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Is Quran copied from Jewish Bible/Torah? : Quran did not copy from Jewish Bible/Torah

paarsurrey

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Is Quran copied from Jewish Bible/Torah? : Quran did not copy from Jewish Bible/Torah

The Holy Quran : Chapter 72: Al-Jinn [3]

[72:21]Say, ‘I pray to my Lord only, and I associate no one with Him.’
[72:22]Say, ‘I have no power to do you either harm or good.’
[72:23]Say, ‘Surely none can protect me against Allah, nor can I find any place of refuge beside Him.
[72:24]‘My responsibility isonly to conveythe revelationfrom Allah, and His Messages.’ And for those who disobey Allah and His Messenger there is the fire of Hell, wherein they will abide for a long, long period.
[72:25]They will continue to disbelieveuntil they see that which they are promised, and soon they will know who is weaker in helpers and fewer in numbers.
[72:26]Say, ‘I know not whether that which you are promised is nigh or whether my Lord has fixed for it a distant term.’
[72:27]He is theKnower of the unseen; and He reveals not His secrets to any one,
[72:28]Except to him whom He chooses, namely a Messengerof His. And then He causes an escortof guarding angelsto go before him and behind him,
[72:29]That He may know that they (His Messengers) have delivered the Messages of their Lord. And He encompassesallthat is with them and He keeps count of all things.

http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=72&verse=21


Please prove that the above verses have been copied/plagiarized/adapted from Jewish Bible/Torah or any other religious revealed scripture in the world by quoting from that book, the reference and providing the link.
Just impossible to do it.
Quran is authored by G-d, it is the reality.

In terms of the notion "Koran dated to before Muhamad birth."and some of the pseudo scholars also , link provided by the poster, saying this. Since Muhammad could not have plagiarized Quran from the old scriptures before his own birth, it must be thrashed out by the said pseudo-scholars, pseudo-history and the pseudo-science all together evidencing on top-priority as to from which old scriptures Muhammad recited the above verses verbatim.

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mahasn ebn sawresho

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Sure it is the word of G-d.
Regards
I wish you to leave intolerance and speak mind
Al-Jinn are the words of Gin Gin is between dialogue
These spies on the words of God
Gin and a new genus
They do not belong to the demons
But they Lesolle of humans
And also to Aantamon to Angels
Do you believe in this superstition , my friend
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

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Leaving Taxila, Jesus, Mary and Thomas travelled on towards Kashmir; but Mary was not to experience the so-called "Heaven on Earth".
Not being able to bear the hardships of the long journey, Mary died at what is now the small town of Murree, which was named in honour of her (5) and is situated about forty miles from Taxila and thirty from Rawalpindi. The place where she is buried is known as Pindi Point, and the sepulchre itself is called Mai Mari da Asthan, meaning "resting place of Mother Mary". According to Jewish custom, the tomb is oriented east¬west, as are the tombs of Jesus and Moses (discussed later). This contrasts with the customary orientation of Moslem tombs, which is north-south.”
Andreas Faber-Kaiser. Jesus Died in Kahmir. Gordon and Cremonesi, 1977. Page 82-83.
Andreas Faber-Kaiser is not a Muslim.
Regards
You destroy Islam and the Koran crash
It is the Koran the word of God
He did not speak about it
Why the Koran did not write anything about this information ?
The Koran is the book in which lie ??
Or that your information is not correct
You have to choose
Whichever is more known master Mohammed Mirza
Or the Koran and Mohammed ???
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
Sure it is the word of G-d.
Regards
where are you
Do you believe that the jinn speak ??
Do you think that ants speak
Do you think that speaks *** ??
If you are Muslim, you must know the story of the donkey Yafour ?
And how this *** spoke with Mohammed ?????
it is your books , which provided us with a novel dialogue between Muhammad and his donkey Yafour ???
Send my words until you know the size of superstition in Islam
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
If the Christians/Jews/Zoroastrians/Atheists etc, any of them had anything similar to what have been given in Post #1123 & #1141 to copy from , if they have not then they are off-topic here. Right?
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paarsurrey

Veteran Member
where are you
Do you believe that the jinn speak ??
Do you think that ants speak
Do you think that speaks *** ??
If you are Muslim, you must know the story of the donkey Yafour ?
And how this *** spoke with Mohammed ?????
it is your books , which provided us with a novel dialogue between Muhammad and his donkey Yafour ???
Send my words until you know the size of superstition in Islam

The Jinns, mentioned in the verses 72:1-3 are not whom the English called the genies.Please see following notes:

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http://www.alislam.org/quran/tafseer/?page=2696&region=E1&CR=EN,E2&CR=EN,E2
Please be clear.
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paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Quran did not copy from Torah.
Among many things one aspect of Quran is that it is a critical treatise of Torah, highlighting merits and demerits of the people who follow/ed it for improving their ethical, moral and spiritual lot and guiding them to the truthful path of Moses and other prophets.

