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I'm Not a Tolerant Person

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
Rev 13--a 7 headed beast with 10 horns--a 2 horned beast--In Daniel there were 4 world powers mentioned all given the mark of a beast-Then #5-the roman empire- #6 the british empire- thelast= the two horned beast=#7-- a horn = a kingdom, Thus 10 kingdoms a place where kingdoms( govts) gather. a 2horned beast 2 kingdoms working together.
It says--The 2 horn beast excercises all authority of the 7 headed beast-= Resolutions.
Cannot buy or sell unless receiving the mark of the beast- sanctions( could be a chip they will implant as well in the near future)
Makes fire come down out of the heavens-Bombs-missiles
2 horned beast= eagle-lion.

It goes on and says of the 7 headed beast--The one that was( league of nations) is not( death stroke, done away with after ww2-and yet is( death stroke got healed-the united nations.

Mexico has sent a statue that is outside the UN now, Rev 13:2= perfect description of it. In it inscription-Peace and security--1 Thess 5:3--Whenever they are saying-peace and security sudden destruction will be upon them.

It says many will worship the image of the beast-means put there trust in. Peace and security will be that image. It looks and sounds good to the mortal heart, but men cannot get us out of this mess, men are causing it. Gods kingdom is the ONLY remaining hope.

Well, I'm sure this all makes sense to you.

From what I can see, it is a pretty weak attempt to force ancient stories to talk about the modern world. As such, it shows more about those making the connections than it does about the real world.
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
Again, you have problem with causal chains which undermines your message. The melting ice caps don't cause flooding nor storms. Increase in temperature accelerate the cycle of water which causes flooding in some areas, droughts in others and more active storm systems. This is cause by greenhouse gases and yes indeed it's a problem that isn't fixed, but that is possible to fix. While still too high, emission of greenhouse gases have been reduced in many countries. Please learn a little bit more about what you are doom preaching about before doom preaching.


Scientists say otherwise. They say from all the melting more liquid is in the clouds making them heavier and moving slower and thats why so many floods are occurring all over the earth. You will see year after year is getting worse. Covid is the beginning. Revelation has promised many plagues will come. We are at the end of these last days.
Fixing the problems would destroy the economies, they cant have that. The greed in their hearts wont allow it.
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
Actually, according to FBI data, that is simply wrong. Murders are *down*. Looting is less common. The only difference is that there is more publication of such things.

Violent crime was up in 2021 for the first time in 4 years. Compared to 50 years ago, it is far less.


We shall see.
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
Well, I'm sure this all makes sense to you.

From what I can see, it is a pretty weak attempt to force ancient stories to talk about the modern world. As such, it shows more about those making the connections than it does about the real world.


No other teachers on earth have a clue what Rev 13 is. I just explained it in a few simple words that fit perfect. But the darkness doesnt allow light to enter.
 

Windwalker

Veteran Member
Premium Member
There is no turning back from this now. You actually think men can get us out of this mess? Men are causing it. In their wickedness, For the allmighty $$$, they have polluted our air, water and land, thus our food as well. Put a huge hole in the ozone layer causing all this havoc weather ruining peoples lives every day of the week. They are selling us cancer and they know it. One cannot have sex without a condom without risking aids or the such. Cannot go outside without a mask. It will continue to get worse. The us govt just handed trillions they stole from future generation who had no representation in those stimulus packages to the allready ultra rich, Threw a few billion at the poor they ended up with that to. and are so greedy inflation is booming because they never get enough. The streets are filling up with the homeless and will get worse. Murders like never before in every city, looting like never before in every city. I live in a town about 50,000 people, I know a man working at home depot, looters come in and fill carts and run out the door. The manager says do nothing, it costs more to prosecute them than what they take. This world is sick in the heart. The bible says--And the sea( mankind became agitated= protests all over the world and things like the above. Men will become faint out of fear not knowing the way out. Gods kingdom is the only remaining hope, it is knocking on the door.
Then do something to change it now, rather than praying for the end to come.
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
Then do something to change it now, rather than praying for the end to come.


I have been sharing bible truths to try and help my fellow man--They reject it. Jesus told us to pray for Gods kingdom to come. I will listen to him. The bible says the coming of the kingdom is good news.
 

DNB

Christian
You just need to apply this to the right person. Yourself. We project onto others what we know is true about ourselves, but refuse to acknowledge.
Not sure what yo9u're talking about? You are unable to judge correctly?
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
Israel being evil...not the singular not wicked nation you claimed.


