MJFlores
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You're really stretching it to say he would be called the mighty God, and everlasting Father, but not be the mighty God or everlasting Father.
Yes, God is a Spirit, and he didn't have blood to shed for man's sins, so he took on a fleshly body. That doesn't mean God turned into a man. He veiled himself in a fleshly body.
The question is who was it that was in that body?
God was in the Messiah, reconciling the world to himself.
The fullness of the Godhead dwelt in him bodily.
He said, the Father that dwelleth in me he does the works.
If you have seen me you have seen the Father.
Isn't it that the words of God is like food? Food for our souls?
Deuteronomy 8:3 New International Version (NIV)
He humbled you, causing you to hunger and then feeding you with manna, which neither you nor your ancestors had known, to teach you that man does not live on bread alone but on every word that comes from the mouth of the Lord. Matthew 4:4 [URL='https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+4:4&version=NIV']Luke 4:4[/URL]
When we read verses we should understand it [chew it, digest it like food] we just don't blurt it out indiscriminately but rather examine it because it is important - and that is not stretching.
So to continue....
1 Timothy 3:16 God was manifest in the flesh.
I think it would be better to reveal the whole context of the verse than have it declared in a short form. It is like calling a person "Pssssttt!" when the person has a given name.
1 Timothy 3:16 New International Version (NIV)
Beyond all question, the mystery from which true godliness springs is great:
He appeared in the flesh,
was vindicated by the Spirit,
was seen by angels,
was preached among the nations,
was believed on in the world,
was taken up in glory.
- where is God was manifest in the flesh? That is the problem when people jump to conclusion and replace the verse with a misleading banner that 1 Tim 3:16 reads God was manifest in the flesh but when it shown fully the tag line disappears.
Here it is written "true godliness is great" What is godliness in its definition?
noun: godliness
the quality of being devoutly religious; piety.
So godliness is different from who is God. The Lord Jesus Christ came from God as he mentioned it in:
John 16:25-27 New International Version (NIV)
“Though I have been speaking figuratively, a time is coming when I will no longer use this kind of language but will tell you plainly about my Father. In that day you will ask in my name. I am not saying that I will ask the Father on your behalf. No, the Father himself loves you because you have loved me and have believed that I came from God.
When the Lord Jesus Christ said he came from God, he really mean that he is not God otherwise he would not mention "I came from God" based on the verse above.