't respect them, when I feel they have earned my respect.

There is a big difference between respect and obedience. They simply aren't the same thing. But so long as you consider them to be the same thing, you won't be able to consider my perspective.

 

[Godobeyer]

Nope. But that doesn't mean I don't respect them, when I feel they have earned my respect.

Why not

i mean , that not your type of respect , or it's about extra respect (humilation), or looks like obedient ?

If your husband demand to touch their his feet for ONCE, as try ?

 

[Akivah]

I am talking about offending flirting .

let's suppose that EX of your wife, tells your wife , " you looking so sweet" , what would be your reaction ? afront of you .

let's suppose that EX of your wife , tells your wife : " we had very sweet memories ,my ex-baby " . afront of you .

Comments like these would not cause me to be instantly jealous of my wife. These actions weren't caused by my wife, they were done by the EX. My initial reaction would be puzzlement or wondering if the guy was drunk. But my wife's reactions to these comments would be far more important to me. If my wife expressed the same puzzlement as me, we would just move away from the EX. But If my wife concurred with the EX and offered similar sentiments back, then I'd get upset.

 

[Underhill]

There are just too many variables to answer the question. Relationships are way too complicated to make blanket statements about.

 

[Kirran]

@Godobeyer - if my father tells me to go and feed the chickens and I say 'Sorry, I'm busy right now' then that doesn't mean I don't respect him, but it does mean I am not obeying him.

Likewise, if a boss at work who I don't like and who I don't have respect for tells me to clean the office floor, I'll do it. But just because I am obeying them doesn't mean I respect them.

I can disrespect someone and obey them, and I can respect someone but not obey them. Obedience and respect are different things.

EDIT: Also, please don't go round telling people what Hinduism teaches. I don't go round saying that Islam encourages worship of cats. Please don't misrepresent other beliefs. It's very disrespectful.

 

[Godobeyer]

Why not

i mean , that not your type of respect , or it's about extra respect (humilation), or looks like obedient ?

If your husband demand to touch their his feet for ONCE, as try ?

Marisa Member
I am waiting your answser to this

 

[Kirran]

While of course we should wait for Marisa to answer, it's your use of terms like 'demand' which makes your ideas so objectionable.

 

[Godobeyer]

@Godobeyer - if my father tells me to go and feed the chickens and I say 'Sorry, I'm busy right now' then that doesn't mean I don't respect him, but it does mean I am not obeying him.

Likewise, if a boss at work who I don't like and who I don't have respect for tells me to clean the office floor, I'll do it. But just because I am obeying them doesn't mean I respect them.

I can disrespect someone and obey them, and I can respect someone but not obey them. Obedience and respect are different things.

EDIT: Also, please don't go round telling people what Hinduism teaches. I don't go round saying that Islam encourages worship of cats. Please don't misrepresent other beliefs. It's very disrespectful.

I did not tells Hinduism teaches worship cats , and i did not lie about hinduism teachs ok ?

sorry , you need correct me if i am wrong , because I feel it's HIGH degree of hypocrisy that it's used in this thread , when you critic a way of life (obedient wife) ,and you actualy believe in it (your beliefs called wife to obey her husband) , since you hinduism called the wife to considere her husband as God ?!!

please check this : #114

then where I disrespect Hinduism beliefs or Islam when i suppose innocent question , when i asked a Western woman , if she agree that her husband (had other religion) tradition or not , and why not ?

 

[Godobeyer]

While of course we should wait for Marisa to answer, it's your use of terms like 'demand' which makes your ideas so objectionable.

this maybe not necessary to poke .

that's between me and Marisa , she demand me before to answser to her reply . and i did .

 

[Marisa]

Marisa Member
I am waiting your answser to this

Asked, and answered.

 

[Godobeyer]

Asked, and answered.

Next time, if there is "next" , this is my answser too.

 

[Kirran]

I did not tells Hinduism teaches worship cats , and i did not lie about hinduism teachs ok ?

sorry , you need correct me if i am wrong , because I feel it's HIGH degree of hypocrisy that it's used in this thread , when you critic a way of life (obedient wife) ,and you actualy believe in it (your beliefs called wife to obey her husband) , since you hinduism called the wife to considere her husband as God ?!!

please check this : #114

then where I disrespect Hinduism beliefs or Islam when i suppose innocent question , when i asked a Western woman , if she agree that her husband (had other religion) tradition or not , and why not ?

