Is Quran copied from Jewish Bible/Torah? : Quran did not copy from Jewish Bible/Torah

[paarsurrey]

Nobody could prove that verses [65:1] to[64:11]of The Holy Quran : Chapter 65: Al-Talaq on page 76 posted on Apr 4, 2016#1504 have been copied/plagiarized/adapted from Jewish Bible/Torah or any other religious revealed scripture in the world by quoting from that book, giving a reference and providing the link.
Just impossible to do it.
It is one aspect of the fact that Quran is authored by G-d .
Muhammad did not claim that he authored the Recitation/Quran.
G-d claimed its authorship and guaranteed its security all through the ages.
Right?
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Is Quran copied from Jewish Bible/Torah? : Quran did not copy from Jewish Bible/Torah

The Holy Quran : Chapter 57: Al-Hadid [1]

[57:1] In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful.
[57:2] Whatever is in the heavens and the earth glorifies Allah; and He is the Mighty, the Wise.
[57:3] His is the kingdom of the heavens and the earth; He gives life and He causes death; and He has power over all things.
[57:4] He is the First and the Last, and the Manifest and the Hidden, and He knows all things full well.
[57:5] He it is Who created the heavens and the earth in six periods, then He settled Himself on the Throne. He knows what enters the earth and what comes out of it, and what comes down from heaven and what goes up into it. And He is with you wheresoever you may be. And Allah sees all that you do.
[57:6] His is the kingdom of the heavens and the earth; and to Allah are all affairs referred.
[57:7] He causes the night to pass into the day and causes the day to pass into the night; and He knows full well all that is in the breasts.
[57:8] Believe in Allah and His Messenger, and spend in the way of Allah out of that to which He has made you heirs. And those of you who believe and spend will have a great reward.
[57:9] Why is it that you believe not in Allah, while the Messenger calls you to believe in your Lord, and He has already taken a covenant from you, if indeed you are believers?
[57:10] He it is Who sends down clear Signs to His servant, that He may bring you out of

http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=57

Please prove that the above verses have been copied/plagiarized/adapted from Jewish Bible/Torah or any other religious revealed scripture in the world by quoting from that book, the reference and providing the link.
Just impossible to do it.
Quran is authored by G-d, it is the reality.

In terms of the notion "Koran dated to before Muhamad birth."and some of the pseudo scholars also , link provided by the poster, saying this. Since Muhammad could not have plagiarized Quran from the old scriptures before his own birth, it must be thrashed out by the said pseudo-scholars, pseudo-history and the pseudo-science all together evidencing on top-priority as to from which old scriptures Muhammad recited the above verses verbatim.

Peaceful and reasonable dialogue is welcome, even if one differs.

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[paarsurrey]

Is Quran copied from Jewish Bible/Torah? : Quran did not copy from Jewish Bible/Torah

I have so far quoted following 59 full chapters from Quran in these threads:[Summary]

58. Al-Mujaadilah 59. Al-Hashr 60. Al-Mumtahanah 61. Al-Saff 62. Al-Jumu`ah 63. Al-Munafiqun 64. Al-Taghabun 65. Al-Talaq 66. Al-Tahrim 67. Al-Mulk 68. Al-Qalam 69. Al-Haqqah 70. Al-Ma`arij 71. Nooh 72. Al-Jinn 73. Al-Muzzammil 74. Al-Muddaththir 75. Al-Qiyamah 76. Al-Dahr 77. Al-Mursalat 78. Al-Naba' 79. Al-Nazi`at 80. `Abasa 81. Al-Takwir 82. Al-Infitar 83. Al-Tatfif 84. Al-Inshiqaq 85. Al-Buruj 86. Al-Tariq 87. Al-A`la 88. Al-Ghashiyah 89. Al-Fajr 90. Al-Balad

91. Al-Shams 92. Al-Lail 93.Al-Duha 94. Al-Inshirah 95. Al-Tin 96. Al-`Alaq 97. Al-Qadr 98. Al-Bayyinah 99. Al-Zilzal 100. Al-`Adiyat 101. Al-Qari`ah102. Al-Takathur 103. Al-`Asr 104. Al-Humazah 105. Al-Fil 106.Al-Quraish 107. Al-Ma`un 108. Al-Kauthar 109. Al-Kafirun 110. Al-Nasr 111. Al-Lahab 112. Al-Ikhlas 113. Al-Falaq 114.Al-Nas 1. Al-Fatihah. 3. Aal-e-`Imran 14. Ibrahim

Our Jewish (or non-Jewish) friends have not been able to quote or reference places of Torah where verses of these fifty nine Quranic chapters have been copied/plagiarized/adapted from.

