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Is Quran copied from Jewish Bible/Torah? : Quran did not copy from Jewish Bible/Torah
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Jabar
“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
@paarsurrey Brother, this is for all the people on this forum to see. I am not just directing it to him. If it annoys you though, then sorry brother i will address it to a person.
paarsurrey
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One should mention the primary addressee, anybody could respond, however.
It is just and advice for convenience.
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paarsurrey
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Is Quran copied from Jewish Bible/Torah? : Quran did not copy from Jewish Bible/Torah
The Holy Quran : Chapter 62: Al-Jumu`ah [2]
[62:11]And when the Prayer is finished, then disperse in the land and seek of Allah’s grace, and remember Allah much, that you may prosper.
[62:12]But when they see some merchandise or some amusement, they break up for it, and leave thee standing. Say, ‘That which is with Allah is better than amusement and merchandise, and Allah is the Best Provider.’
http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=62&verse=11
Please prove that the above verses have been copied/plagiarized/adapted from Jewish Bible/Torah or any other religious revealed scripture in the world by quoting from that book, the reference and providing the link.
Just impossible to do it.
Quran is authored by G-d, it is the reality.
In terms of the notion "Koran dated to before Muhamad birth."and some of the pseudo scholars also , link provided by the poster, saying this. Since Muhammad could not have plagiarized Quran from the old scriptures before his own birth, it must be thrashed out by the said pseudo-scholars, pseudo-history and the pseudo-science all together evidencing on top-priority as to from which old scriptures Muhammad recited the above verses verbatim.
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The Holy Quran : Chapter 62: Al-Jumu`ah [2]
[62:11]And when the Prayer is finished, then disperse in the land and seek of Allah’s grace, and remember Allah much, that you may prosper.
[62:12]But when they see some merchandise or some amusement, they break up for it, and leave thee standing. Say, ‘That which is with Allah is better than amusement and merchandise, and Allah is the Best Provider.’
http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=62&verse=11
Please prove that the above verses have been copied/plagiarized/adapted from Jewish Bible/Torah or any other religious revealed scripture in the world by quoting from that book, the reference and providing the link.
Just impossible to do it.
Quran is authored by G-d, it is the reality.
In terms of the notion "Koran dated to before Muhamad birth."and some of the pseudo scholars also , link provided by the poster, saying this. Since Muhammad could not have plagiarized Quran from the old scriptures before his own birth, it must be thrashed out by the said pseudo-scholars, pseudo-history and the pseudo-science all together evidencing on top-priority as to from which old scriptures Muhammad recited the above verses verbatim.
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Jabar
“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
I will take it into consideration. @paarsurrey
paarsurrey
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One could go to the edit button on left side (that is available for a day or for twenty four hours only) of the post and then make the corrections , whatever, if needed.
Just an advice , please.
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Jabar
“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
Thanks. @paarsurrey
paarsurrey
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Your are always welcome.
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rosends
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it was your claim. you do your own work.
Jabar
“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
@rosends Complete proof through science that Islam is truth and it could never have been copied:
In the Holy Quran, God speaks about the stages of man’s embryonic development:
We created man from an extract of clay. Then We made him as a drop in a place of settlement, firmly fixed. Then We made the drop into an alaqah (leech, suspended thing, and blood clot), then We made the alaqahinto a mudghah (chewed substance)...
1(Quran, 23:12-14)
Literally, the Arabic word alaqah has three meanings: (1) leech, (2) suspended thing, and (3) blood clot.
In comparing a leech to an embryo in the alaqah stage, we find similarity between the two2 as we can see in figure 1. Also, the embryo at this stage obtains nourishment from the blood of the mother, similar to the leech, which feeds on the blood of others.3
Figure 1: Drawings illustrating the similarities in appearance between a leech and a human embryo at thealaqah stage. (Leech drawing from Human Development as Described in the Quran and Sunnah, Moore and others, p. 37, modified from Integrated Principles of Zoology, Hickman and others. Embryo drawing from The Developing Human, Moore and Persaud, 5th ed., p. 73.)
