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No, the koran and hadith were enough for me." Not fair", you are joking, right ? I just read of a respected Saudi imam who said he though baby girls should wear little burqua's because they might inflame men. Or the Saudi "scientists" , a group of whom recently advanced that yes, women are mammals, but not fully human. Islam is a corrupt, despicable system, I stomached the koran and hadith, I want no more
Paul's claims are specious at best. So it seems reasonable to have doubts as to the validity of anything he said. Not saying that your position on Paul is wrong, but there are differing, valid viewpoints as well.
Just out of honest and respectful interest, what is the most accurate age of the girl in question, in your opinion. Just so we can put this absurd argument to rest.
Here we go again, round and round the mayberry bush. I don't teach anything about homo
Here we go again. If you were actually following the thread, you would have seen that I teach nothing about this issue in the classes ~I teach. I have never known it to come up in church, or a church board meeting. I have actually only discussed it at length one time with a fellow church member, about 30 years ago. So spare me your righteous indignation, you don't know what you are talking about
The hadith, the life of mohammed and commentary by various people, considered accurate and a "holy" book by most muslims, says he married her at six years of age. Marriage of girl children to adults is common in muslim country's. Open your eyes
He speaks for wahabbism a virulent sect of islam, it says it in the hadith. My criticism of islam is not shaky, it is based upon comprehensive study of the system after 9/11.
rove the Bible the Bible contains pedophilia, chapter and verse
I'm not going to judge Islam by the behavior of a minority of its adherents. I would feel far more reasonable in judging the entire Catholic Community for the actions of pedophile priests, repeatedly protected by the Vatican and pretty much every Church Official along the way. But, as with the minority of Muslims who marry children, I don't judge Catholicism, or as your logic would demand, all of Christianity, for the actions of relatively few of its adherents and/or even its' officials.
Nope, made in the image of what is revealed, in the Bible.
Further, if you are pointing to actions of a prophet of Islam as reason to ridicule Islam in general, you are conveniently forgetting that the Bible honors a man who was willing to murder his innocent child on the whim of a jealous God. So your case doesn't stand up to even the slightest scrutiny.
The difference is, Alleged Christians do it contrary to the dictates of their faith. muslims do it with the full support of their faith
I think you owe it to us to explain why, historically and evidentially, you grant validity to what is claimed in the Bible. Thus far, you have used quite a bit of circular, flawed reasoning, attempting to use passages in scripture to support your argument that the same scripture is valid and authentic. Can you get beyond that logical fallacy?
Where in the Quran does it condone this conduct? Obviously, you respect Paul as a prophet of Christ. Because of this is it OK to persecute Christians merely because your prophet did so at some point in his life?
Lets be totally clear, I don't "ridicule " islam I accuse and indict it, in general. It has committed more mas murders( sanctioned by the faith) than any other single entity on earth, much more than all the deaths in political oppression and war in the 20th century. Look at India alone, islam invaded and murdered millions upon millions. No non muslim state that borders a muslim state is free of constant harrassment and violence fomented by the muslims. Muslims, with full acceptance of their faith,were the primary movers of the African slave trade, shortly after the establishment of islam, and it continues right to this day. Islam has been at war against western values and culture from its beginning, we forgot, they never did. As has been said, you shouldn't judge a religion by 10 million bad apples (lol). They are supremeists, racists, and evil, all with the total support and approval of their religion. Modern liberal thought refuses to acknowledge this, hence the chaos, gang rapes, and muslim perpetrated violence consuming some nations in Europe. They abuse women, treat them far worse than second class citizens, they don't allow them to be educated, hell, they don't even allow them to drive, all with the support of their faith. I could continue for 6 or 8 paragraphs, but other than that, they are just fine
I don't "owe" you anything