There being 114 Surahs/chapters in Quran. Number-wise this makes more than 1/2 of Quran.

In terms of the notion "Koran dated to before Muhamad birth. " and some of the pseudo scholars also , link also provided by the poster, saying this; since Muhammad could not have plagiarized Quran from the old scriptures before his own birth, it must be thrashed out by the said pseudo-scholars, pseudo-history and the pseudo-science all together evidencing on top-priority as to from which old scriptures Muhammad recited the above verses verbatim.

We can therefore conclude with 100% certainty that 0% of verses of these chapters of Quran have been copied/plagiarized/adapted from Torah or any other scripture.
Quran is, therefore, the Word Revealed from G-d and authored by Him and is original.

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#1617

 

[paarsurrey]

Is Quran copied from Jewish Bible/Torah? : Quran did not copy from Jewish Bible/Torah

The Holy Quran : Chapter 57: Al-Hadid [2]

[57:11] And why is it that you spend not in the way of Allah, while to Allah belongs the heritage of the heavens and the earth? Those of you who spent and fought before the Victory are not equal to those who did so later. They are greater in rank than those who spent and fought afterwards. And to all has Allah promised good. And Allah is Well-Aware of what you do.
[57:12] Who is he that will lend to Allah a goodly loan? So He will increase it manifold for him, and he will have a generous reward.
[57:13] And think of the day when thou wilt see the believing men and the believing women, their light running before them and on their right hands, and it will be said to them, ‘Glad tidings for you this day! Gardens through which streams flow, wherein you will abide. That is the supreme triumph.’
[57:14] On the day when the hypocritical men and the hypocritical women will say to those who believe, ‘Wait a while for us that we may take light from your light,’ it will be said to them, ‘Go ye back if you can, and seek for light.’ Then there will be set up between them a wall with a door in it. The inside of it will be all mercy and in front, outside it, will be torment.
[57:15] They will call out to them, saying, ‘Were we not with you?’ They will answer, ‘Yea, but you led yourselves into temptation and you hesitated and doubted and your vain desires deceived you till the decree of Allah came to pass. And the Deceiver deceived you in respect of Allah.
[57:16] ‘So this day no ransom shall be accepted from you, nor from those who disbelieved. Your final abode is the Fire; that is your friend; and a very evil destination it is.’
[57:17] Has not the time arrived for those who believe that their hearts should feel humbled at the remembrance of Allah and at the truth which has come down to them, and that they should not become like those who were given the Book before them and the term was prolonged for them, but their hearts were hardened, and many of them are wicked?
[57:18] Know that Allah is now quickening the earth after its death. We have made the Signs manifest to you, that you may understand.
[57:19] As to the men that give alms, and the women that give alms, and those who lend to Allah a goodly loan — it will be increased manifold for them, and theirs will also be an honourable reward —
[57:20] And those who believe in Allah and His Messengers and they are the Truthful and the Witnesses in the sight of their Lord, they will have their reward and their light. But as for those who disbelieve and reject Our Signs, these are the inmates of Hell.
http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=57&verse=11

Please prove that the above verses have been copied/plagiarized/adapted from Jewish Bible/Torah or any other religious revealed scripture in the world by quoting from that book, the reference and providing the link.
Just impossible to do it.
Quran is authored by G-d, it is the reality.

In terms of the notion "Koran dated to before Muhamad birth."and some of the pseudo scholars also , link provided by the poster, saying this. Since Muhammad could not have plagiarized Quran from the old scriptures before his own birth, it must be thrashed out by the said pseudo-scholars, pseudo-history and the pseudo-science all together evidencing on top-priority as to from which old scriptures Muhammad recited the above verses verbatim.

Peaceful and reasonable dialogue is welcome, even if one differs with me.

Regards

 

[paarsurrey]

Nobody could prove that verses [65:1] to[65:10] of The Holy Quran : Chapter 65: Al-Talaq on page 75 posted on Mar 30, 2016#1495 have been copied/plagiarized/adapted from Jewish Bible/Torah or any other religious revealed scripture in the world by quoting from that book, giving a reference and providing the link.
Just impossible to do it.
It is one aspect of the fact that Quran is authored by G-d .
Muhammad did not claim that he authored the Recitation/Quran.
G-d claimed its authorship and guaranteed its security all through the ages.
Right?
Regards

 

[Andraste]

