Trailblazer
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Where was he railing?
How is that related to "God does not leave anyone without His love, whether they want it or not." ?
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Incredulity in the supernatural.
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How is that related to "God does not leave anyone without His love, whether they want it or not." ?
Pete in Panama
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huh, we got "morally" bad, we got logically bad, we got aesthetically bad, all kinds of bads that I haven't brought up. I know you like all the other kinds of bad but I'd prefer we handled one thing at a time. Lots of definitions out there for bad (look here). In the English languale bad is a simple word but if you really insist on playing word games I'll desist and you can play it by yourself. I should warn you that if you play it by yourself for too long some say u can go blind.
Pete in Panama
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Let's get together here on what is and what is not science. Science is inquiry though observation. If you want to make up your observations and lie by publishing your imaginary observations as fact, your complaining about "authoritarian dogmatism" wont wash.
Pete in Panama
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--and if you want to lie about your data you will be absolutely banned. Reality has it's limits. In the grown up world we have to deal with it as it is.
PureX
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Biochemistry is just more blind, stupid physics.
PureX
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It has nothing to do with anyone lying. It has to do with the fact that human interpretations of the limited facts they have available will be inevitably flawed. And that means we cannot access any "absolute truth". The best we can get is 'true relative to the limited facts at hand'. And this goes for ALL of us, including scientists.
ppp
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That is a large paragraph of non responsiveness.
Please see:
Also, Pete, I'm going to ask this again since you ignored it the first time:
I'm not asking if you understand that falsifying data is a problem and not tolerated by the scientific community. That much is obvious. I am asking if you understand that science is not an authoritarian, dogmatic method of inquiry and does not deal in "absolute truth." Actual working scientists understand this - it's why the discipline is perpetually self-correcting and self-revising. It doesn't do dogma, and it doesn't do blind acceptance of authority that produces notions like "absolute truth."
I suggest you learn to love it.
It seems very likely to me that that biochemical-bioelectrical brain above your shoulders is the most personal one you'll ever have.
PureX
Veteran Member
The realm of cognition that physics enables transcends the mechanisms that generate it. And that this can happen is the great mystery that most people call God. Gos is NOT the physics.
That only means that our researches into what the brain does and how it does it are a work in progress ─ a confidence strongly supported by the advances we've made in mapping the brain, tracing the functions and cooperation of its parts, and insights into how they actually work, since the research made possible by new tools, going back to the 1990s.
It's truly fascinating, if you care to follow it. I'd suggest Science Daily is as good a place as any to start.
Mariano Sigman's The Secret Life of the Mind (2015) is also very readable and very informative.
PureX
Veteran Member
The how isn’t really what matters. It’s just useful.
Certainly the what is the popular favorite. But the how is deeply fascinating, an unfolding story.
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Aupmanyav
Be your own guru
He was. Remember where he said 'Terrible is the retribution of Allah'. We have discussed that many a time.
When the manifestation of Allah says that, it shows that Allah/God does not love all.
Hey hey, Atheist here, when i was young i believed in ESP powers and ghosts and stuff, but with the years i felt insufficient evidence (although very entertaining) was being provided, and kinda put it away, i still think there's things out there i cannot explain, but if i need to leap into supernatural phenomena to justify it... i don't care that much
So, i see you are quite religious, i don't know what religion, probably mostly Christian, or at least God believers. U have a book that's a collection of books, that has surely been edited time and time again, translated from ancient languages that nowadays we have a pretty good idea what they meant, but a lot of time has passed since.
Your deity is Infinitely powerful, knows all that has happened, happens, and will happen i assume Everything in this world is like it is, because this deity set it that way.
Well… I’m glad you believe you have figured it all out in your mind..
To love and be loved.In your world view, what is our purpose? i assume we are fundamentally different from the rest of the animal kingdom? i do have my own responses but i'd really like to know yours
Cheers!
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Sort of like those Hills were things roll 'uphill".
PureX
Veteran Member
No, the why is the popular favorite. It's just not popular with you.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
You don't think that parents sometimes rail at their children and say things like "now you are going to get it!" yet still love them?
The Why is explained by evolution, but I agree it's very interesting too.
PureX
Veteran Member
Evolution is just the how.