Sand Dancer
Currently catless
Yes, it has mistakes, errors, inconsistencies and anachronisms, as it was written by men, but I don't take it as literal events, but the message I can get from the stories. It's totally possible to believe that.
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Is it possible for believers to believe the Bible has mistakes in it?
- Thread starter savagewind
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Sapiens
Polymathematician
I can do the same with Aesop's Fables, maybe better, without the mess.
For one,
I believe this is exactly what the parable of the wheat and tare represents. The tares, the falsehood. The wheat is the truth. The field is the word. While the owner of the field was away, the servants slept and while sleeping the wicked one came and planted tare alongside the wheat...and so on and so forth.
I believe this is exactly what the parable of the wheat and tare represents. The tares, the falsehood. The wheat is the truth. The field is the word. While the owner of the field was away, the servants slept and while sleeping the wicked one came and planted tare alongside the wheat...and so on and so forth.
sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
No, you can't. Aesop's fables aren't theological-based Tradition. they don't tell the theological story of the community of people who believe in God.
sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Yeah, except that's not the point Matthew wants to make. Without exegeting Matthew as a whole, one misses the points he's making with Jesus' sermons and parables.
Robert.Evans
You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
haha... I don’t think that there are mistakes in it, no. Though it is interesting how they don’t say the same thing exactly in all Bibles. If we are to class the Bible as Scripture, then how can it be wrong? Would it not be inherent? And if not, how do we trust it?
gnostic
The Lost One
savagewind said:
Jesus wrote no part of the bible, so how could you possibly know that what is written is true.
You have nothing more than your personal opinion; that's what your "faith" is worth - opinions and blind faith that the bible is perfect.
I have no need to believe in perfection, because perfection is also a matter of view, an illusion, based on circular reasoning.
Perfection don't exist in any religion or in any scripture, because they are all based on superstitions and wishful thinking.
Sapiens
Polymathematician
So? They're every bit as real, and a whole lot clearer ... and that is the point, the Bible is errors Pelion piled on Ossa, Aesop's fables is not and Aesop's fables does not pretend to be more than it is.
outhouse
Atheistically
Well there are factually many, of different kinds of mistakes, some geographic, some rhetoric and fiction and mythology.
Because you have many people who were far removed from any actual event writing about what they found important at a much later date.
Your mistake for making that classification.
By historical study so you can place different aspects into proper context.
If you don't know how each book was collected and compiled and edited, your reading blind.
sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
The only pretending going on is what both religious and atheist wacko fundamentalists try to make the bible out to be. The bible is an honest collection of honest documents. Aesop is only clearer because those little vignettes are shallow. And, unlike the biblical texts (as I said), they're not a theological record. And that's the big difference. Sure, the bible contains factual error. So what? It's a human invention; all human inventions contain error.
Robert.Evans
You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
no, just misunderstood
no
no
It is the lack of spiritual understanding that leaves you do blind on such matters
outhouse
Atheistically
Exactly.
Reminds me of a story
Little girl ripping pages out of the bible one after another stating errors and mythology!!!!!!!
father calmly walks up and puts his arm around the girl and states, honey you don't fix the bible, it fixes you.
Its all about context.
outhouse
Atheistically
no, just misunderstood
no
no
It is the lack of spiritual understanding that leaves you do blind on such matters
By the questions you asked, you admitted your lack of knowledge on these subjects.
Sapiens
Polymathematician
Honest? Hardly. At best it is a series of myths rewritten by well meaning apologists ... at worst well, that's a whole 'nother story!
Desert Snake
Veteran Member
Experience.
It applies to me as well, I don't pretend to be an expert at reading Scripture, far from it.
Levite
Higher and Higher
I suppose it depends on what you mean by mistakes, but in general, yes, it is possible to be a religious believer and yet not believe the text is absolute and beyond question. It is even possible to be a rabbi and not believe so....
Desert Snake
Veteran Member
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sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
I have spiritual understanding, and I agree with him.no, just misunderstood
no
no
It is the lack of spiritual understanding that leaves you do blind on such matters
sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Myth is myth. That's honest. What's dishonest is trying to pawn it off as pretending to be something it's not. The bible doesn't pretend to be anything other than it is. That's honest.
Sapiens
Polymathematician
It doesn't? It claims to be the word of a supernatural being! That's honest? I say that's horse puckey.