Is Climate Change real or a Hoax

[Father Heathen]

D) You're being manipulated by people. They tell you there is climate change and maybe there is or isn't. But one thing is for sure they have had weather modification for decades. And they aren't telling you that. So they control the weather and they make things happen and then global warming gets blamed or whatever ...

Meanwhile, you're breathing whatever pollutants and toxins they are spraying up there with their chem-trials. You know that it just doesn't stay floating up there right? It all drifts down sooner or later.

People need to unsheep themselves so they can see through all the nonsense. It's the only way anything will change.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

D) You're being manipulated by people. They tell you there is climate change and maybe there is or isn't. But one thing is for sure they have had weather modification for decades. And they aren't telling you that. So they control the weather and they make things happen and then global warming gets blamed or whatever ...

Meanwhile, you're breathing whatever pollutants and toxins they are spraying up there with their chem-trials. You know that it just doesn't stay floating up there right? It all drifts down sooner or later.

People need to unsheep themselves so they can see through all the nonsense. It's the only way anything will change.

... Poe's?

 

[Father Heathen]

The difference between climate deniers and Flat Earthers is only a matter of degree.

I would love to see a venn diagram that shows what the actual overlap is among climate change deniers, flat earthers, anti-vaxxers, and creationists.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

I would love to see a venn diagram that shows what the actual overlap is among climate change deniers, flat earthers, anti-vaxxers, and creationists.

 

[Thief]

when I was soooooooo much younger

we looked forward to a white Christmas

I now live a few miles north

no more white Christmas

maybe never again

 

[siti]

Anybody seeing a trend here?

Trend? I thought those didn't count as "proof"...but since you mention it, there does seem to be a bit of a fashion for making absurd denials of the patently obvious by writing the most asinine remarks about things people are demonstrably ignorant about - irrefutable proof of scientific illiteracy is about all that can be discerned from this trend.

 

[Mindmaster]

Global Warming also known as human caused global warming, is the rising average temperature of earth atmosphere and oceans and its related effects, sometimes popularly summarized as climate change. But there’s another group out there popularly knowns as global warming deniers who say,

• A is not happening
• B) is not caused by humans
• C) is not significant enough to be a threat

Which makes more sense?

Climate change isn't a hoax, but the scientific community in regard to it is. Lots of cherry picking, errors of omission, and so on. Not to mention the flat out lies. Scientists who do present the accurate information are often wanting for jobs or ostracized since their opinions aren't politically correct.

But, the prime movers of climate change are the activities of the Sun and the dispersion of water vapor. (The most abundant greenhouse gas.) These are not caused by human activities.

 

[Bear Wild]

I cant find the one i originally saw, but heres one i found that may be just as well.

Sorry but that has nothing to do with what we know about global warming. Who cares about the survey, look at the evidence. Only someone in complete denial or with an ulterior motive would deny what humans are doing to the climate. Its time to put away political and religious differences and work together to reverse what we are doing. Ignorance will not protect us from what will happen. How much suffering will we accept before we act?

 

[Bear Wild]

It is changing. Part of it is natural and part of it is man.

I disagree. There was evidence which I will try to find that showed we should have been entering a cooling phase but instead we are not. The primary cause of increasing CO2 is human derived and the rate is increasing as the population is increasing. There is no evidence for any other cause at this time unless you are aware of what other natural event is causing such a rapid increase.

 

[Bear Wild]

Anybody seeing a trend here? After all the lip service to the certainty of catastrophic climate change, not a single scientist could be named. Wow! BTW, all you GW/CC adherents, I've got a bridge for sale in NYC that is guaranteed to protect from any climate catastrophe for years to come. PM me for a good price.

Here are some name just to mention a few

• E. A. G. Schuur
• , A. D. McGuire
• , C. Schädel
• , G. Grosse
• , J. W. Harden
• , D. J. Hayes
• , G. Hugelius
• , C. D. Koven
• , P. Kuhry
• , D. M. Lawrence
• , S. M. Natali
• , D. Olefeldt
• , V. E. Romanovsky
• , K. Schaefer
• , M. R. Turetsky
• , C. C. Treat
• J. E. Vonk

How many names do you need?

 

[Bear Wild]

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Thank you finally a way to prove the earth is flat. I knew the pictures from space were made up by NASA to cover up the fact that the earth is flat.

