We can agree on thatJesus wasn't wrong.
How do you know that?...In the heavens, all events are concurrent and omnipresent. ...
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We can agree on thatJesus wasn't wrong.
How do you know that?...In the heavens, all events are concurrent and omnipresent. ...
I wrote that incorrectly, I did not mean fulfilling prophecy, but what happened as a result of him.
I think we can argue whether this happens pre or post Nicene creed and what is idol worship.
Failed attempt at reconciling
Is the Noahide law regarding idolatry written the same as the commandment?
No I failed. I thought Jesus was talking specifically about oral and written Torah but you corrected me.Sorry that I failed, if that's what you meant.![]()
On the list now ..Jesus is quoted: "And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world." John 8. That's the key to reconciling Jesus' vow in Matthew 5 with the rest of the clearly lawless behavior ( the "lord of the sabbath", Matthew 12, is the best example ).
It's a very complicated concept. It's very difficult to explain. One needs to understand the difference between existing on the world below, and ... not. The difference between existing in the heavens and existing on the earth. Once that is understood, clearly understood, Matthew 5 can be reconciled with the rest of the Gospels without any heartburn or confusion. It all fits: hand-in-glove.
Understood.Written...
The Noahide laws are derived from the stories in Genesis. Excluding the prohibition on animal cruelty and maybe murder, none of them are explicitly written.
No I failed. I thought Jesus was talking specifically about oral and written Torah but you corrected me.
On the list now ..
In Bible love God means you keep His commandments.
I don't think Jesus asked anyone to neglect
How do you know that?
We can agree on that![]()
But Jesus, foreseeing that the disciple's return to his house would throw him into serious inheritance care and controversy, which would cool his jealousy, said to him: Follow me and leave your relatives, who seem to be alive, but really because of their unbelief they are spiritually dead, to bury their own dead, because they also died in unbelief spiritually.
please, right?
He ,Yeshua son of Mary was the truthful Israelite Messiah, those who were truthfully Israelites did accept him, those who preferred to be identified as off-spring of Judah (aka Jews) did oppose him, right, please?Wrong. Jesus cannot be the Jewish Messiah. He is something else.
He ,Yeshua son of Mary was the truthful Israelite Messiah
Yes, Yeshua son of Mary was the truthful Israelite Messiah, those* who were truthfully Israelites did accept him, those** who preferred to be identified as off-spring of Judah (aka Jews) did oppose him, right, please?Wrong. Jesus cannot be the Jewish Messiah. He is something else.
the truthful Israelite Messiah in First Coming was a follower of Moses in deeds as well as his teachings as his mother innocent Mary was, please, right?
Yeah "Follow me .. I will Follow You" from Genesis .. after Peter left and Philip took over.“‘Follow me.’ But the man replied, ‘Lord, first let me go and bury my father.’ Jesus said to him, ‘Let the dead bury their own dead, but you go and proclaim the kingdom of God’” (Luke 9:59-60).
1) Please show me the directive in the written Torah to "proclaim the Kingdom of God"?
2) If you're correct, then Jesus is anti-Torah. Jesus says "do not bury him".
There is absolutely no etymological connection between Jesus and Zeus. Thus I assume you are just saying this to poke at Christians."Jesus" .. aka "HeyZeus"
There is absolutely no etymological connection between Jesus and Zeus. Thus I assume you are just saying this to poke at Christians.