The second meaning of the word alaqah is “suspended thing.” This is what we can see in figures 2 and 3, the suspension of the embryo, during the alaqah stage, in the womb of the mother.
Figure 2: We can see in this diagram the suspension of an embryo during the alaqah stage in the womb (uterus) of the mother. (The Developing Human, Moore and Persaud, 5th ed., p. 66.) (Click on the image to enlarge it.)
Figure 3: In this photomicrograph, we can see the suspension of an embryo (marked B) during the alaqah stage (about 15 days old) in the womb of the mother. The actual size of the embryo is about 0.6 mm. (The Developing Human, Moore, 3rd ed., p. 66, from Histology, Leeson and Leeson.)
The third meaning of the word alaqah is “blood clot.” We find that the external appearance of the embryo and its sacs during the alaqah stage is similar to that of a blood clot. This is due to the presence of relatively large amounts of blood present in the embryo during this stage4 (see figure 4). Also during this stage, the blood in the embryo does not circulate until the end of the third week.5 Thus, the embryo at this stage is like a clot of blood.
Figure 4: Diagram of the primitive cardiovascular system in an embryo during the alaqah stage. The external appearance of the embryo and its sacs is similar to that of a blood clot, due to the presence of relatively large amounts of blood present in the embryo. (The Developing Human, Moore, 5th ed., p. 65.) (Click on the image to enlarge it.)
So the three meanings of the word alaqah correspond accurately to the descriptions of the embryo at the alaqahstage.
The next stage mentioned in the verse is the mudghahstage. The Arabic word mudghah means “chewed substance.” If one were to take a piece of gum and chew it in his or her mouth and then compare it with an embryo at the mudghah stage, we would conclude that the embryo at the mudghah stage acquires the appearance of a chewed substance. This is because of the somites at the back of the embryo that “somewhat resemble teethmarks in a chewed substance.”6 (see figures 5 and 6).
Figure 5: Photograph of an embryo at themudghah stage (28 days old). The embryo at this stage acquires the appearance of a chewed substance, because the somites at the back of the embryo somewhat resemble teeth marks in a chewed substance. The actual size of the embryo is 4 mm. (The Developing Human, Moore and Persaud, 5th ed., p. 82, from Professor Hideo Nishimura, Kyoto University, Kyoto, Japan.)
Figure 6: When comparing the appearance of an embryo at themudghah stage with a piece of gum that has been chewed, we find similarity between the two.
A) Drawing of an embryo at the mudghah stage. We can see here the somites at the back of the embryo that look like teeth marks. (The Developing Human, Moore and Persaud, 5th ed., p. 79.)
B) Photograph of a piece of gum that has been chewed.
(Click on the image to enlarge it.)
How could Muhammad
have possibly known all this 1400 years ago, when scientists have only recently discovered this using advanced equipment and powerful microscopes which did not exist at that time? Hamm and Leeuwenhoek were the first scientists to observe human sperm cells (spermatozoa) using an improved microscope in 1677 (more than 1000 years after Muhammad
). They mistakenly thought that the sperm cell contained a miniature preformed human being that grew when it was deposited in the female genital tract.7
Figure 10: A new star forming out of a cloud of gas and dust (nebula), which is one of the remnants of the ‘smoke’ that was the origin of the whole universe. (The Space Atlas, Heather and Henbest, p. 50.)
View full at @ http://www.islam-guide.com/ch1-1-f.htm
In the Holy Quran, God speaks about the stages of man’s embryonic development:
Literally, the Arabic word alaqah has three meanings: (1) leech, (2) suspended thing, and (3) blood clot.
In comparing a leech to an embryo in the alaqah stage, we find similarity between the two2 as we can see in figure 1. Also, the embryo at this stage obtains nourishment from the blood of the mother, similar to the leech, which feeds on the blood of others.3
Figure 1: Drawings illustrating the similarities in appearance between a leech and a human embryo at thealaqah stage. (Leech drawing from Human Development as Described in the Quran and Sunnah, Moore and others, p. 37, modified from Integrated Principles of Zoology, Hickman and others. Embryo drawing from The Developing Human, Moore and Persaud, 5th ed., p. 73.)