Cats thing was just a random thing. Wasn't saying you said it about Hinduism.

The disrespect is you telling a Hindu what Hinduism teaches when that Hindu actually disagrees with you.

The questioning was fine, no worries. It was saying:

Its obviously that hinduism called wife to be obedient her husband and his elders .

When this is in fact an Indian cultural matter, not some intrinsic Hindu teaching (as if such athing exists).

This would be like me saying that female circumcision is taught by Islam because it is practiced in the name of Islam by so many people, when in fact it is cultural.

 

[Kirran]

this maybe not necessary to poke .

that's between me and Marisa , she demand me before to answser to her reply . and i did .

What I meant was 'if your husband demand' - the use of the term demand implies authoritarianism.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

That's the thing that @Godobeyer seems to be missing. That when you make your romantic/sexual reactions someone else's responsibility, as in suggesting that someone's clothing can reasonably be considered harassment, then it removes the individual's personal responsibility for their own actions. They can say "I would not have harassed that woman had she been properly clothed" and not realize they are failing to take responsibility for their own actions and engaging in victim blaming.

My wife once made a comment to me about 'not trusting other women' around me. I kinda scoffed, and she kinda told me I didn't know what women are like (which is entirely true...) but then I just asked her if she trusted me. 'Of course!' Then it doesn't matter.

Putting myself in her shoes, if I saw a bloke hitting on her, and not taking no for an answer, I'd probably want to knock his teeth in, but I have zero fear of her sleeping around, whether I'm there or not. And zero ability to prevent her if I did have such a fear.

It's somewhat akin to flying in a plane. I always assume it'll get to the other end, but I might as well enjoy the ride regardless, 'cos there is basically bugger all I can do about it.

 

[Godobeyer]

Cats thing was just a random thing. Wasn't saying you said it about Hinduism.

The disrespect is you telling a Hindu what Hinduism teaches when that Hindu actually disagrees with you.

The questioning was fine, no worries. It was saying:



When this is in fact an Indian cultural matter, not some intrinsic Hindu teaching (as if such athing exists).

.

I am little confused , lets back to

is not this site is a religous hinduism ?

http://www.hinduism.co.za/women.htm

and this scripture and many others , as culture teaching or religious teaching ?
"For a wife during her life-time, the husband is both god and lord alike"

the indians believe/accept in that scripture , as culture or as religious ?
EDITED TYPO errors:
final question
did you reject or accept that scripture ?

you indeed right about :

This would be like me saying that female circumcision is taught by Islam because it is practiced in the name of Islam by so many people, when in fact it is cultural

 

[Kirran]

I am little confused , lets back to

is not this site is a religous hinduism ?

http://www.hinduism.co.za/women.htm

and this scripture and many others , as culture teaching or religious teaching ?
"For a wife during her life-time, the husband is both god and lord alike"

the indians believe/accept in that scripture , as culture or as religious ?

final answser
did you reject to accept that scripture ?


you indeed right about

The lines between culture and religion in India are blurred to nothingness.

Yes, that site is about Hindu tradition. The Mahabharata isn't really a scripture, it's more mythological moral stories.

'The Indians' do all sorts of things.

I'll give a fuller explanation of my reasoning for not believing what some would say is a Hindu tradition when I get home.

 

[Godobeyer]

The lines between culture and religion in India are blurred to nothingness.

Yes, that site is about Hindu tradition. The Mahabharata isn't really a scripture, it's more mythological moral stories.

'The Indians' do all sorts of things.

I'll give a fuller explanation of my reasoning for not believing what some would say is a Hindu tradition when I get home.

Why it's looks like sacred teaching , more than mythological moral stories .

Is not could be religion is could be part of commun culture . i mean this mmythological is sacred .

so this that is about hinduism culture or hinduism as religion ?

does all hindus agree with you that this is culture not beliefs/teaching ?