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Irony of the evolutionary belief

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
You still don’t seem to understand that the word “ape” isn’t a name for any species. It is a name of branch within taxon order Primate, but itself is the name of the taxon (super-) family Hominoidea, which means “Apes”. What it means is that the families, genera and species - that are extinct or extant - shared some common traits.

The modern humans - or the Homo sapiens is the species, and it is the only one that are extant in the genus Homo.

Homo means “human”, but the Homo sapiens weren’t the only species of human or Homo. The Neanderthal, Denisovans, the Homo erectus, and so on, are all humans too, as well as being the “Greater Apes” or Hominidae (family), Hominoidea, and so on. So not only modern humans are both humans and apes, we are also all mammals.

Just as Mammalia are not referred to as species, it is shared trait that all mammals have mammary glands. We are mammals, just as the dogs, horses, lions, seals, brown bears, whales, and so on, are mammals too.

Understanding the terms in their proper biological contexts are required to avoid making wrong assumptions, and avoiding being ignorant..
There are reports differentiating apes and humans in the nomenclature.
""Ape" has been used as a synonym for "monkey" or for naming any primate with a human-like appearance, particularly those without a tail. Biologists have traditionally used the term "ape" to mean a member of the superfamily Hominoidea other than humans, but more recently to mean all members of Hominoidea."
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
We don't expect to find any such thing as we have already concluded that evolution is the biggest lie of the past millennium. If it was true, then we would have found millions of transitional fossils, which would be the evidence to support the theory. But the theory is dead in the water as there has never been a single shred of evidence to support it.
If we did find a crocoduck, it would falsify evolution. Anyone who understand evolution does not expect to find any crocoducks.

Evolution is the change in allele frequencies in a population over successive generations. It is a demonstrable fact of life. The theory of evolution is the collection of facts that describes how evolution works. It is the most well-evidenced scientific theory in existence. It's the backbone of modern biology.

Multiple independent scientists from multiple independent fields of science spanning over 160+ years have all produced evidence that supports evolution and none have ever produced any that doesn't support it. All available evidence from genetics, biology, chemistry, paleontology, paleobotany, zoology, comparative genomics, geology, anatomy, cladistics, biogeography, etc., etc. all point to evolution being a fact of life. There are many, many transitional fossils in existence. But we don't even needs those. Genetics alone is enough to demonstrate that evolution is a fact of life.

 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Someone please explain to me when a child is born or let's say an adult evolves, explain to me how it were survived the first week of life, without eyesight, without a spine, without muscles, Without a nervous system, Without skin, Without a mouth, without a throat, without the ability to swallow, without a digestive system, without hands, without an elbow, without legs, knees and feet?

Boy you must have really a lot of faith in just a blob laying on the ground?
I have no idea what you're talking about.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Nobody can even get sugar in their coffee cup all by itself.. But you expect it's reasonable for animals and humans to come about, all by themselves. Millions of steps?
I just put sugar in my coffee cup "all by itself" before I poured in the coffee. :shrug:
 

Pogo

Well-Known Member
There are reports differentiating apes and humans in the nomenclature.
""Ape" has been used as a synonym for "monkey" or for naming any primate with a human-like appearance, particularly those without a tail. Biologists have traditionally used the term "ape" to mean a member of the superfamily Hominoidea other than humans, but more recently to mean all members of Hominoidea."
So when presented with new information and clarification of historical confusion, you find this a reason to dismiss the information and continue with your prior mistaken notions. What? Why? Were your learning experiences earlier in life so traumatic that you have to avoid learning at all costs now?
 

walt

Jesus is King & Mighty God Isa.9:6-7; Lk.1:32-33
I have no idea what you're talking about.
The theory of evolution explains that life started with one cell, so at one point before we were fully developed, If evolution is true, before we evolve to have arms and legs and a spine, it's reasonable to think if we believe we came from one cell, at some point in time we were just a blob laying on the ground, but after a few billion years we just grow spine, Arms and legs, the ability to reproduce, You name it.
 

walt

Jesus is King & Mighty God Isa.9:6-7; Lk.1:32-33
I just put sugar in my coffee cup "all by itself" before I poured in the coffee. :shrug:
That's the point, you put in the sugar, the theory of evolution is, there is no intelligence involved in the process, I think you would be considered intelligence.
 

walt

Jesus is King & Mighty God Isa.9:6-7; Lk.1:32-33
That's the point, you put in the sugar, the theory of evolution is, there is no intelligence involved in the process, I think you would be considered intelligence.
Peace be with you. Have a very good day. :)
 

Pogo

Well-Known Member
The theory of evolution explains that life started with one cell, so at one point before we were fully developed, If evolution is true, before we evolve to have arms and legs and a spine, it's reasonable to think if we believe we came from one cell, at some point in time we were just a blob laying on the ground, but after a few billion years we just grow spine, Arms and legs, the ability to reproduce, You name it.

The development of limbs etcetera from a single cell that you are describing is called gestation, not evolution, talk to your mother, she might be willing to educate you at this point unless you are in one of those communities that denies sex education to children.

Oh and yes, nobody is claiming that this precursor to humans are viable on their own, that is the fantasy of the "pro-life" faction.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
So when presented with new information and clarification of historical confusion, you find this a reason to dismiss the information and continue with your prior mistaken notions. What? Why? Were your learning experiences earlier in life so traumatic that you have to avoid learning at all costs now?
Nope that's not the case. I am merely going over what scientists say.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
You still don’t seem to understand that the word “ape” isn’t a name for any species. It is a name of branch within taxon order Primate, but itself is the name of the taxon (super-) family Hominoidea, which means “Apes”. What it means is that the families, genera and species - that are extinct or extant - shared some common traits.

The modern humans - or the Homo sapiens is the species, and it is the only one that are extant in the genus Homo.

Homo means “human”, but the Homo sapiens weren’t the only species of human or Homo. The Neanderthal, Denisovans, the Homo erectus, and so on, are all humans too, as well as being the “Greater Apes” or Hominidae (family), Hominoidea, and so on. So not only modern humans are both humans and apes, we are also all mammals.

Just as Mammalia are not referred to as species, it is shared trait that all mammals have mammary glands. We are mammals, just as the dogs, horses, lions, seals, brown bears, whales, and so on, are mammals too.

Understanding the terms in their proper biological contexts are required to avoid making wrong assumptions, and avoiding being ignorant..
What about apelike?
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
The theory of evolution explains that life started with one cell, so at one point before we were fully developed, If evolution is true, before we evolve to have arms and legs and a spine, it's reasonable to think if we believe we came from one cell, at some point in time we were just a blob laying on the ground, but after a few billion years we just grow spine, Arms and legs, the ability to reproduce, You name it.
You seem to be confusing evolution with gestation ... ?
 
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