The second meaning of the word alaqah is “suspended thing.” This is what we can see in figures 2 and 3, the suspension of the embryo, during the alaqah stage, in the womb of the mother.
Figure 2: We can see in this diagram the suspension of an embryo during the alaqah stage in the womb (uterus) of the mother. (The Developing Human, Moore and Persaud, 5th ed., p. 66.) (Click on the image to enlarge it.)
Figure 3: In this photomicrograph, we can see the suspension of an embryo (marked B) during the alaqah stage (about 15 days old) in the womb of the mother. The actual size of the embryo is about 0.6 mm. (The Developing Human, Moore, 3rd ed., p. 66, from Histology, Leeson and Leeson.)
The third meaning of the word alaqah is “blood clot.” We find that the external appearance of the embryo and its sacs during the alaqah stage is similar to that of a blood clot. This is due to the presence of relatively large amounts of blood present in the embryo during this stage4 (see figure 4). Also during this stage, the blood in the embryo does not circulate until the end of the third week.5 Thus, the embryo at this stage is like a clot of blood.
Figure 4: Diagram of the primitive cardiovascular system in an embryo during the alaqah stage. The external appearance of the embryo and its sacs is similar to that of a blood clot, due to the presence of relatively large amounts of blood present in the embryo. (The Developing Human, Moore, 5th ed., p. 65.) (Click on the image to enlarge it.)
So the three meanings of the word alaqah correspond accurately to the descriptions of the embryo at the alaqahstage.
The next stage mentioned in the verse is the mudghahstage. The Arabic word mudghah means “chewed substance.” If one were to take a piece of gum and chew it in his or her mouth and then compare it with an embryo at the mudghah stage, we would conclude that the embryo at the mudghah stage acquires the appearance of a chewed substance. This is because of the somites at the back of the embryo that “somewhat resemble teethmarks in a chewed substance.”6 (see figures 5 and 6).
Figure 5: Photograph of an embryo at themudghah stage (28 days old). The embryo at this stage acquires the appearance of a chewed substance, because the somites at the back of the embryo somewhat resemble teeth marks in a chewed substance. The actual size of the embryo is 4 mm. (The Developing Human, Moore and Persaud, 5th ed., p. 82, from Professor Hideo Nishimura, Kyoto University, Kyoto, Japan.)
Figure 6: When comparing the appearance of an embryo at themudghah stage with a piece of gum that has been chewed, we find similarity between the two.
A) Drawing of an embryo at the mudghah stage. We can see here the somites at the back of the embryo that look like teeth marks. (The Developing Human, Moore and Persaud, 5th ed., p. 79.)
B) Photograph of a piece of gum that has been chewed.
(Click on the image to enlarge it.)
How could Muhammad
Figure 10: A new star forming out of a cloud of gas and dust (nebula), which is one of the remnants of the ‘smoke’ that was the origin of the whole universe. (The Space Atlas, Heather and Henbest, p. 50.)
View full at @ http://www.islam-guide.com/ch1-1-f.htm
paarsurrey
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One knows that most of the Ten Commandments are said to plagiarized from the Laws of Hammurabi:
"Wright demonstrates that the Covenant Code of Exodus 20-23, which is part of the revelation of Mt. Sinai , was in effect borrowed from the Laws of Hammurabi, an ancient Babylonian text. From literary clues, Wright has been able to determine that the code was copied into Israelite records during the Babylonian exile of 740-640 BCE, long after the time of Moses. “The study offers significant new evidence demonstrating that a model of literary dependence is the only viable explanation for the work. … This analysis shows that the Covenant Code is primarily a creative academic work rather than a repository of laws practiced by Israelites or Judeans over the course of their history … and explores how this may relate to the development of the Pentateuch as a whole.”
"Did Moses Copy Hammurabi’s 10 Commandments?"
https://mormonheretic.org/2009/08/22/did-moses-copy-hammurabis-10-commandments-2/
Does one needs its detail?
Quran is G-d's Word, in original, pristine and secure."Did Moses Copy Hammurabi’s 10 Commandments?"
https://mormonheretic.org/2009/08/22/did-moses-copy-hammurabis-10-commandments-2/
Does one needs its detail?
