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Is Islam a universal religion.

Looncall

Well-Known Member
I would say five percent of total labelled muslims are really practicing muslims. However, I would say that 90 percent or maybe more of the people who later come to Islam are true muslims. I am not sure if that would make it easy for you.

Yes, I would agree. This is one of the prophecies of our prophet muhammad peace be upon him.

We are great in numbers but low in quality

Interesting. Thanks.

Why is islam so ineffective that its adherents do not follow its prescriptions?
 

Sabour

Well-Known Member
Perhaps you mean practice Islam the right way?

But I do see your point, and agree with the main notion behind it. It is predicted already that piety keeps decreasing with each generation of Islam!

First, many muslims don't even care what Islam tells them. And second, yes many don't practice Islam the right way due to pure understanding
 

Draupadi

Active Member
It is best to know what is being spoken yes. But it is not necessary.

It's like the prescription that we get from a doctor. We don't understand what he writes in the letter which we give to the chemist nor do we understand how the medication works inside our body, we just know that it will cure us and that's the main thing. If you want to study more you are free to do so if not it suffices to know that it is good for you.

It is said that the recitation of Quran with the knowledge of its meaning bring more sawab than recitation without its knowledge. How can you say that it is not necessary to know it's meanings? The Quran contains knowledge on philosophy, science, law, etc. The Quran encourages us to find it by ourselves and not via scholars, many of whom tend to twist the meanings to suit their needs..
 

ZooGirl02

Well-Known Member
Well, I would call Islam global rather than universal. I call it global because Islam encompasses people of every race and nation. But then again, you can say the exact same thing for Catholicism.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
Well, I would call Islam global rather than universal. I call it global because Islam encompasses people of every race and nation. But then again, you can say the exact same thing for Catholicism.
And Judaism, and Buddhism, and Bahai and Scientology etc...
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member

Truthful Religion has always been one and global/universal in the sense that truthful founders of religions like Buddha,Krishna,Zoroaster, Moses, Jesus, Socrates, Muhammad received Word of Revelation from the same source of the One-True-God.

Regards
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
Truthful Religion has always been one and global/universal in the sense that truthful founders of religions like Buddha,Krishna,Zoroaster, Moses, Jesus, Socrates, Muhammad received Word of Revelation from the same source of the One-True-God.

Regards
Socrates? :rolleyes:

Sorry, you will never sway me into thinking that so-called "revelation" is reasonable. But yes, if you strip away all the innumerable differences which each of the above taught, they pretty much said similar things... for whatever difference that actually makes.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Socrates? :rolleyes:

Sorry, you will never sway me into thinking that so-called "revelation" is reasonable. But yes, if you strip away all the innumerable differences which each of the above taught, they pretty much said similar things... for whatever difference that actually makes.

The Truthful Revelation is always reasonable; the One-True-God is All-Wise; so the revelation has to be reasonable, if correctly understood.

Regards
 

jimniki

supremely undecisive
In my opinion, there is no one size fits all religion. That includes Islam. Human nature is simply too diverse for such a thing to be possible. Or to put it metaphorically, we come in too many shapes and sizes for one religion to fit all of us.

Then why do we all agree that there is only one god?
Do we all then at least acknowledge that there is only one god but many cultural interpretations of the creator? Yes?

Or does one version automatically condemn any others as false?
Here my friend is where a lot of our problems arise...
 
Then why do we all agree that there is only one god?
Do we all then at least acknowledge that there is only one god but many cultural interpretations of the creator? Yes?

Or does one version automatically condemn any others as false?
Here my friend is where a lot of our problems arise...


:) In the Quran, God tells you that he brought down the gospel and the torah...the beauty about the Quran is that it confirms that all other religions come from him but man changed it over time so the last book from him is the Quran. The other beautiful part is that within the Quran he says he created different nations to test one another..he says that the righteous christian will enter heaven along with the righteous jews :).....Quran...stunning...the way it pierces the heart...you don't even need to understand just go to a Mosque and stand with the crowd and try praying...the feeling is overwhelming...but i do suggest anyone searching for God to read Quran :).
 

McBell

Unbound
Then why do we all agree that there is only one god?
who is the "we" you speak of?
I have to ask because there are several people on this very forum who do not believe that there is only one god.

Do we all then at least acknowledge that there is only one god but many cultural interpretations of the creator? Yes?
Nope.
Please see above.

Or does one version automatically condemn any others as false?
For many who believe that there is only one true god, yes.

Here my friend is where a lot of our problems arise...
Actually, the problems arose with your very first assumption that "we all agree that there is only one god" be cause frankly, it is just not true.
 

jimniki

supremely undecisive
who is the "we" you speak of?
I have to ask because there are several people on this very forum who do not believe that there is only one god.


Nope.
Please see above.


For many who believe that there is only one true god, yes.


Actually, the problems arose with your very first assumption that "we all agree that there is only one god" be cause frankly, it is just not true.

how many are there? I was genuinely under the impression the vast majority of religious folk believe that there is one god?
 

McBell

Unbound
how many are there? I was genuinely under the impression the vast majority of religious folk believe that there is one god?

Now you are moving the goal posts.
There is a huge difference between "all" and "vast majority".


Personally, I would say each individual theist has their very own god.
 
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