sooda
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Israel has been getting US Aid since 1948 for a very small population. Look at Haiti.. how much aid do we give them and their population is larger than Israel.
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Illegals. Where do we draw a line on the law or should we?
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Israel has been getting US Aid since 1948 for a very small population. Look at Haiti.. how much aid do we give them and their population is larger than Israel.
sooda
Veteran Member
Its simple.. Fine the employers who hire them. BTW.. there are 67,000 illegal Israelis and 68,000 illegal Iranians in the US.
We Never Know
No Slack
I've read them. Back to point where you quoted its only a misdemeanor. Possession of pot, possession of meth, DWI, stealing under $750, to name a few are also a misdemeanor. Should we over look those as well since they are only "misdemeanor's"?
SugarOcean
¡pɹᴉǝM ʎɐʇS
That can be said of our veterans as well. Which is a unforgivable shame our lawmakers who enable illegals and support them will have to live with.
We Never Know
No Slack
Exactly. On a smaller level if there was a town that had a store that gave away free food, everyone would flock to that store as long as the food was free.
Cut it off and they quit flocking there.
sooda
Veteran Member
How many foreigners have been sent to prison for being in the US illegally?
sooda
Veteran Member
That's bassackwards... Fine the employers $2,000 a day for each illegal they employ.
We Never Know
No Slack
I agree. Fine the people that are enticing them to come here. Let's start with our government and all the free things it offers.
We Never Know
No Slack
I ask again, possession of pot, possession of meth, a DWI, stealing under $750, to name a few are also only a misdemeanor. Should we overlook those as well since they are only "misdemeanor's"?
Curious George
Veteran Member
What free things exactly do you think illegals are getting?
Epic Beard Man
Bearded Philosopher
I know many of you dislike CNN but I thought this video was interesting and pertinent to the current discussion:
80s fashion girl
Member
Just because someone doesn't answer all of a quoted post or a quoted post at all doesn't mean they're afraid of it; you know that, or are they?
Shad
Veteran Member
Shad
Veteran Member
Israel is an ally. Haiti isn't. You are conflating foreign policy with humanitarian aid. Israel is a functional nation-state while Haiti isn't. Haiti has had billions in humanitarian aid. The problems goes deeper than money. For example deforestation which it's own population did.
Shad
Veteran Member
Foreign aid to Israel is cronyism. A lot of the money is marked for US products only. So the US is giving Israel money (US tax dollars) to buy US products. It does not need any aid. It is a functional nation-state that can support itself.
Epic Beard Man
Bearded Philosopher
Well in the video the man said he tried to get Americans to do the work. What happens when Americans dont want to do the work?
We Never Know
No Slack
For the wages offered.
That isn't the same as won't.
If I don't want to pay what the gas station is charging for gas, that doesn't mean "nobody will sell me gas", or "there's a shortage of gasoline".
Same with labor, if people won't do the hot dirty work of gathering produce for $9/hr it doesn't mean they won't. It means farmers don't want to pay what it's worth. Maybe it's $20-25, I don't know. But for some reason, the free market principles that govern the costs of consumer goods go out the window when the commodity in question is labor.
What's with that?
Tom
Curious George
Veteran Member
So they can buy hunting and fishing licenses, their kids can go to school, and in the event of an emergency we will give life stabilizing care.
That really isn't that much. Why would you object to any one of those?
We Never Know
No Slack
Maybe you should read the whole article, not just part of it.
"Welfare. Whether illegal aliens can obtain state benefits is not clear-cut. The short answer appears to be that they are not legally entitled to most benefits, but do in fact receive them.
A fair interpretation of the federal statute and state regulation must result in the conclusion that illegal aliens should not receive any form of state public assistance. However, illegal aliens do, in fact, receive state public benefits. That's because the burden of determining lawful status in the U.S. is on the shoulders of county social services employees who have neither the legal jurisdiction nor the practical ability to determine one's immigration status. Only an immigration official or federal worker whom the Secretary of Homeland Security has authorized may determine the immigration status of a person in the country.
Typically, any proof an illegal alien provides as evidence of legal status, regardless of its fraudulent nature, will satisfy social services agencies that determine the person's benefit eligibility because an intake clerk simply cannot make the determination that someone is an illegal alien. Therefore, the law is usually overlooked and illegal aliens manage to qualify for state and local benefits.