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rosends
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so in other words, your post making a claim against what I wrote is unsubstantiated. thank you for clarifying your lack of position.
paarsurrey
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Is Quran copied from Jewish Bible/Torah? : Quran did not copy from Jewish Bible/Torah
The Holy Quran : Chapter 61: Al-Saff [1]
[61:1]In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful.
[61:2]Whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth glorifies Allah; and He is the Mighty, the Wise.
[61:3]O ye who believe! why do you say what you do not do?
[61:4]Most hateful is it in the sight of Allah that you say what you do not do.
[61:5]Verily, Allah loves those who fight in His cause arrayed insolidranks, as though they were astrongstructure cemented withmoltenlead.
[61:6]Andrememberwhen Moses said to his people, ‘O my people, why do you vex and slander me and you know that I am Allah’s Messenger unto you?’ So when they deviatedfrom the right course, Allah caused their hearts to deviate, for Allah guides not the rebellious people.
[61:7]Andrememberwhen Jesus, son of Mary, said, ‘O children of Israel, surely I am Allah’s Messenger unto you, fulfilling that which is before me of the Torah, and giving glad tidings of a Messenger who will come after me. His name will be Ahmad.’ And when he came to them with clear proofs, they said, ‘This is clear enchantment.’
[61:8]But who could do greater wrong than one who forges the lie against Allah while he is called to Islam? Allah guides not the wrongdoing people.
[61:9]They desire to extinguish the light of Allah withthe breath oftheir mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hateit.
[61:10]He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partnerswith Godhateit.
http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=61
Please prove that the above verses have been copied/plagiarized/adapted from Jewish Bible/Torah or any other religious revealed scripture in the world by quoting from that book, the reference and providing the link.
Just impossible to do it.
Quran is authored by G-d, it is the reality.
In terms of the notion "Koran dated to before Muhamad birth."and some of the pseudo scholars also , link provided by the poster, saying this. Since Muhammad could not have plagiarized Quran from the old scriptures before his own birth, it must be thrashed out by the said pseudo-scholars, pseudo-history and the pseudo-science all together evidencing on top-priority as to from which old scriptures Muhammad recited the above verses verbatim.
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The Holy Quran : Chapter 61: Al-Saff [1]
[61:1]In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful.
[61:2]Whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth glorifies Allah; and He is the Mighty, the Wise.
[61:3]O ye who believe! why do you say what you do not do?
[61:4]Most hateful is it in the sight of Allah that you say what you do not do.
[61:5]Verily, Allah loves those who fight in His cause arrayed insolidranks, as though they were astrongstructure cemented withmoltenlead.
[61:6]Andrememberwhen Moses said to his people, ‘O my people, why do you vex and slander me and you know that I am Allah’s Messenger unto you?’ So when they deviatedfrom the right course, Allah caused their hearts to deviate, for Allah guides not the rebellious people.
[61:7]Andrememberwhen Jesus, son of Mary, said, ‘O children of Israel, surely I am Allah’s Messenger unto you, fulfilling that which is before me of the Torah, and giving glad tidings of a Messenger who will come after me. His name will be Ahmad.’ And when he came to them with clear proofs, they said, ‘This is clear enchantment.’
[61:8]But who could do greater wrong than one who forges the lie against Allah while he is called to Islam? Allah guides not the wrongdoing people.
[61:9]They desire to extinguish the light of Allah withthe breath oftheir mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hateit.
[61:10]He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partnerswith Godhateit.
http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=61
Please prove that the above verses have been copied/plagiarized/adapted from Jewish Bible/Torah or any other religious revealed scripture in the world by quoting from that book, the reference and providing the link.
Just impossible to do it.
Quran is authored by G-d, it is the reality.
In terms of the notion "Koran dated to before Muhamad birth."and some of the pseudo scholars also , link provided by the poster, saying this. Since Muhammad could not have plagiarized Quran from the old scriptures before his own birth, it must be thrashed out by the said pseudo-scholars, pseudo-history and the pseudo-science all together evidencing on top-priority as to from which old scriptures Muhammad recited the above verses verbatim.
