Evidence?
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Infinite time and space.
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Evidence?
swamplizard
Human
PolyHedral
Superabacus Mystic
All that paragraph from Wikipedia tells us is that the mass is concentrated at the center of the hole. That doesn't change with distance from the hole.
Photonic
Ad astra!
Infinite density is not spread out within the black hole, it is concentrated at the singularity.
Or would you be the first human to claim otherwise?
Photonic
Ad astra!
Can you describe time before the big bang?
Can you describe width before we invented the measurement?
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
What if dog was spelled c-a-t?
Photonic
Ad astra!
Yes, you could use a material reference.
swamplizard
Human
The time before time got to be the time is measured as 1. 
best,
swampy
best,
swampy
Photonic
Ad astra!
The time before time got to be the time is measured as 1.
best,
swampy
No it isn't.
You're still missing a frame of reference. 1 of what? 1 of how?
Just 1? At that point you might as well say the square root of negative 1.
outhouse
Atheistically
swamplizard
Human
No it isn't.
You're still missing a frame of reference. 1 of what? 1 of how?
Just 1? At that point you might as well say the square root of negative 1.
Hi Photonic,
All measurements are derived from 1, so yeh, just 1. Measurements are conceptual anyway, based upon limited perception. The number 1 captures infinity, neither existing without the other.
best regards from the boggy one,
swampy
Photonic
Ad astra!
Measurements can only be derived from one with a frame of reference.
The 1 is meaningless and imaginary until then.
swamplizard
Human
1 is.
The rest is imaginary.
A frame of reference is subject to the perception of the one who imagines.
best regards,
swampy
Photonic
Ad astra!
The problem is there is no perception. There is no imagining. Humans have a problem with this I understand but that is still no excuse for just passing it off.
swamplizard
Human
1 existed before perception/imagination, it is the only "value," the only "quality," the only "reference." It is difficult for conceptual acceptance, but it is so.
more boggy ramblings,
best regards,
swampy
PolyHedral
Superabacus Mystic
If "1" exists, than so does the rest of mathematics. You can't have the two be separate.
And you can use a vacuum reference for before our universe
PolyHedral
Superabacus Mystic
A vacuum is part of the universe.
Poly can you give me the equation on why there is no space or time outside of our expanding matter?