Nobody could prove that verses [65:1] to[65:10] of The Holy Quran : Chapter 65: Al-Talaq on page 75 posted on Mar 30, 2016#1495 have been copied/plagiarized/adapted from Jewish Bible/Torah or any other religious revealed scripture in the world by quoting from that book, giving a reference and providing the link.
Just impossible to do it.
It is one aspect of the fact that Quran is authored by G-d .
Muhammad did not claim that he authored the Recitation/Quran.
G-d claimed its authorship and guaranteed its security all through the ages.
Right?
Regards

Wrong..... The Quran is a Bi-product of a medical condition that Muhammad suffered from....., Namely Frontal Lobe Epilepsy..... This is where a lot of the Quran came from.... The rest he simply just made up

 

[paarsurrey]

Wrong..... The Quran is a Bi-product of a medical condition that Muhammad suffered from....., Namely Frontal Lobe Epilepsy..... This is where a lot of the Quran came from.... The rest he simply just made up

Please provide your medical evidence and please name the doctor/physician who checked Muhammad physically for treatment and diagnosed it. Or please quote from a peer-reviewed reputed Scientific Journal that has published the findings of such investigations or anything concrete from a text book of Science. Please
Or if it is from your religion, please quote from the Gnostic religious scriptures and the name of the founder of your religion who received such Revelation.
Or your have the option, as you seem so sure on it, to use all the above source on merit on your disposal, please.
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[Andraste]

Please provide your medical evidence and please name the doctor/physician who checked Muhammad physically for treatment and diagnosed it. Or please quote from a peer-reviewed reputed Scientific Journal that has published the findings of such investigations or anything concrete from a text book of Science. Please
Or if it is from your religion, please quote from the Gnostic religious scriptures and the name of the founder of your religion who received such Revelation.
Or your have the option, as you seem so sure on it, to use all the above source on merit on your disposal, please.
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The Physical Effects of Muhammad’s Ecstatic Experiences:
Here is how Muhammad described his mystical experiences:
“The Revelation is always brought to me by an angel: sometimes it is delivered to me as the beating sound of the bell--and this is the hardest experience for me; but sometimes the angel appears to me in the shape of a human and speaks to me.”
“Those who saw the Prophet (pbuh) in this state relate that his condition would change. Sometimes he would stay motionless as if some terribly heavy load was pressed on him and, even in the coldest day, drops of sweat would fall from his forehead” At other times he would move his lips.
Ibn Sa'd says, "at the moment of inspiration, anxietypressed upon the Prophet, and his countenance was troubled"
"He fell to the ground like one intoxicated or overcome by sleep; and in the coldest day his forehead would be bedewed with large drops of perspiration. Inspiration descended unexpectedly, and without any previous warning."
"Then Allah's Apostle returned with that experience; and the muscles between his neck and shoulders were trembling till he came upon Khadija (his wife) and said, "Cover me!" They covered him, and when the state of fear was over" and
All these are symptoms of Temporal Lobe Epilepsy. The following is a partial list of the Temporal Lobe Seizure Symptoms & Signs as defined
Hallucinations or illusions such as hearing voices when no one has spoken, seeing patterns, lights, beings or objects that aren't there
Rhythmic muscle contraction Muscle cramps are involuntary and often painful contractions of the muscles which produce a hard, bulging muscle
Abdominal pain or discomfort.
Sudden, intense emotion such as fear.
Muscle twitching (fasciculation) is the result of spontaneous local muscle contractions that are involuntary and typically only affect individual muscle groups. This twitching does not cause pain.
Abnormal mouth behaviors
Abnormal head movements
Sweating
Flushed face
Rapid heart rate/pulse
Changes in vision, speech, thought, awareness, personality
Loss of memory (amnesia) regarding events around the seizure (partial complex seizure)
All the above symptoms were present in Muhammad during the moments that he was allegedly receiving revelations.
He had visions (hallucinations) of seeing an angel or a light and of hearing voices.
He experienced bodily spasms and excruciating abdominal pain and discomfort
He was overwhelmed by sudden emotions of anxiety and fear
He had twitching in his neck muscles
He had uncontrollable lip movement
He sweated even during cold days.
His face flushed. His countenance was troubled.
He had rapid heart palpitation
He had loss of memory. (There is a tradition that states Muhammad was bewitched and used to think that he had sexual relations with his wives when he actually had not. [5]
It is also interesting to note that Muhammad's hallucination was not limited to seeing the Angel Gabriel but he also claimed seeing Jinns and even in one occasion while praying in the mosque he started struggling with an imaginary person and later said "Satan came in front of me and tried to interrupt my prayer, but Allah gave me an upper hand on him and I choked him. No doubt, I thought of tying him to one of the pillars of the mosque till you get up in the morning and see him. Then I remembered the statement of Prophet Solomon, 'My Lord ! Bestow on me a kingdom such as shall not belong to any other after me.' Then Allah made him (Satan) return with his head down (humiliated)." [6]
Muhammad's belief in Satan was such that he seemed to think that not even he is immune from his whisperings. [7]
One of the embarrassing events in Muhammad's life occurred when Satan put words in his mouth.
Tabari says: “When the messenger of God saw how his tribe turned their backs on him and was grieved to see them shunning the message he had brought to them from God, he longed in his soul that something would come to him from God which would reconcile him with his tribe. With his love for his tribe and his eagerness for their welfare it would have delighted him if some of the difficulties which they made for him could have been smoothed out, and he debated with himself and fervently desired such an outcome. Then God revealed:
"By the Star when it sets, your comrade does not err, nor is he deceived; nor does he speak out of (his own) desire..."
and when he came to the words:
Have you thought upon al-Lat and al-Uzza and Manat, the third, the other?
Satan cast on his tongue, because of his inner debates and what he desired to bring to his people, the words:
"These are the high flying cranes; verily their intercession is accepted with approval.
The Quraysh left delighted by the mention of their gods. Amity was restored and the news of that reached the followers of Muhmmad who at his behest had migrated to Abyssina and some of them returned. Muhammad realizing the consequence of this is giving up on his monopoly on God and the contradiction that it entails, claimed those verses and his Allah consoled him saying, “Never did We send a messenger or a prophet before thee, but, when he framed a desire, Satan threw some (vanity) into his desire: but Allah will cancel anything (vain) that Satan throws in, and Allah will confirm (and establish) His Signs: for Allah is full of Knowledge and Wisdom”: 22:52 [8]
In the Quran there are several mentions of Jinns. Surah 72 narrates a conversation between Jinns where they comment about the Quran, call it “a wonderful Recital” and convert to Islam. Their role is described as prying into the secrets of heaven and eavesdropping to the conversation of the exalted assembly. Which since the apparition of Muhammad, they found it filled with stern guards and flaming fires. “We used, indeed, to sit there in (hidden) stations, to (steal) a hearing;" Quran quotes one Jinn saying to others, "but any who listen now will find a flaming fire watching him in ambush. And we understand not whether ill is intended to those on earth, or whether their Lord (really) intends to guide them to right conduct".
It is not difficult to see that Muhammad suffered from Temporal Lobe Epilepsy. In fact TLE was just one of his ailments. The prophet suffered from other mental disorders and physical complications. I will speak about them in future. The real miracle is in the fact that a billion people follow a sick man for so long.


