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Is Islam a universal religion.

LuisDantas

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Well, I happen to not only disagree, but to fail to see how that could ever possibly work. If it turns out that you are right and I am wrong, then more power to you.
 
paarsurrey

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
LuisDantas said:
Well, I happen to not only disagree, but to fail to see how that could ever possibly work. If it turns out that you are right and I am wrong, then more power to you.
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I think only then things could take a concrete shape for a meaningful discussion; otherwise it is all ambitions , claims, claims, claims and unending claims; and no reason from the scriptures itself.

Of course one could differ with me; difference of opinions could ultimately lead to a common approach and understanding among the human beings.
 
LuisDantas

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
paarsurrey said:
I think only then things could take a concrete shape for a meaningful discussion; otherwise it is all ambitions , claims, claims, claims and unending claims; and no reason from the scriptures itself.

Of course one could differ with me; difference of opinions could ultimately lead to a common approach and understanding among the human beings.
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Not sure how that connects. The scriptures are concrete enough, as are the endless and often pointless controversies about how to correctly use them.

That in and of itself is plenty enough evidence to me that they are not really adequate as references of religious wisdom. And reflecting on the matter, I'm truly convinced that no scripture could ever serve such a role; the actual discernment and perception of living, rational beings has no substitute.
 
paarsurrey

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
LuisDantas said:
Not sure how that connects. The scriptures are concrete enough, as are the endless and often pointless controversies about how to correctly use them.

That in and of itself is plenty enough evidence to me that they are not really adequate as references of religious wisdom. And reflecting on the matter, I'm truly convinced that no scripture could ever serve such a role; the actual discernment and perception of living, rational beings has no substitute.
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I don't get you fully; please elaborate.
 
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Yahya

Member
Can everyone in the world see the sun, moon, and stars? The flag of Islam represents a universal religious banner for all humanity and mankind to unit under to serve the creator of these signs.
 
Looncall

Looncall

Well-Known Member
Yahya said:
Can everyone in the world see the sun, moon, and stars? The flag of Islam represents a universal religious banner for all humanity and mankind to unit under to serve the creator of these signs.
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So what about those of us who are not convinced of the existence of such a creator?

I bitterly resent religious types presuming to measure my corn in their half-bushel.
 
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Yahya

Member
You are living in the last days of this present world rule and you will soon come to know who the creator is. Take it on leave it alone. My question to you is, are you self created? I am very sorry you are bitter, I though this was in a religious forum where people had control of those deadly emotions. It appears that your corn is rotting. Metaphysics is not being allied here, just common sense.
 
Matemkar

Matemkar

Active Member
not to bump the thread but just with the hope of finding some people accompany me in my new read inshaallah. Here's a book on the subject I recently saw and inshaAllah will read:

Universality of Islam by Allama Tabatabai
 
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YmirGF

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
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Well I answered the question in the OP. I don't see any debate yet.
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Personally, I find it highly entertaining that given the huge variety of opinions and beliefs amongst human animals that any group would dare to claim that their particular religion is somehow universal - in all but a very specific and relatively meaningless rendering of the term, that is.
 
Sabour

Sabour

Well-Known Member
YmirGF said:
Personally, I find it highly entertaining that given the huge variety of opinions and beliefs amongst human animals that any group would dare to claim that their particular religion is somehow universal - in all but a very specific and relatively meaningless rendering of the term, that is.
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Your insult was noted.
 
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