Also every scripture that separates Jesus and God
Nathan,,,Can you answer the following questions:
1. Who is the Savior?
2. Who is the "Holy One of Israel"?
This should be easy.
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Also every scripture that separates Jesus and God
Yeshua the MessiahNathan,,,Can you answer the following questions:
1. Who is the Savior?
2. Who is the "Holy One of Israel"?
This should be easy.
She cant explain it..... but your right, so many scripture tells us that God is the God and Father of Jesus. And he was and is and will be still subject to his father.How do you explain Jesus prayer to God in the garden "Not my will but yours Father." Also every scripture that separates Jesus and God.
I corinthian 8:6} But to us [there is but] one God, the Father, of whom [are] all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom [are] all things, and we by him. {
Yeshua the Messiah
Okay,, I asked:
Does this scripture help you to see that Jesus is God? Even you admitted that the Holy One of Israel & the Savior is Jesus,,, Isaiah 43:3 is telling you that the Holy One of Israel and the Savior is, " ...the Lord your God."
Keep reading. Verses 10-11 indicate He was a created YHVH.
I did not say shared glory proved Jesus was eternal. I said Jesus shared glory alongside the Father before the world was.
You are wrong! Jesus has always existed.
3. And right after Alpha and Omega it states He is also "the beginning and end" (Rev 21:6). So are you implying YHVH's existence will one day end?He is YHWH, the Alpha and Omega, the first and last! I am assuming nothing.
Jesus said He shared glory alongside His Father BEFORE THE WORLD WAS. There is no assuming. I believe the words Jesus spoke. I'm only sorry you don't. Instead you make Jesus out to be a liar.
JESUS IS YHWH!
James, you are going to believe what you believe no matter if Jesus, Himself, told you He was YHWH.
It wouldn't matter! You'd exhaust yourself trying to prove to HIM that HE isn't who He says HE is. I can only say to you, GOOD LUCK! You're going to need it because you'll get no help from the One who bled and died for you.
And with that said, I'll be moving on. There is no point in going further. You are no different than the JW's and Muslims who attack the character of my Lord Jesus. It's time for me to shake the dust.
Sorry james,, "Before Me, there was no God formed,
Nor shall there be after Me,
I, even I, am the Lord,
And besides Me, there is no Savior."
James,,, Isaiah 43:10 is proof positive that Jesus is the Creator.
Jesus isn't a creation... If He was created then we would be idolaters,,worshiping the creation.
Philippians 2:6 tells us that Christ was, "in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God."
People say, How can the Bible say God is One,, yet Jesus is also God and yet we see Jesus pray to God,, and on and on and on. Our minds are finite,, we cannot understand an infinite God. So,, people simplify and turn it into something they can understand,,and Jesus becomes a created being. But the fact of the matter is,, Jesus is fully God, and has no beginning and no end.
if Jesus was created,,,all who worship Him would be engaging in Idolatry. Those who claim Jesus is a creation are just not rightly dividing the word of truth.
Plus,, they must admit they are Idolaters. Not much more can be said.
Not exactly...
If my reply was that weak,, I wouldn't have replied... i would have quit,, and realized my error. Is it a Pride thing?
Not weak. It is actually a good argument.
The old testament also calls God the Rock. Does that mean that Peter was also God.Okay,, I asked:
1. Who is the Savior?
2.Who is the "Holy One of Israel?
Your answer was:
"For I am the Lord your God,
The Holy One of Israel, your
Savior..." Isaiah 43:3
Does this scripture help you to see that Jesus is God? Even you admitted that the Holy One of Israel & the Savior is Jesus,,, Isaiah 43:3 is telling you that the Holy One of Israel and the Savior is, " ...the Lord your God."
There are 68 scriptures that call Jesus the Son of God but zero that say he is God.She cant explain it..... but your right, so many scripture tells us that God is the God and Father of Jesus. And he was and is and will be still subject to his father.
You and several Jws,,, are going to be saying your sorry when you find out you how wrong you are on this one. I don't think it's an error that will cause one to lose salvation.
But,,, surely you have enough sense to know we are not to worship anything that is created. At any rate,, have a nice evening.
The verse you quoted shows Jesus was subordinate to His Father. Other verses show Jesus is equal to God. (Phil. 2:6)How do you explain Jesus prayer to God in the garden "Not my will but yours Father." Also every scripture that separates Jesus and God.
I corinthian 8:6} But to us [there is but] one God, the Father, of whom [are] all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom [are] all things, and we by him. {
The verse you quoted shows Jesus was subordinate to His Father. Other verses show Jesus is equal to God. (Phil. 2:6)