A good criticism[edit]

Ideally, a criticism should be:
  • timely, not too early nor too late.
  • brief and succinct, with a clear start and a finish, not endless.
  • relevant and to the point, not misplaced.
  • clear, specific and precise, not vague.
  • well-researched, not based on hear-say or speculative thought.
  • sincere and positively intended, not malicious.
  • articulate, persuasive and actionable, so that the recipient can both understand the criticism and be motivated to act on the message.[5][6]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism

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paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Is Quran copied from Jewish Bible/Torah? : Quran did not copy from Jewish Bible/Torah

I have so far quoted following 45 full chapters from Quran in these threads:[Summary]

72. Al-Jinn,73. Al-Muzzammil,74. Al-Muddaththir 75.Al-Qiyamah,76.Al-Dahr,77.Al-Mursalat,78.Al-Naba'79. Al-Nazi`at,80. `Abasa,81. Al-Takwir,82. Al-Infitar, 83. Al-Tatfif,84. Al-Inshiqaq,85. Al-Buruj,86. Al-Tariq,87. Al-A`la,88. Al-Ghashiyah,89. Al-Fajr,90. Al-Balad,91. Al-Shams,92. Al-Lail,93. Al-Duha,94. Al-Inshirah,95. Al-Tin,96. Al-`Alaq,97. Al-Qadr,98. Al-Bayyinah,99. Al-Zilzal,100. Al-`Adiyat,101. Al-Qari`ah,102. Al-Takathur,103. Al-`Asr,104. Al-Humazah,105. Al-Fil,106. Al-Quraish,107. Al-Ma`un,108. Al-Kauthar,109. Al-Kafirun,110. Al-Nasr,111. Al-Lahab,112. Al-Ikhlas,113. Al-Falaq,114. Al-Nas,1. Al-Fatihah.3.Aal-e-`Imran,14. Ibrahim.]

Our Jewish (or non-Jewish) friends have not been able to quote or reference places of Torah where verses of these forty five Quranic chapters have been copied/plagiarized/adapted from.

There being 114 Surahs/chapters in Quran. Number-wise this makes more than 1/3 of Quran.

In terms of the notion "Koran dated to before Muhamad birth. " and some of the pseudo scholars also , link also provided by the poster, saying this; since Muhammad could not have plagiarized Quran from the old scriptures before his own birth, it must be thrashed out by the said pseudo-scholars, pseudo-history and the pseudo-science all together evidencing on top-priority as to from which old scriptures Muhammad recited the above verses verbatim.

We can therefore conclude with 100% certainty that 0% of verses of these chapters of Quran have been copied/plagiarized/adapted from Torah or any other scripture.
Quran is, therefore, the Word Revealed from G-d and authored by Him and is original.

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paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Quran's criticism of Meccans, Christians and Jews etc was timely, to the point, clear,specific, precise, sincere , positively intended and articulate.
Regards
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Our Jewish (or non-Jewish) friends have not been able to quote or reference places of Torah where verses of these forty five Quranic chapters have been copied/plagiarized/adapted from.
Regards
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
I wish you to leave intolerance and speak mind
Al-Jinn are the words of Gin Gin is between dialogue
These spies on the words of God
Gin and a new genus
They do not belong to the demons
But they Lesolle of humans
And also to Aantamon to Angels
Do you believe in this superstition , my friend
I don't believe in any superstition. You are simly wrong.
Regards
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
I don't believe in any superstition. You are simly wrong.
Regards
Explain to us Al-Jinn
Who is speaking ???
They Gin
Speak
So is not the word of God

These verses confirm that Al-Jinn myths
To be able to provide a definition to the jinn ??
And how their words written in the Koran ??
But the word of the jinnI have seen the sky Fujdnaha filled with strong guards and Shahba

I sit them seats we were hearing it listens now finds his flare monitoring
 

psychoslice

Veteran Member
Of course they copied from the Torah, you can see it in their scripture, as you also see in the Christians scripture, they take from what they want and call it their own.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Is Quran copied from Jewish Bible/Torah? : Quran did not copy from Jewish Bible/Torah

The Holy Quran : Chapter 71: Nooh [1]

[71:1]In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful.
[71:2]We sent Noah to his people,saying, ‘Warn thy people before there comes upon them a grievous punishment.’
[71:3]He said, ‘O my people! surely I am a plain Warner unto you,
[71:4]‘That you serve Allah and fear Him and obey me.
[71:5]‘He will forgive you your sins and grant you respite till an appointed time. Verily the time appointed by Allah cannot be put back when it comes, if only you knew!’
[71:6]He said, “My Lord, I have called my people night and day,
[71:7]“But my callingthemhas only made them fleefrom meall the more.
[71:8]“And every time I called them that Thou mightest forgive them, they put their fingers into their ears, and covered up their hearts, and persistedin their iniquity, and were disdainfully proud.
[71:9]“Then, I called themto righteousnessopenly.
[71:10]“Then I preached to them in public, andalsospoke to them in private.

http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=71&verse=0

Please prove that the above verses have been copied/plagiarized/adapted from Jewish Bible/Torah or any other religious revealed scripture in the world by quoting from that book, the reference and providing the link.
Just impossible to do it.
Quran is authored by G-d, it is the reality.

In terms of the notion "Koran dated to before Muhamad birth."and some of the pseudo scholars also , link provided by the poster, saying this. Since Muhammad could not have plagiarized Quran from the old scriptures before his own birth, it must be thrashed out by the said pseudo-scholars, pseudo-history and the pseudo-science all together evidencing on top-priority as to from which old scriptures Muhammad recited the above verses verbatim.

Regards
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Of course they copied from the Torah, you can see it in their scripture, as you also see in the Christians scripture, they take from what they want and call it their own.
If you mean that Quran copied from Torah, then please quote from Torah and Quran the relevant passages. For easy reference one may start quoting post by post from this thread, almost every page in this thread has 10 verses of Quran starting from post #19 to post #1155. Please give the relevant passage from Torah against every passage of Quran.
We are ears for you.
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paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Explain to us Al-Jinn
Who is speaking ???
They Gin
Speak
So is not the word of God
These verses confirm that Al-Jinn myths
To be able to provide a definition to the jinn ??
And how their words written in the Koran ??
But the word of the jinnI have seen the sky Fujdnaha filled with strong guards and Shahba
I sit them seats we were hearing it listens now finds his flare monitoring

For Al-Jinn please read post #1146 above for correct understanding.
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