Is Buddhism a branch of Hinduism

[crossfire]

As I said before, I reject annata whilst accepting the other three seals. It should also be recognised that the justification of karma is an even more ancient Hindu belief stemming from reincarnation that Buddha accepted. Finally, the idea of Satchitananda from the Upanishads was incorporated in the concept of nibbana.

Then you reject Buddha's teachings.

 

[crossfire]

What is not misleading are the bare facts that dharma was something much more ancient that Buddha latched on to, right? - or are you going to say that dharma as a concept was created by Buddha for the very first time?

The concept of dharma was around in ancient Egypt as Maat.
Maat - Wikipedia

 

[Shantanu]

Then you reject Buddha's teachings.

No. I accept his teachings on the 4 NobleTruths and the Eightfold path that needs to focus on mindfulness of thought and action. That is what Buddhism means to me as far as the cessation of suffering is concerned. The fact that Buddha did not recognise God and was definitely an atheist is clear from the fourth seal of annata which I reject as I have sufficient evidence to prove so. So Existential Buddism still focesses on the cessation of dukkha through the 4 Noble Truths and the Eightfold path and accepts Buddha's overriding concern on Kalama Sutta.

 

[Spirit of Light]

No. I accept his teachings on the 4 NobleTruths and the Eightfold path that needs to focus on mindfulness of thought and action. That is what Buddhism means to me as far as the cessation of suffering is concerned. The fact that Buddha did not recognise God and was definitely an atheist is clear from the fourth seal of annata which I reject as I have sufficient evidence to prove so. So Existential Buddism still focesses on the cessation of dukkha through the 4 Noble Truths and the Eightfold path and accepts Buddha's overriding concern on Kalama Sutta.

Buddha did not reject gods/Devas, but did not see a creator God like they teach in Christianity.

 

[Shantanu]

The concept of dharma was around in ancient Egypt as Maat.
Maat - Wikipedia

Does it say anything on ahimsa?

 

[crossfire]

Does it say anything on ahimsa?

Scroll down to the 42 negative confessions.

 

[Shantanu]

Buddha did not reject gods/Devas, but did not see a creator God like they teach in Christianity.

What does annata mean if not the principle of anatman or non-self or no atman that Hindus believed in?

 

[crossfire]

No. I accept his teachings on the 4 NobleTruths and the Eightfold path that needs to focus on mindfulness of thought and action. That is what Buddhism means to me as far as the cessation of suffering is concerned. The fact that Buddha did not recognise God and was definitely an atheist is clear from the fourth seal of annata which I reject as I have sufficient evidence to prove so. So Existential Buddism still focesses on the cessation of dukkha through the 4 Noble Truths and the Eightfold path and accepts Buddha's overriding concern on Kalama Sutta.

Anatta is about processed-based approach to metaphysics rather than a substance-based approach to metaphysics. Since there is no substance that can be found, Buddhism focuses on the processes of dependant co-arising.

 

[Shantanu]

Scroll down to the 42 negative confessions.

It talks about cattle because they were pastoralists perhaps: ahimsa relates to non-violence in any of is forms including anger control in words expressed.

 

[Spirit of Light]

What does annata mean if not the principle of anatman or non-self or no atman that Hindus believed in?

In my understanding Non self means that there is not a solid soul that passing on from lifetime to life time when we reincarnate. but that everything is always changing

 

[Shantanu]

Anatta is about processed-based approach to metaphysics rather than a substance-based approach to metaphysics. Since there is no substance that can be found, Buddhism focuses on the processes of dependant co-arising.

What is the metaphysics in so far as he existence of God as simultaneous oneness and separateness with the human atman is concerned?

 

[crossfire]

What is the metaphysics in so far as he existence of God as simultaneous oneness and separateness with the human atman is concerned?

I have found no such teaching.

 

[Shantanu]

I have found no such teaching.

You have evidently not heard about acintya bhed abheda tatwa in Hinduism.

 

[Spirit of Light]

You have evidently not heard about acintya bhed abheda tatwa in Hinduism.

Not a part of buddhist teaching

 

[Shantanu]

Not a part of buddhist teaching

It is an important part of my Existential Buddhism, which rejects anatta.

 

[Shantanu]

In my understanding Non self means that there is not a solid soul that passing on from lifetime to life time when we reincarnate. but that everything is always changing

I reject reincarnation in Existential Buddhism.

 

[Spirit of Light]

I reject reincarnation in Existential Buddhism.

Maybe you reject it, but in the original buddhism by Sakyamuni it is still a part of the teaching and a part of our life

Maybe t be you reject it because you do not yet understand how reincarnation is possible?

 

[Shantanu]

Maybe you reject it, but in the original buddhism by Sakyamuni it is still a part of the teaching and a part of our life

Maybe t be you reject it because you do not yet understand how reincarnation is possible?

Reincarnation is only possible if there is an element in the human body that contains the life history of the individual which upon death enters a new body: am I right?

 

[LuisDantas]

What is not misleading are the bare facts that dharma was something much more ancient that Buddha latched on to, right? - or are you going to say that dharma as a concept was created by Buddha for the very first time?

None of that.

I do however maintain that Ahimsa (usually by other names) is hardly much of a marker of Hinduism.

It is such a basic religious idea that it was probably rediscovered and restated dozens of times by various traditions all over the world and the millennia.

 

[Shantanu]

None of that.

I do however maintain that Ahimsa (usually by other names) is hardly much of a marker of Hinduism.

It is such a basic religious idea that it was probably rediscovered and restated dozens of times by various traditions all over the world and the millennia.

Modern history tells us that Martin Luther King and Nelson Mandela admired Mahatma Gandhi for his non-violent means to overthrow the colonials with passive resistance and words. Further, vegetarianism is central to Hinduism and derives from a fundamental belief in ahimsa. So I do not know where you obtained the idea that these were stated dozens of times by other traditions. Perhaps you can provide some analytical links that I can study.