They fell over and over in the OT. they were apostocised before Jesus came. They sent Gods son to his death out of hatred, God cut them off-Matthew 23:38, In 39 he left door open to them. They have outright refused to do that for over 1950 years. Its their fault not Gods. What mercy and love to display for them after what they did to his son. its them who are at fault.
 

DNB

Christian
That's not what a secular humanist would do, as you can tell from this thread. But then, those are the people who actually take the Golden Rule to heart. No tossing, no name-calling, no reprimanding - just tolerance. As I said, these people are the gold standard for ethics for me.
No, Jesus was.
 

DNB

Christian
I realize you're directing your questions to another person, but I would like to chime in and say no, God or Jesus aren't good enough or intriguing enough for me anymore. As a matter of fact, I wasted thirty-one years of my life struggling to reconcile my belief in a loving heavenly father with my reality of suffering severe abuse while I was growing up. Despite my frantic childhood prayers to this "heavenly father" to save me, I still suffered relentless abuse, neglect, and bullying throughout my childhood and adolescence.

As a teenager, I was still clinging to my belief in a loving, merciful God, despite the fact that I couldn't reconcile that belief with the abuse I suffered, but I began to think about the rest of the world during this time. I thought about the reality of a world assiduously rampant with death, disease, natural disasters, cold-blooded murder, rape, poverty, starvation, pestilence, sexual deviance, and corruption. As an adult, I added the Holocaust and pedophiles to my list, and it included Catholic priests. These pedophile priests have been allowed to get away with raping and molesting children for hundreds of years, and this sickness has been covered up by the Catholic Church for hundreds of years. Sexual abuse, physical abuse, psychological abuse and spiritual abuse is rampant in the Christian Church, and yet many Christians judge unbelievers for their sins. Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

I want to be perfectly clear about my objective for writing what I've shared thus far in my post. DNB, I want to make sure you know that I'm not attempting to attack you and call you out. My post isn't intended as a personal attack against you. I'm replying to your post because I want to share my story and explain why I've rejected God in my life, and why I'm not a Christian anymore.

I've been in a "spiritual limbo" for more than a year, and I'm unable to decide if I believe that God exists or not. If God doesn't exist, then evolution is true, humanity has always been alone in the universe, and terrible things happen that I can't explain. If the God depicted in the Bible does exist, then I can only see him as a sadistic barbaric tyrannical monster, and I reject any notion that he is a loving, merciful heavenly father. I don't have this contemptuous thought about God without reason, either. I've explained one of my reasons by sharing my horrific past of abuse. Furthermore, I've also explained my other reasons, as well. If you'd like to know what these reasons are, then you can find out by clicking here and reading one of my previous posts on the subject.

Isaiah 45:7 (KJV)
"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things."

Isaiah 45:7 (NIV)
"I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the Lord, do all these things."
I'm very sorry to hear what you've been through SP, as far as your personal experiences are concerned. I cannot relate entirely, but I hope that God offers an explanation to you.
I know that you are not attacking me, and that you are merely addressing my comment '...is God and Jesus not enough for someone...'
As far as all other wickedness in the world goes, love must be free, and any intervention on God's part to desist man from his desires, is a violation of free will and an obstruction to His purpose - compel men to find Him on their own and love Him accordingly.
There are hypocrites, scoundrels and charlatans in every group. religious or not. We don't assume that all wicked persons who label themselves by a certain appellation, are sincerely so. Thus, we don't accuse Jesus for the faults of those who don't abide by his precepts.
Jesus' words are perfect and lead to eternal life, irrespective of what occurs on earth to any of us, for better ort for worse. We expect that what God has in store for those who accept the Messiaship of his son, will never compare to the sufferings that we all go through here on earth.

Again SP, i hope that you find peace in knowing that what occurs to us on earth is not always our faults. There is no shame in being a victim, but much more so in being a cowardly and weak, predator, or culprit of any sort.
 

DNB

Christian
Yes, but no one was without sin to cast that first stone. That's the point. Jesus never said we actually do stop sinning. Even his disciples didn't really stop sinning. Jesus never said any are less guilty of it, and clearly he expects that no one fully stops sinning.
But he does not expect people to overtly sin with no shame, and defy God's Laws. A transgender or transvestite should not been allowed in the Church on any level, unless they're there to renounce their ways.
 
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