Is God pro-abortion?

[McBell]

What you’ve said so far: They ate the apple and Bible doesn’t mention that, you posted a cartoon, you’re addicted to pornography, use apostates and unbelievers for your trusted sources, don’t know what the message of the Bible is, don’t know what God’s standards are or know God yet you put yourself in the seat of a judge against your Creator, you don’t even know that a baby in the mothers womb is an individual person. Keep on going with your deranged thinking though.

How quickly one forgets their own Bible verses.

Here we see you have completely thrown Exodus 20:16 out the window.
But please, keep presenting your holier than thou anti-Biblical sermons.

It reveals so much about what you really think about your gods sovereignty.

 

[ElishaElijah]

Oh, it is so sad when a literalist cannot understand his own book of myths. When one says that Adam "ate the apple" that is in reference to the forbidden fruit of the Garden of Eden. It does not mean that it was an actual apple.

I never said or even implied that I am addicted to pornography. But it appears that you might be. You tend to project rather heavily. I pointed out that pornography is not bad in of itself. Only the sexually addicted seem to think otherwise.

You cannot fully understand the message of the Bible until you understand the flaws in the Bible and since you reuse to admit that those obvious flaws exist you can never fully understand it.

You have also failed to prove that a fetus is a baby. We know that it is a fetus. That is a proper term for it. When it comes to demonstrating that it is something more than that you fail utterly.

And lastly your version of God clearly does not exist, but you do not even want to go into that. You believe in an incompetent God that is vain and hateful. He is almost the opposite of Jesus. No wonder that you are so confused at times.

By the way, there are some legitimate arguments against abortion, but you have failed to post any.

Brother, you are a deranged individual and yes you’re sickening to come up with sexually perverted terms as examples, it’s shows where you’re at spiritually and yes you have a problem and are addicted to pornography, it’s progressive and shows in your comments. Anyone approving of that is just the same. You pervert the Scriptures as well.
Take you own advice and use the proper words and terms.

 

[ElishaElijah]

How quickly one forgets their own Bible verses.

Here we see you have completely thrown Exodus 20:16 out the window.
But please, keep presenting your holier than thou anti-Biblical sermons.

It reveals so much about what you really think about your gods sovereignty.

Really, how so?

 

[ElishaElijah]

Oh, it is so sad when a literalist cannot understand his own book of myths. When one says that Adam "ate the apple" that is in reference to the forbidden fruit of the Garden of Eden. It does not mean that it was an actual apple.

I never said or even implied that I am addicted to pornography. But it appears that you might be. You tend to project rather heavily. I pointed out that pornography is not bad in of itself. Only the sexually addicted seem to think otherwise.

You cannot fully understand the message of the Bible until you understand the flaws in the Bible and since you reuse to admit that those obvious flaws exist you can never fully understand it.

You have also failed to prove that a fetus is a baby. We know that it is a fetus. That is a proper term for it. When it comes to demonstrating that it is something more than that you fail utterly.

And lastly your version of God clearly does not exist, but you do not even want to go into that. You believe in an incompetent God that is vain and hateful. He is almost the opposite of Jesus. No wonder that you are so confused at times.

By the way, there are some legitimate arguments against abortion, but you have failed to post any.

Opposite of Jesus, Lol, they are One and the same, Jesus also said if you look on a woman with lust you commit adultery, yet you see nothing wrong with that. Your false view of God and lack of understanding is why you see a discrepancy between the Father and Son, God is the same yesterday, today and forever.
For you to see a vengeful, hateful God is out of your own evil heart, have you even considered looking at the prayer of repentance in Nehemiah, Danial and other places? Those people didn’t blame God at all, only people that blamed God and talked like you do were the ones who lacked trust in God and kept wanting to return to Egypt, they ended up dying in the wilderness, wandering in it.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Opposite of Jesus, Lol, they are One and the same, Jesus also said if you look on a woman with lust you commit adultery, yet you see nothing wrong with that. Your false view of God and lack of understanding is why you see a discrepancy between the Father and Son, God is the same yesterday, today and forever.
For you to see a vengeful, hateful God is out of your own evil heart, have you even considered looking at the prayer of repentance in Nehemiah, Danial and other places? Those people didn’t blame God at all, only people that blamed God and talked like you do were the ones who lacked trust in God and kept wanting to return to Egypt, they ended up dying in the wilderness, wandering in it.

The Bible disagrees with you. Yes, there are some verses in John where it looks as if Jesus was claiming to be God. But by the same standards there are even more verses where he denies that.

And no,to.show that God is evil and vengeful one only needs to quote the Bible. Once again you cannot afford to fully understand the Bible because that would refute your own beliefs about God. I do not have the emotional investment into a false God that you have. I can afford to understand the Bible since that will not affect my beliefs.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Brother, you are a deranged individual and yes you’re sickening to come up with sexually perverted terms as examples, it’s shows where you’re at spiritually and yes you have a problem and are addicted to pornography, it’s progressive and shows in your comments. Anyone approving of that is just the same. You pervert the Scriptures as well.
Take you own advice and use the proper words and terms.

