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Is Islam Compatible With Western Values?
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SpeaksForTheTrees
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As we can see for many reason they are not , main one being westerners do not take religion so seriously any longer , as in practising it . Is few christian that know how to interpret bible for example .
psychoslice
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Yes and I think that's a good thing, religions should never be pushed onto the public, even in Christianity there are so many different beliefs, and who's beliefs are going to be the controller, your, mine ?
SpeaksForTheTrees
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The controller game will continue civilization is as such, just won't be able to blame the christains any longer which yes is a good thing , another sacrifice of Jesus I think he would accept just to clear his name.
Is a forsaken world , one must find ones own peace )
SpeaksForTheTrees
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Jesus was like Krishna belonged to no one and should not be forced onto anyone , like I said most Christians do not understand , is fading
psychoslice
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Yes I think many Christian could learn a thing or two from Krishna, Jesus seemed to be a serious man, whereas Krishna was always like a child, up to no good sometimes which I like, it makes him more human and not just divine figure.
SpeaksForTheTrees
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No one to teach them , apathy beyond points of reason, evolution , we live in world where we taught to use logic and reason, the NT a subjective account delivered some time later .
Is best to let sleeping dogs lay ?
I'm here doing christian contemplation , is not everyday I talk this way , I do not show my grandchildren .
I stay with my belief until I pass , Jesus subjective or not is solid foundation
So you see that as serious practice? I beg to differ.
Sorry... that is, as our American friends, say, very much a non-starter. Russell's Teapot.
If you say so.
You are not helping.
The difference between the two being...?
SpeaksForTheTrees
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Not helping your agenda ? ,however is the premise set by a Islamic prophet regarding disbelief .
I was baptized and confirmed in parish church of Thomas , Thomas is my patron saint per se
24 Now Thomas (called Didymus), one of the Twelve, was not with the disciples when Jesus came.
25 So the other disciples told him, "We have seen the Lord!" But he said to them, "Unless I see the nail marks in his hands and put my finger where the nails were, and put my hand into his side, I will not believe it."
I could subjectively narrate why Thomas did not believe , can only be one reason after all he was a disciple.
A doubting Thomas is a skeptic who refuses to believe without direct personal experience—a reference to the Apostle Thomas, who refused to believe that the resurrected Jesus had appeared to the ten other apostles, until he could see and feel the wounds received by Jesus on the cross.
Thomas was simply overwhelmed by emotion , he loved Jesus "" son"" prophet of God so much he was unable to believe .
However outside of religion , Love can turn to hate but once experienced hate is very difficult to love again , is very fine line between love and hate
Jesus is for All he spoke with All , homosexuality not about then maybe in crowds?
Jesus is for none he didn't take side roman or Jewish etc
Jesus can NOT be forced on any one - son of god could of wiped out all present at Crucifixion , he did not force or resist even in face of death. He does not force himself on anyone is important point
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SpeaksForTheTrees
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It is difficult to have conversation with some so anti-christ I answered honestly
Not helping your case.
Of course Islam will be helpful by its own standards. Which are by no means particularly wise, let alone that pure expression of the absolute that it so often claims to be.
Ahah... yes, I suppose I am technically an antichrist. And our conversation is indeed difficult, since I have no desire to concede to your arbitrary and IMO unreasonable expectations.
Definitely, that God should be believed "just in case" because it is not "possible to prove that it does not exist" is safely in the scope of "not at all reasonable" far as I am concerned.
SpeaksForTheTrees
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I was baptized and confirmed in parish church of Thomas , Thomas is my patron saint per se
24 Now Thomas (called Didymus), one of the Twelve, was not with the disciples when Jesus came.
25 So the other disciples told him, "We have seen the Lord!" But he said to them, "Unless I see the nail marks in his hands and put my finger where the nails were, and put my hand into his side, I will not believe it."
I could subjectively narrate why Thomas did not believe , can only be one reason after all he was a disciple.
A doubting Thomas is a skeptic who refuses to believe without direct personal experience—a reference to the Apostle Thomas, who refused to believe that the resurrected Jesus had appeared to the ten other apostles, until he could see and feel the wounds received by Jesus on the cross.
Thomas was simply overwhelmed by emotion , he loved Jesus "" son"" prophet of God so much he was unable to believe .
However outside of religion , Love can turn to hate but once experienced hate is very difficult to love again , is very fine line between love and hate
Jesus is for All he spoke with All , homosexuality not about then maybe in crowds?
Jesus is for none he didn't take side roman or Jewish etc
Jesus can NOT be forced on any one - son of god could of wiped out all present at Crucifixion , he did not force or resist even in face of death. He does not force himself on anyone is important point
SpeaksForTheTrees
Well-Known Member
Thomas was outnumbered 10 : 1 that day they did not attack him for his belief , they had seen with thier own eyes per se.
If you want to play the game stick to narrative
Evolution , Existance of God is very Off topic
SpeaksForTheTrees
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Little crowd of letchers following me around spitting .
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Is the full experience rf the place to be during christian contemplation got to luv u guys
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Is the full experience rf the place to be during christian contemplation got to luv u guys
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