is islam 'really' peaceful?

[beenie]

haha :no: I will agree that you were wrong

Not gonna happen.

what's new? their always offended. It's time they stopped being so emo.

Emo for thinking people are going to kill them for visiting their mosque? Who's being emo again? "Oh no, they're gonna KILL ME!!!"

Here, let me hand you a mirror.

 

[AlphaAlex115]

The news doesn't exaggerate its findings?

Allow me to take a small break so I can fall to the floor laughing. I'll get back to you soon.

:biglaugh:

Thanks for respecting my views.

 

[beenie]

Thanks for respecting my views.

Your views? You haven't expressed any of YOUR views. You have only said what the media tells you. Do you know Muslims? Are they shelling your home? Are they picketing in the streets violently? What is your experience with 1.8 billion Muslims?

If we all go by the news for our opinions on religion, we should ALL be atheist.

 

[groves200]

Not gonna happen.

I know, you're a woman.. their never wrong.

Emo for thinking people are going to kill them for visiting their mosque? Who's being emo again? "Oh no, they're gonna KILL ME!!!"

I already said that was sarcasm and your still going about it, quit being so emo.

Here, let me hand you a mirror.

noooooo :run:

 

[AlphaAlex115]

If we all go by the news for our opinions on religion, we should ALL be atheist.

Exactly now you get it!

 

[groves200]

Exactly now you get it!

this thread is so full of sarcasm.

p.s: that was a good one

 

[beenie]

I know, you're a woman.. their never wrong.

Woohoo!

I already said that was sarcasm and your still going about it, quit being so emo.

LOL, ok. Emo session over.

noooooo bad hair day :run:

Ah, darn.

Exactly now you get it!

I should have known that would be your reply.

 

[paarsurrey]

Islam means submission to God, who is the Law.
Yes, it is a peaceful religion. A religion about Love, tolerance and pacific dialog.

Unfortunately the Muslim world is very large and full of diversities.
so there are people who, instead of decontextualizing the Qur'an, turn it into an instrument of hatred.
and they become murderers.

I think that any Muslims would say that these people act against God's will.
A Muslim friend of mine told me: God never justifies homicide. Never, never, never

Islam means submission to God

I agree with you.

There is no teaching in Quran/Islam/Muhammad for killing any person for conversion.

Regards

 

[Sabour]

Seriously what is the point of this thread? Turn on the news and you'd see that it's far from peaceful.

"News" only show you what they want to show you.

They can make anything good look bad and anything bad look good. It depends on what they want to show you.

 

[gnostic]

it is but not in theological sense and we are talking about theology.
even if OP used it in non theological sense, still i gave my answer to it in my post saying ' it is their fault if they arent seeing the elephant next to their noses'
anyway, as usual.. the truth is somewhere out there.

Worship is "worship", regardless if a person is worshipping a god, spirit, person, animal, place or an object.

You have heard of "hero-worship" before, haven't you?

Some Muslims do worship him. Some are even extreme enough to punish or kill in his name, especially if someone insult their prophet.

Insults to the prophet are treated as blasphemy, according to them, is treated as the same blasphemy against their god.

Take the naming-stuff-toy-Muhammad incidence or the Danish cartoons as examples. Especially with the later, the violences and murders committed in their prophet's name, have only shown to me that they are treating their prophet as god or god-like, hence an idol.

 

[outhouse]

"News" only show you what they want to show you.

They can make anything good look bad and anything bad look good. It depends on what they want to show you.

Here is the problem as it stands.


There are more good muslims then bad.

But the bad ones get all the press and media coverage, they define the stereotype.

BUT I am also finding muslims to be more fundamental as a whole in belief, then any other major religion. This is just my opinion.

 

[Sabour]

Here is the problem as it stands.


There are more good muslims then bad.

But the bad ones get all the press and media coverage, they define the stereotype.

Another thing I would like to add is that if any born muslim did anything, they directly say "Islam" is his motivation. But if any other person did anything, than his motivations are political or personal.

I think anyone who wants to know about the real Islam must look it for himself and make sure that sources are not biased nor deceived.

 

[outhouse]

Another thing I would like to add is that if any born muslim did anything, they directly say "Islam" is his motivation. But if any other person did anything, than his motivations are political or personal.

I think anyone who wants to know about the real Islam must look it for himself and make sure that sources are not biased nor deceived.

While I agree, as an unbiased party, I see the level of fundamentalism higher then others.


I know when it comes to history, most are refusing common knowledge. They flat deny the pseudohistory their book contains due to having plagiarized mythology in some places that factually originates from cultures within Judaism and Christianity.

There seems to be little wiggle room here.

In christianity the fundamentalist, "YEC" are a minority, and we have different degrees of belief and faith in interpretation, that peole do not kill one another over.

In the muslim cultures, people have fought and died over interpretation, even today. So trying to ditch the whole literal interpretation is out of the question, leaving the rest of the world viewing only fundamentalist.

 

[AlphaAlex115]

I should have known that would be your reply.

Necromancer mode activated.

If we all used our brains we would all be atheists? I didn't intend any sarcasm in that. I like to think I use my brain, but I'm a nihilist. Also bumping is relevant because ISIS ROFL.

 

[paarsurrey]

Necromancer mode activated.

If we all used our brains we would all be atheists? I didn't intend any sarcasm in that. I like to think I use my brain, but I'm a nihilist. Also bumping is relevant because ISIS ROFL.

I don't agree with one.
If one uses one's brains one would never be in Atheism. They say that negatives cannot be proved, if that is the case then no need to remain in Atheism. The doors of believers are open, not closed.
Regards

 

[ankarali]

First muslims lived during 13 years with the unbelivers and they never answered or attacked to them, in plus, they were tortured but instead of to fight they preferred to live in another city, after what happened you know? unbelivers treated muslims to fight and muslim in the first war defended themselves. According to Islam, we can defend ourselves only. I don't accept killing people because of an image of a prophet Mohamad or something else. According to Islam we can punish people by ourselves we must respect the laws and only the State has autorisation to do a war. In the actual World. Muslim people ara figthing with other muslims. that must be another question

 

[NewChapter]

Apart from what we see in the news. Apparently muhammed slaughtered and beheaded a countless number of people and they worship him? isn't that alone bad enough? and I know there's many peaceful Muslims but are they not going against their own faith because in the Quran it talks about how those who don't follow their faith should be punished...

You might be interested to know that in the Bible Jesus said the he himself is going to kill the disbelievers...Luke 19:11-27:

Luke 19:11-27
English Standard Version
...(27)But as for these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slaughter them before me.’”

 

[Jumi]

You might be interested to know that in the Bible Jesus said the he himself is going to kill the disbelievers...Luke 19:11-27:

Notice that Luke doesn't say Jesus was talking about himself here. Read the context.

 

[NewChapter]

Notice that Luke doesn't say Jesus was talking about himself here. Read the context.

It's talking about the King and the Kingdom...obviously a reference to Jesus.

 

[gnostic]

You might be interested to know that in the Bible Jesus said the he himself is going to kill the disbelievers...Luke 19:11-27:

Luke 19:11-27
English Standard Version
...(27)But as for these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slaughter them before me.’”

Notice that Luke doesn't say Jesus was talking about himself here. Read the context.

It's talking about the King and the Kingdom...obviously a reference to Jesus.

It is a parable, so I wouldn't take anything said literally.

And Jesus was never King, so I'd doubt very much that the parable was about him.

A King is supposed to rule and govern his kingdom. Jesus did no such thing, which would also make any claim of him being a messiah, flimsy.