Nope, it took a while to search for one that would have the desired effect. Look at you, you still cannot admit that my word was perfect. It aptly demonstrated how poor your argument was. It also demonstrated your own sexual immaturity and in fact hints that you might not be as straight sexually as you claim to be.

You should realize that people are in general odd when it comes to getting their freak on. What two individuals do in the privacy of their own bedroom is of no concern to you or me, unless you secretly wish that you could do the same. I just think "not for me" and move on.

And no, the so called addiction to pornography is for the most part a Christian myth. You obviously desire to look at porn quite a lot and cannot let yourself do so. As a result you have to break the Ninth Commandment and make false accusations about others.

If I am addicted to anything it is to arguing with people on the internet. I spend far more time doing that than I ever do with porn.

 

[ElishaElijah]

Brother, you are a deranged individual and yes you’re sickening to come up with sexually perverted terms as examples, it’s shows where you’re at spiritually and yes you have a problem and are addicted to pornography, it’s progressive and shows in your comments. Anyone approving of that is just the same. You pervert the Scriptures as well.

The Bible disagrees with you. Yes, there are some verses in John where it looks as if Jesus was claiming to be God. But by the same standards there are even more verses where he denies that.

And no,to.show that God is evil and vengeful one only needs to quote the Bible. Once again you cannot afford to fully understand the Bible because that would refute your own beliefs about God. I do not have the emotional investment into a false God that you have. I can afford to understand the Bible since that will not affect my beliefs.

“Then He said to them, “These are the words which I spoke to you while I was still with you, that all things must be fulfilled which were written in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms concerning Me.””
‭‭Luke‬ ‭24:44‬ ‭NKJV‬‬
Jesus Christ didn’t have your view of God the Father, quite the opposite.
Same with Psalms like 107.

 

[ElishaElijah]

Nope, it took a while to search for one that would have the desired effect. Look at you, you still cannot admit that my word was perfect. It aptly demonstrated how poor your argument was. It also demonstrated your own sexual immaturity and in fact hints that you might not be as straight sexually as you claim to be.

You should realize that people are in general odd when it comes to getting their freak on. What two individuals do in the privacy of their own bedroom is of no concern to you or me, unless you secretly wish that you could do the same. I just think "not for me" and move on.

And no, the so called addiction to pornography is for the most part a Christian myth. You obviously desire to look at porn quite a lot and cannot let yourself do so. As a result you have to break the Ninth Commandment and make false accusations about others.

If I am addicted to anything it is to arguing with people on the internet. I spend far more time doing that than I ever do with porn.

Already told you I was addicted to drugs, alcohol, pornography and every evil thing 30 years ago. God delivered me and changed me. The notion that I did that on my own like I have some great strength is hilarious, or that I have some righteousness of my own or something. Only a merciful, all powerful God could do that and change someone’s heart like that.
You’re where I was 30 years ago, that’s how I know. You justify your foul examples because you exposed yourself, God can and would deliver you just like He did for me and countless others. Fact is, you can’t just quit. You’re stuck now.

 

[We Never Know]

Nope, it took a while to search for one that would have the desired effect. Look at you, you still cannot admit that my word was perfect. It aptly demonstrated how poor your argument was. It also demonstrated your own sexual immaturity and in fact hints that you might not be as straight sexually as you claim to be.

You should realize that people are in general odd when it comes to getting their freak on. What two individuals do in the privacy of their own bedroom is of no concern to you or me, unless you secretly wish that you could do the same. I just think "not for me" and move on.

And no, the so called addiction to pornography is for the most part a Christian myth. You obviously desire to look at porn quite a lot and cannot let yourself do so. As a result you have to break the Ninth Commandment and make false accusations about others.

If I am addicted to anything it is to arguing with people on the internet. I spend far more time doing that than I ever do with porn.

What did you google search for to find that word? Its pretty gross and nasty. I would think one would already have knowledge of the word to even know what to search for.

Now before you try to say I might not be as straight as I claim or whatever, I also think eating raw road kill off the road is gross and nasty and have no desire for that either.

 

[We Never Know]

Already told you I was addicted to drugs, alcohol, pornography and every evil thing 30 years ago. God delivered me and changed me. The notion that I did that on my own like I have some great strength is hilarious, or that I have some righteousness of my own or something. Only a merciful, all powerful God could do that and change someone’s heart like that.
You’re where I was 30 years ago, that’s how I know. You justify your foul examples because you exposed yourself, God can and would deliver you just like He did for me and countless others. Fact is, you can’t just quit. Your stuck now.

Congrats on beating your addictions regardless of how you beat them. That's something many cant do. Kudos and I hope your life continues on a good path.

