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Irony of the evolutionary belief

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
So, now you admit that there's no evolution

There is no "crockoduck stage" in actual evolution.
There only is such a stage in your strawman version. And yes, we all agree that your version of evolution is false.

, as the theory of evolution hinges on the hope that corcoduck's are found.

Nope.

In fact, and quite hilariously, if crockoducks were found, evolution (actual evolution as understood in the science of biology), would be disproven.

This is the extent of your failure. The evidence you demand to see "for" evolution, would actually disprove it.
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
I agree with that, but your only problem is that I do know everything about the TOE
Your posts demonstrate otherwise.
Expecting to see crockoducks "if evolution is correct" not only suggests you don't know what you are talking about, it actually PROVES that you don't know what you are talking about.


It's like trying to argue against gravity because "hammers float in the space station".
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
That is very dishonest and dishonorable from your part.

I disagree. I think it's extremely honest.

I made a robust case

You most definitely didn't. You just piled on claims and misrepresented science.

You don’t even openly agree nor disagree with your claim; you are just hand waving and being ambiguous.

I didn't handwave anything. I pointed out a problem. A problem you will clearly not address. Instead, you just double down and pretend there is no problem.

That's where the conversation ends.
That's what is actually "dishonest and dishonorable"

And now I predict that you will once again pretend none of this happened and will demand links, which in turn will also be ignored and misrepresented when given.
So I will refrain from that exercise in futility. Instead, I will just invite readers to click the arrows in the quotes of the posts to scroll back the conversation so they can read the trail of posts for themselves.

Anyway I have nothing else to say

Off course you don't.
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
Ok evading direct answers,.........
No. It's what it is. I can't make it clearer then it already was.

So I'm sorry if it is too difficult for you to comprehend.
A couple people rated my post with a like and a lol.
Maybe you can ask them if they are able to simplify it further for you.
 

Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
Staff member
Premium Member
So far science of the gaps is expanding while God of the gaps is shrinking as science closes up gap after gap in my view.
Intelligent people are able to analyse past trends in their future projection in my view.
I'm not even sure what "science of the gaps" is supposed to mean. An insult I suppose. But not one that is apt. Science was invented to fill in the gaps.
 

Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
Staff member
Premium Member
I agree with that, but your only problem is that I do know everything about the TOE
Who do you believe has set themselves up as the highest and final authority and the only "abettor?" of truth here? Clearly you don't believe it is anyone you respond to.

Did you mean "arbiter"? Probably so, since "abettor" is a person that encourages others to do wrong. SMH!
Yes, I'm fully connected to many many billions of people and God Himself as we all live in the same body. But the unbelievers are in the outer darkness.
Are you their final authority, arbiter or abettor? So many hats.
OK, I wasn't aware that you have set yourself up as the highest and final authority and the only abettor of truth. I thought you were a mortal like the rest of us, excuse me please
Oh, the irony!
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
No worries, I can see how ridiculous the ToE is. That's why I haven't taken the kool aid
It takes a special sort of pride (or hubris) to dismiss the work of millions of scientists over generations in virtually every university in the world, except in those countries run by Abrahamic religions, because you suppose you know better -- based on, well, what, actually? I do not accept that it is based on your superior education, or astonishing genius.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
about gaps -- "Since the discovery of Archaeopteryx, there have been many other crucial evolutionary gaps filled in the fossil record. Perhaps, the most important one, from our human perspective, was that between apes and our own species. ...transitional species leading from apes to humans over the last 6-7 million years.".
 

Pogo

Well-Known Member
about gaps -- "Since the discovery of Archaeopteryx, there have been many other crucial evolutionary gaps filled in the fossil record. Perhaps, the most important one, from our human perspective, was that between apes and our own species. ...transitional species leading from apes to humans over the last 6-7 million years.".
Did you read the rest of the website or just search it for some codewords that you think mean something?

It is a little surprising these days to see a website that still looks a lot like it's 1998 inception, though it looks like it hasn't had any attention since 2013.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Did you read the rest of the website or just search it for some codewords that you think mean something?

It is a little surprising these days to see a website that still looks a lot like it's 1998 inception, though it looks like it hasn't had any attention since 2013.
Did you read the article?
 

Pogo

Well-Known Member
@Pogo -- plus, would you say anything has substantially changed since it was written?
substantially no, it is an old website from fairly early in the internet age of creationism as can be seen by the links (with instructions even). the text may be dated, but evolution hasn't stopped happening and the theory is in no danger.

There must have been something that caught your eye but I'm not going to look for it.
 

gnostic

The Lost One
about gaps -- "Since the discovery of Archaeopteryx, there have been many other crucial evolutionary gaps filled in the fossil record. Perhaps, the most important one, from our human perspective, was that between apes and our own species. ...transitional species leading from apes to humans over the last 6-7 million years.".

You still don’t seem to understand that the word “ape” isn’t a name for any species. It is a name of branch within taxon order Primate, but itself is the name of the taxon (super-) family Hominoidea, which means “Apes”. What it means is that the families, genera and species - that are extinct or extant - shared some common traits.

The modern humans - or the Homo sapiens is the species, and it is the only one that are extant in the genus Homo.

Homo means “human”, but the Homo sapiens weren’t the only species of human or Homo. The Neanderthal, Denisovans, the Homo erectus, and so on, are all humans too, as well as being the “Greater Apes” or Hominidae (family), Hominoidea, and so on. So not only modern humans are both humans and apes, we are also all mammals.

Just as Mammalia are not referred to as species, it is shared trait that all mammals have mammary glands. We are mammals, just as the dogs, horses, lions, seals, brown bears, whales, and so on, are mammals too.

Understanding the terms in their proper biological contexts are required to avoid making wrong assumptions, and avoiding being ignorant..
 
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