 

[sun rise]

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Note the correlation

Also:

 

[Ellen Brown]

I disagree. There was evidence which I will try to find that showed we should have been entering a cooling phase but instead we are not. The primary cause of increasing CO2 is human derived and the rate is increasing as the population is increasing. There is no evidence for any other cause at this time unless you are aware of what other natural event is causing such a rapid increase.

I agree that humans should be living responsibly, but think it is unlikely that we will do it. There are so many factors, it is not just as simple as our increasing the carbon dioxide content in the atmosphere. I'm not optimistic that humans are intelligent enough to forstall even their own extinction.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Here are some name just to mention a few

• E. A. G. Schuur
• , A. D. McGuire
• , C. Schädel
• , G. Grosse
• , J. W. Harden
• , D. J. Hayes
• , G. Hugelius
• , C. D. Koven
• , P. Kuhry
• , D. M. Lawrence
• , S. M. Natali
• , D. Olefeldt
• , V. E. Romanovsky
• , K. Schaefer
• , M. R. Turetsky
• , C. C. Treat
• J. E. Vonk

How many names do you need?

Whatever number you provide, he'll demand more, or perform some othergoal post shift. He's not asking for information, he's willfully constructing an unreachable burden of proof, so that no matter the amount of evidence provided, he'll say "but that doesn't PROVE it" and dismiss you. The fact that science doesn't deal in 100% certainty proofs is a scientific strength., wben used by the intellectually honest. When misused by people for whom ideology is more important than reality, it's percieved as a get-out-of-gaol free card to short circuit scientific discussion.

Remember, some people don't ask for information to learn about a subject, they ask for information to waste your time, and no matter what information you provide, they'll find some semantic wordplay to dismiss, rather than accept perfectly sound information. Don't take the bait.

By all means post data and analysis for the benefit of the lurkers and undecideds, just don't get disheartened when the intellectually dishonest ideology-dictates-reality types shift their goal posts and play their "but there's no proof!" tapdancing nonsense.

 

[stvdv]

Scientific consensus says yes, it is happening.

Maybe science only says "yes" to avoid that people start believing in "martians heating up the earth while flying in UFOs around"
One would not want such stories to hit the internet, won't we?

 

[stvdv]

Global Warming also known as human caused global warming, is the rising average temperature of earth atmosphere and oceans and its related effects, sometimes popularly summarized as climate change. But there’s another group out there popularly knowns as global warming deniers who say,

• A is not happening
• B) is not caused by humans
• C) is not significant enough to be a threat

Which makes more sense?

We have had "global cooling" in the past. Not caused by humans
So heating might have a non-human cause also

So even if "cooking my rice" does contribute to global heating
I think it's minimal compared to "non-human influences"

Even if heating is a big influence to the earth
I think the Universal Yin/Yang combi might create a new balance for earth (maybe less humans, but maybe that is better anyway)

 

[Martin]

Why would people make it up? What do they stand to gain - apart from saving the human race from extinction, that is?
Do you think that Doctor Evil has created this "conspiracy" to make a hundred million dollars? Surely he could come up with something a bit quicker than climate change to pursue his dastardly ambitions? Unless he's using that time-machine again....

 

[Martin]

Maybe science only says "yes" to avoid that people start believing in "martians heating up the earth while flying in UFOs around"
One would not want such stories to hit the internet, won't we?

Some say that Trump is a space-alien, so maybe you're right

 

[Jollybear]

...of what? A scientific consensus? I reckon the only thing that could possibly be irrefutably proven about science is that almost nobody understands it - and the proof - questions like yours.

So u understand the proof?

 

[BSM1]

Here are some name just to mention a few

• E. A. G. Schuur
• , A. D. McGuire
• , C. Schädel
• , G. Grosse
• , J. W. Harden
• , D. J. Hayes
• , G. Hugelius
• , C. D. Koven
• , P. Kuhry
• , D. M. Lawrence
• , S. M. Natali
• , D. Olefeldt
• , V. E. Romanovsky
• , K. Schaefer
• , M. R. Turetsky
• , C. C. Treat
• J. E. Vonk

How many names do you need?

Never seen any of these on any news show screaming the world is ending. Nice try, though.