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In the U.S., Christianity loses members while atheism grows. Why?

logician

Well-Known Member
LOL that isn't proven fact at all. It is speculation based on a limited survey. So much counter evidence for it around the world, it really made it a joke.

You are quite mistaken. Surveys among scientists for example show the vast majority are atheists.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Only because they think Science has the answers of "why", rather than "how"

Science is the how-things-work

Religion is the why-things-work
Enh... I don't think that the idea of NOMA is reflective of the real world. Religion does like to keep giving its answers to the "how-things-work" questions. And I think there's a lot of religious practitioners who would have major objections to the idea of keeping their religion completely contained in the box of "why".

Edit: I also know plenty of atheists (myself included) who would be unwilling to cede all questions of philosophy, morality and ethics to religion. There are plenty of non-religious sources that have quite a bit to say on these issues.
 
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Gabethewiking

Active Member
Why do you think Christianity is on the decline and atheism is on the rise?


Funny, I was reading the first comment whiles my slow connection was loading up the post screen and I Saw someone say that We (the U.S) do not have economic instability so that is out of the question, Funny hehe, well maybe it was written 3 decades ago, I dont know how old this thread is.

I would claim I know... The reason is, Better Education and Knowledge. We know that the better educated a people is, the lower god belief. Now we can even measure this by looking at states having Creationism pushed into school and see a straight decline in quality of life and lack of athiesm (being persecuted).

So education IN THE WHOLE has made Religion less active and existant. Now it is worth nothing that we are one of the most religious nations as well, so we are behind most advanced nations in this point, but yet we are getting more secular the more we learn about the world.

Thank God... :)
 

JMorris

Democratic Socialist
Well, this has become a real religion bashing thread. :yes:

The biggest reason religion is on the decline is because it has been removed from public schools.

Parents have lost control of their children's education and they are being indoctrinated by so called progressives.

This comes as no surprise. It has been prophesied to happen.

well not every prophecy has to be bad. atleast this one didnt end in genocide......yet:drool:

blaming schools is a cop-out by people who dont want to take responsibility for having stupid kids. if you've lost control of your child's education its your fault. if you want your kid to believe the earth is only 6000 years old, keep them at home.
 

Apex

Somewhere Around Nothing
Now it is worth nothing that we are one of the most religious nations as well, so we are behind most advanced nations in this point, but yet we are getting more secular the more we learn about the world.

Thank God... :)
You believe that being religious puts us "behind" other nations?
 

Gabethewiking

Active Member
You believe that being religious puts us "behind" other nations?

Using the rate of STDs, Violence, Crime and Safety versus None-Religious nations who do not have this in our degree, and the less religious, the more "utopian", YES.

But thats just facts, you may deny it if you want :)


You do know that the less religious a people is, the better they have, Universally? The moer secular, whatever religious or not, the better, the less control religion has, the better the society is.

CORRECTION: No I do not "believe" this, I point to the facts of this using the world we live in, reality.
 

tumbleweed41

Resident Liberal Hippie
Well, this has become a real religion bashing thread. :yes:
No, it is a discussion concerning the OP.

The biggest reason religion is on the decline is because it has been removed from public schools.
I would not say the biggest reason, but I am sure that the removal of religious indoctrination in public schools has been a contributing factor in the decline of religious belief.

Parents have lost control of their children's education and they are being indoctrinated by so called progressives.
The removal of school induced religious indoctrination actually means parents have more control over what their childrens beliefs are.

This comes as no surprise. It has been prophesied to happen.
Enlightenment?
 

Gabethewiking

Active Member
Reverend Rick
How do you relate to other nations having less violence, stds, poverty and problems then us, as well as being less religious?

You seem to say that less religion is bad, that is all.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
Well, this has become a real religion bashing thread. :yes:

The biggest reason religion is on the decline is because it has been removed from public schools.

Parents have lost control of their children's education and they are being indoctrinated by so called progressives.

This comes as no surprise. It has been prophesied to happen.

How about we let the parents fill their own unfortunate child's head with religious gobbledygook instead of using my tax dollars to do it, eh? School is to educate and teach children useful facts and skills. The government has no place indoctrinating children with any particular brand of voodoo. Isn't that what churches are for?
 

Beaudreaux

Well-Known Member
Using the rate of STDs, Violence, Crime and Safety versus None-Religious nations who do not have this in our degree, and the less religious, the more "utopian", YES.

But thats just facts, you may deny it if you want :)


You do know that the less religious a people is, the better they have, Universally? The moer secular, whatever religious or not, the better, the less control religion has, the better the society is.

CORRECTION: No I do not "believe" this, I point to the facts of this using the world we live in, reality.
It's unreal how well you grasp reality!
 

Apex

Somewhere Around Nothing
Using the rate of STDs, Violence, Crime and Safety versus None-Religious nations who do not have this in our degree, and the less religious, the more "utopian", YES.

But thats just facts, you may deny it if you want :)


You do know that the less religious a people is, the better they have, Universally? The moer secular, whatever religious or not, the better, the less control religion has, the better the society is.

CORRECTION: No I do not "believe" this, I point to the facts of this using the world we live in, reality.
Funny, and all this time I have been told it is our freedom to own firearms that was the main cause of our violence and crime.:rolleyes:
 

Apex

Somewhere Around Nothing
One of many contributing factors.
Guess I will add "believing in God" to my list of contributing factors to violence. I will have to remember to pay more attention to the old Baptist lady down the street in case she pulls her glock on me.
:D
 

tumbleweed41

Resident Liberal Hippie
Guess I will add "believing in God" to my list of contributing factors to violence. I will have to remember to pay more attention to the old Baptist lady down the street in case she pulls her glock on me.
:D
No one claimed believing in a god to be a contributing factor, rather we are speaking of organized religion.
 
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