Is masturbating bad at all ?

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The inability to see another person as a person is most definitely a major factor, and, if it needs to be said, nothing to do with masturbation. Other major factors include state corruption, poverty, lack of opportunity, and so on, but not masturbation. The notion that it arises from people wanking is one of the daftest ideas I’ve ever come across. Please provide at least one source that you feel lends some credence to that idea.

It's a big factor. Self-control is a big factor. Honoring sexual organs is a big factor. Without those, there is no hope in ending the demand and supply.

 

[Tomef]

If you are that interested, you can go do the research. You will find academics dismiss the views and you will find people supporting it. I'm saying there is a battle field regarding this because it's not a simple issue. And it can include politicians being part of what is hiding the truth of this - they being somewhat involved.

If you have something you found convincing re masturbation and human trafficking you can post it. I suspect however you are just making this up. Probably you formed that idea and dug up something that you feel supports it, to try and provide your point, but it isn’t something that would appear in a credible publication.

 

[Tomef]

It's a big factor. Self-control is a big factor. Honoring sexual organs is a big factor. Without those, there is no hope in ending the demand and supply.

It is a perfectly natural thing to have all kinds of sexual experiences without there being any ‘trafficking’ or other use of people involved. Only the religious are so dull-minded as to confuse their obsessions about sex with the treatment of others as objects.

 

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in a credible publication.

This is what I mean. Natives complain that "credible" is part of what is used to dismiss them. A long time ago natives would say about mass graves in school but were dismissed as "not credible" till they were found and exposed.

I believe in the natives claims and sources over the Taghut and Jibt apparatus.

 

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It is a perfectly natural thing to have all kinds of sexual experiences without there being any ‘trafficking’ or other use of people involved

You are misconstruing what I'm saying. But whatever, l'll let you have the last post on this. I won't be replying to you anymore.

 

[Tomef]

This is what I mean. Natives complain that "credible" is part of what is used to dismiss them. A long time ago natives would say about mass graves in school but were dismissed as "not credible" till they were found and exposed.

I believe in the natives claims and sources over the Taghut and Jibt apparatus.

Ok, so what is it? What is you read that convinced you there is some link?

 

[We Never Know]

It is a perfectly natural thing to have all kinds of sexual experiences without there being any ‘trafficking’ or other use of people involved. Only the religious are so dull-minded as to confuse their obsessions about sex with the treatment of others as objects.

What do you mean by "other use of people involved"?

If one masterbates to videos of others, thoughts of others, pictures of others, seeing others, etc is that not using other people to masterbate?

 

[metis]

Sometimes I even talk to my own and say "I really have to hand it to you".

 

[Tomef]

What do you mean by "other use of people involved"?

If one masterbates to videos of others, thoughts of others, pictures of others, seeing others, etc is that not using other people to masterbate?

If you can’t get the meaning from the context, there’s no point in responding to you.

 

[We Never Know]

If you can’t get the meaning from the context, there’s no point in responding to you.

If you can't be clear with your context, don't be surprised when you are called out to clarify it.

 

[We Never Know]

Sometimes I even talk to my own and say "I really have to hand it to you".

I remember the stranger scene in 'Gone in Sixty Seconds' lol

 

[Tomef]

If you cant' be clear with your context, don't be surprised when you are called out to clarify it.

There’s nothing unclear about it. Just a typical tactic of the religious, looking for holes because you already think you are right. A proper approach is to first understand.

 

[Tomef]

This is what I mean. Natives complain that "credible" is part of what is used to dismiss them. A long time ago natives would say about mass graves in school but were dismissed as "not credible" till they were found and exposed.

I believe in the natives claims and sources over the Taghut and Jibt apparatus.

What does this have to do with masturbation leading to human trafficking?

 

[Alien826]

It is a perfectly natural thing to have all kinds of sexual experiences without there being any ‘trafficking’ or other use of people involved. Only the religious are so dull-minded as to confuse their obsessions about sex with the treatment of others as objects.

If it's any help, I've masturbated regularly from the age of 14 and still do at the age of 83 and I've never once engaged in human trafficking. Difficult to believe I know, but true.

 

[Alien826]

What do you mean by "other use of people involved"?

If one masterbates to videos of others, thoughts of others, pictures of others, seeing others, etc is that not using other people to masterbate?

No, it's the use of pictures etc to masturbate. Those that allowed themselves to be filmed were paid I assume and that implies permission to use the pictures.

 

[We Never Know]

No, it's the use of pictures etc to masturbate. Those that allowed themselves to be filmed were paid I assume and that implies permission to use the pictures.

Yes. Pictures and video of 'other people'

I doubt they use pictures of trees, birds, etc. but who knows how twisted some people may be.

 

[Spiderman]

I went 3 years without drinking a beer. I was on a beer fast. I would have never thought a beer could taste so damn great, but it did ... a single Coor's light after a 3 year fast was the absolute best beer I've ever had in my entire 53 year old life. I do the same with ribeye steaks and sometimes soda pop.

What?

We get your point. Chastity, purity of soul is also beautiful in the eyes of God and especially women who can read hearts and souls. They can detect a pornography addict or excessive masturbator with their maternal protective female intuition.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

The debate on the internet rages on so I will bring the discussion here I personally don't think that it's bad as long as you don't hurt your private part by doing to much or being to ruff or not peeing before hand. Also what you are masturbating to is important because there's a lot of evil and sick things out there.\

Quick question: does it make you feel guilty or dirty to wrestle your own natural urges into submission?

 

[Balthazzar]

We get your point. Chastity, purity of soul is also beautiful in the eyes of God and especially women who can read hearts and souls. They can detect a pornography addict or excessive masturbator with their maternal protective female intuition.

It's not about purity of soul, or for God. It is about savor, appreciation, and mind shattering earthquakes, minus desperation and lust. Strange thing desire. Yes, it's a wicked game, but you know how that goes.

 

[Alien826]

Quick question: does it make you feel guilty or dirty to wrestle your own natural urges into submission?

I tried to wrestle my natural urges but they kept winning, so I don't resist them any more.

Seriously, there are people who fight against life and those that embrace it. I'm wholeheartedly in the latter group, but if the former don't try to tell me what to do I don't tell them.