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paarsurrey
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Please prove Quran verses [61:1] to [61:10] given in post #1613 have been copied/plagiarized/adapted from Jewish Bible/Torah or any other religious revealed scripture in the world by quoting from that book, the reference and providing the link.
Anybody from any religion or no religion, please.
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Anybody from any religion or no religion, please.
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paarsurrey
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rosends
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You are the one who responded to my post. If you suddenly don't know what you were responding to, then look through your posts. I know what I said. The burden is on you to substantiate your claim against what I wrote.
paarsurrey
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Is Quran copied from Jewish Bible/Torah? : Quran did not copy from Jewish Bible/Torah
I have so far quoted following 54 full chapters from Quran in these threads:[Summary]
63. Al-Munafiqun 64. Al-Taghabun 65. Al-Talaq 66. Al-Tahrim 67. Al-Mulk 68. Al-Qalam 69. Al-Haqqah 70. Al-Ma`arij 71. Nooh 72. Al-Jinn 73. Al-Muzzammil 74. Al-Muddaththir 75. Al-Qiyamah 76. Al-Dahr 77. Al-Mursalat 78. Al-Naba' 79. Al-Nazi`at 80. `Abasa 81. Al-Takwir 82. Al-Infitar 83. Al-Tatfif 84. Al-Inshiqaq 85. Al-Buruj 86. Al-Tariq 87. Al-A`la 88. Al-Ghashiyah 89. Al-Fajr 90. Al-Balad
91. Al-Shams 92. Al-Lail 93.Al-Duha 94. Al-Inshirah 95. Al-Tin 96. Al-`Alaq 97. Al-Qadr 98. Al-Bayyinah 99. Al-Zilzal 100. Al-`Adiyat 101. Al-Qari`ah 102. Al-Takathur 103. Al-`Asr 104. Al-Humazah 105. Al-Fil 106.Al-Quraish 107. Al-Ma`un 108. Al-Kauthar 109. Al-Kafirun 110. Al-Nasr 111. Al-Lahab 112. Al-Ikhlas 113. Al-Falaq 114. Al-Nas 1. Al-Fatihah. 3. Aal-e-`Imran 14. Ibrahim
Our Jewish (or non-Jewish) friends have not been able to quote or reference places of Torah where verses of these fifty four Quranic chapters have been copied/plagiarized/adapted from.
There being 114 Surahs/chapters in Quran. Number-wise this makes more than 1/3 of Quran.
In terms of the notion "Koran dated to before Muhamad birth. " and some of the pseudo scholars also , link also provided by the poster, saying this; since Muhammad could not have plagiarized Quran from the old scriptures before his own birth, it must be thrashed out by the said pseudo-scholars, pseudo-history and the pseudo-science all together evidencing on top-priority as to from which old scriptures Muhammad recited the above verses verbatim.
We can therefore conclude with 100% certainty that 0% of verses of these chapters of Quran have been copied/plagiarized/adapted from Torah or any other scripture.
Quran is, therefore, the Word Revealed from G-d and authored by Him and is original.
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#1480
I have so far quoted following 54 full chapters from Quran in these threads:[Summary]
63. Al-Munafiqun 64. Al-Taghabun 65. Al-Talaq 66. Al-Tahrim 67. Al-Mulk 68. Al-Qalam 69. Al-Haqqah 70. Al-Ma`arij 71. Nooh 72. Al-Jinn 73. Al-Muzzammil 74. Al-Muddaththir 75. Al-Qiyamah 76. Al-Dahr 77. Al-Mursalat 78. Al-Naba' 79. Al-Nazi`at 80. `Abasa 81. Al-Takwir 82. Al-Infitar 83. Al-Tatfif 84. Al-Inshiqaq 85. Al-Buruj 86. Al-Tariq 87. Al-A`la 88. Al-Ghashiyah 89. Al-Fajr 90. Al-Balad
Our Jewish (or non-Jewish) friends have not been able to quote or reference places of Torah where verses of these fifty four Quranic chapters have been copied/plagiarized/adapted from.
