RAYYAN
Proud Muslim
What do you mean here! don't you know what is right and what is wrong!
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Is Athiesm a Religion?
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outhouse
Atheistically
lacking belief by way of education has nothing to do with position, or support. Your perverting the word belief as in context to knowledge.
Morality is knowing right behavior from wrong behavior, being able to distinguish and to favor behaviors that are right.FAIL
Right and wrong is not known, it is behavior.
Are instincts know known?
outhouse
Atheistically
You only learn what is right and wrong by moral standards dictated by geographic location you were born into.
Only man defines what is right and wrong, not a child.
jonathan180iq
Well-Known Member
What are you suggesting with this video? The conclusions are not only what you think they are.
outhouse
Atheistically
Man defines that. based on where you live.
outhouse
Atheistically
Exactly!!!!!!!!
I'm talking the findings of science, but you, Outhouse, are merely speculating. Speculation is all fine and dandy, but it cannot beat real, genuine information.
I disagree. They have all the teachers at their disposal, from parents to peers to experience to experiments.
outhouse
Atheistically
No they are not. They are born with instincts.
But one fact is not up for debate. Theism is taught, it is learned.
outhouse
Atheistically
Its all you have done friend.
Until you post said evidence to be debated, your position is speculation.
And you and I know the results of said test are factual speculation.
It is a fact no child is born a theist, agreed?
Atheism is taught too.
Sometimes. But it is not clear to me that it isn't also inherent to at least some people before they are presented to the idea of belief in God. See my post #160 in this thread.
I'm not going to argue with you because I believe your mind is firmly made up on this matter. Argument would be useless, then. So, let's just agree to disagree.
outhouse
Atheistically
It factually does not have to be taught.
One factually does not have to be a theist before one can become an atheist.
outhouse
Atheistically
I am asking you to support your position.
Not run when asked to do such.
I think you just got the jest of the evidence you posit is admitted speculation, is it not?
dust1n
Zindīq
And much like their Christian counterparts, the majority of followers disregard scholarship and prophets, go about their lives as if nothing happened, and spell very poorly.
I asked you to support your position and you gave me speculation, without any evidence to back it up. Now you accuse me of running. Yes, I'm running. Just as fast as I can -- from a "conversation" with someone who firmly believes speculations are hard evidence. I'd rather go beat my head against the wall than deal with that sort of attitude problem.
That is certainly how I recall my own situation. But what is being presented - and there is considerable evidence for that - is that human beings may have a biological or neurological predisposition to develop deity conceptions anyway.
It is obviously not a full determinant tendency, it may well not even be all that common, but it is at least conceivable that it may have been selected out of useful social effects.
Now I don't mean by that that people should be assumed to be theists until evidence to the contrary - I actually hate that there are those who want to. It just means that inate tendencies are very poor evidence one way or the other - and probably also that people lend way too much meaning to them.
I suspect that some people are literally born unable of developing or effectively pretending a belief in God while some others may be born "doomed" to developing some form of it, with many others developing varying degrees of vocation or adaptability towards one extreme or the other.
Odds are good that at some point in the next few decades we will have to conclude that societies must allow for acceptance of both full atheism, full certainty monotheism, and everything in between. It is certainly very miserable to be born into one of the two extremes (or feel like one was, anyway) while having to deal with a society that assumes the other extreme to be universal.