 

[Subduction Zone]

“Then He said to them, “These are the words which I spoke to you while I was still with you, that all things must be fulfilled which were written in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms concerning Me.””
‭‭Luke‬ ‭24:44‬ ‭NKJV‬‬
Jesus Christ didn’t have your view of God the Father, quite the opposite.
Same with Psalms like 107.

that verse does not support your claim. In fact Jesus quite often disagreed with God. For example he did not have God's reverence for the Sabbath. God had someone killed for just picking up sticks on the Sabbath. Jesus did not share that view.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Already told you I was addicted to drugs, alcohol, pornography and every evil thing 30 years ago. God delivered me and changed me. The notion that I did that on my own like I have some great strength is hilarious, or that I have some righteousness of my own or something. Only a merciful, all powerful God could do that and change someone’s heart like that.
You’re where I was 30 years ago, that’s how I know. You justify your foul examples because you exposed yourself, God can and would deliver you just like He did for me and countless others. Fact is, you can’t just quit. You’re stuck now.

One can be addicted to drugs. Unfortunately you included things that are not addictive with your problem. And you already admitted that you had help in getting off of drugs. You give your God credit where it was not due.

And I used no "foul examples". I merely used an example that I knew would drive a homophobic (and therefore probably latent homosexual) off the deep end. It worked. You lost your argument so badly that you forgot what the argument was about.

 

[Subduction Zone]

What did you google search for to find that word? Its pretty gross and nasty. I would think one would already have knowledge of the word to even know what to search for.

Now before you try to say I might not be as straight as I claim or whatever, I also think eating raw road kill off the road is gross and nasty and have no desire for that either.

Yes, I had to Google search for that sort of term. One only needs to know that there are many people out there that enjoy what seem to be really really odd things to the rest of us. There are all sorts of strange sexual practices out there and most of us would simply say "Nope! That's no me" Unfortunately I am debating an unreasonable person so sometimes shock must be used as a tactic.

By the way, the Urban Dictionary can be a very good source for those sorts of terms. I found things there that straight people supposedly do (sorry not me since I am rather vanilla in my adventures). The response I received did reveal deep seated homophobia. A problem all of its own. The word was only used to demonstrate how utterly foolish his "that word is not in the Bible" argument was. It succeeded amazingly well.

 

[1213]

Because I have read and understood the Bible. Perhaps you should read it some day. Or if you want to take a shortcut there is this video that you can watch. It covers every death caused by God in the Bible...

And where it is said in the Bible, God kills righteous people?

 

[1213]

...What makes a human a human and a puppy a puppy? It cannot be just DNA. DNA on its own is just a molecule. It cannot be because humans have a soul since it is unknown if we do have a soul and if we have one when it becomes part of us. ...

Yes, I would like to hear the definition of a human that you accept. Then I believe I can show you that you are not any more a human than a fetus is. But don’t worry, I don’t ask it to get reason to kill dehumanized people.

 

[Subduction Zone]

And where it is said in the Bible, God kills righteous people?

Christians will make that claim and object when one points out that their version of God is evil.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Yes, I would like to hear the definition of a human that you accept. Then I believe I can show you that you are not any more a human than a fetus is. But don’t worry, I don’t ask it to get reason to kill dehumanized people.

Please do not try to shift the burden of proof. If you want to change things you must find a valid argument for a change. Right now the law supports me and I am willing to accept that.

By the way, your response is typical of a person that knows that he is wrong. You might want to rethink your strategies.

 

[ElishaElijah]

that verse does not support your claim. In fact Jesus quite often disagreed with God. For example he did not have God's reverence for the Sabbath. God had someone killed for just picking up sticks on the Sabbath. Jesus did not share that view.

Jesus is in perfect agreement, do you understand what just happened in Numbers, what just transpired in their rebellion and then the guy continues with no fear on the Sabbath? They just refused to obey God to enter the land. And you are falsely equating Jesus healing on the Sabbath, doing good as the Lord of the Sabbath. You’re mistaken

 

[Subduction Zone]

Jesus is in perfect agreement, do you understand what just happened in Numbers, what just transpired in their rebellion and then the guy continues with no fear on the Sabbath? They just refused to obey God to enter the land. And you are falsely equating Jesus healing on the Sabbath, doing good as the Lord of the Sabbath. You’re mistaken

Not just that but Luke 6 1-5 and other examples as well. And I am not sure of which Numbers passage that you are referring to.

EDIT: Oh wait, you are referring to the immoral killing in Numbers of the person that gathered sticks.

Sorry, wrong again. Nothing there about refusing to enter the land. that is an unjustified assumption on your part:

Numbers 15 NIV - Supplementary Offerings - The LORD said - Bible Gateway

 

[ElishaElijah]

One can be addicted to drugs. Unfortunately you included things that are not addictive with your problem. And you already admitted that you had help in getting off of drugs. You give your God credit where it was not due.

And I used no "foul examples". I merely used an example that I knew would drive a homophobic (and therefore probably latent homosexual) off the deep end. It worked. You lost your argument so badly that you forgot what the argument was about.

Sin is addictive and you exposed yourself as a debased person by the example you use, then try to get the focus off your sinful self. Already know about that. You’re not fooling anyone. You talk about bearing false witness and then call someone as homophobia, not sure who you mean though, are you homosexual too?