There being 114 Surahs/chapters in Quran. Number-wise this makes more than 1/3 of Quran.
In terms of the notion "Koran dated to before Muhamad birth. " and some of the pseudo scholars also , link also provided by the poster, saying this; since Muhammad could not have plagiarized Quran from the old scriptures before his own birth, it must be thrashed out by the said pseudo-scholars, pseudo-history and the pseudo-science all together evidencing on top-priority as to from which old scriptures Muhammad recited the above verses verbatim.
We can therefore conclude with 100% certainty that 0% of verses of these chapters of Quran have been copied/plagiarized/adapted from Torah or any other scripture.
Quran is, therefore, the Word Revealed from G-d and authored by Him and is original.
Regards
#1480
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
Is Quran copied from Jewish Bible/Torah? : Quran did not copy from Jewish Bible/Torah
The Holy Quran : Chapter 61: Al-Saff [2]
[61:11]O ye who believe! shall I point out to you a bargain that will save you from a painful punishment?
[61:12]That you believe in Allah and His Messenger, and strive in the cause of Allah with your wealth and your persons. That is better for you, if you did but know.
[61:13]He will forgive you your sins, and make you enter the Gardens through which streams flow, and pure and pleasant dwellings in Gardens of Eternity. That is the supreme triumph.
[61:14]AndHe will bestowanotherfavourwhich you love: help from Allah and a near victory. So give glad tidings to the believers.
[61:15]O ye who believe! be helpers of Allah, as said Jesus, son of Mary, tohisdisciples, ‘Who are my helpers inthe cause ofAllah.’ The disciples said, ‘We are helpers of Allah.’ So a party of the children of Israel believed, while a party disbelieved. Then We gave power to those who believed against their enemy, and they became victorious.
http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=61&verse=11
Please prove that the above verses have been copied/plagiarized/adapted from Jewish Bible/Torah or any other religious revealed scripture in the world by quoting from that book, the reference and providing the link.
Just impossible to do it.
Quran is authored by G-d, it is the reality.
In terms of the notion "Koran dated to before Muhamad birth."and some of the pseudo scholars also , link provided by the poster, saying this. Since Muhammad could not have plagiarized Quran from the old scriptures before his own birth, it must be thrashed out by the said pseudo-scholars, pseudo-history and the pseudo-science all together evidencing on top-priority as to from which old scriptures Muhammad recited the above verses verbatim.
Regards
The Holy Quran : Chapter 61: Al-Saff [2]
[61:11]O ye who believe! shall I point out to you a bargain that will save you from a painful punishment?
[61:12]That you believe in Allah and His Messenger, and strive in the cause of Allah with your wealth and your persons. That is better for you, if you did but know.
[61:13]He will forgive you your sins, and make you enter the Gardens through which streams flow, and pure and pleasant dwellings in Gardens of Eternity. That is the supreme triumph.
[61:14]AndHe will bestowanotherfavourwhich you love: help from Allah and a near victory. So give glad tidings to the believers.
[61:15]O ye who believe! be helpers of Allah, as said Jesus, son of Mary, tohisdisciples, ‘Who are my helpers inthe cause ofAllah.’ The disciples said, ‘We are helpers of Allah.’ So a party of the children of Israel believed, while a party disbelieved. Then We gave power to those who believed against their enemy, and they became victorious.
http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=61&verse=11
Please prove that the above verses have been copied/plagiarized/adapted from Jewish Bible/Torah or any other religious revealed scripture in the world by quoting from that book, the reference and providing the link.
Just impossible to do it.
Quran is authored by G-d, it is the reality.
In terms of the notion "Koran dated to before Muhamad birth."and some of the pseudo scholars also , link provided by the poster, saying this. Since Muhammad could not have plagiarized Quran from the old scriptures before his own birth, it must be thrashed out by the said pseudo-scholars, pseudo-history and the pseudo-science all together evidencing on top-priority as to from which old scriptures Muhammad recited the above verses verbatim.
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paarsurrey
Veteran Member
rosends
Well-Known Member
I have no idea what you are talking about.