[1] Katib al Waqidi p. 37. See also Bukhari 1: 1: 2
[2] Bukhari 7, 71, 660)
[3] Bukhari 6, 60, 478
[4] B. 9,78.111
[6] Bukhari 2, 22, 301
[7] 6.68, 6.116, 22.52
[8] Tabari volume 6, page 107

 

[paarsurrey]

It is not difficult to see that Muhammad suffered from Temporal Lobe Epilepsy

I think your forgot to fulfill my request:

1. Please provide your medical evidence and please name the doctor/physician who checked Muhammad physically for treatment and diagnosed it.
2. Or please quote from a peer-reviewed reputed Scientific Journal that has published the findings of such investigations
3. or anything concrete from a text book of Science. Please
4. Or if it is from your religion, please quote from the Gnostic religious scriptures and the name of the founder of your religion who received such Revelation.
5. Or your have the option, as you seem so sure on it, to use all the above source on merit on your disposal, please.

In case you have fulfilled my request to very much support your viewpoint. then please Quote here in very bold letters for everybody. Will your? Please
Maybe I had missed it.Right? Please
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P.S. Welcome to the forum and your input in it.

 

[paarsurrey]

Is Quran copied from Jewish Bible/Torah? : Quran did not copy from Jewish Bible/Torah

The Holy Quran : Chapter 57: Al-Hadid [3]

[57:21] Know that the life of this world is only a sport and a pastime, and an adornment, and a source of boasting among yourselves, and of rivalry in multiplying riches and children. This life is like the rain the vegetation produced whereby rejoices the tillers. Then it dries up and thou seest it turn yellow; then it becomes broken pieces of straw. And in the Hereafter there is severe punishment, and also forgiveness from Allah, and His pleasure. And the life of this world is nothing but temporary enjoyment of deceitful things.
[57:22] Vie with one another in seeking forgiveness from your Lord and for a Garden the value whereof is equal to the value of the heaven and the earth; it has been prepared for those who believe in Allah and His Messenger. That is Allah’s grace; He bestows it upon whomsoever He pleases, and Allah is the Lord of immense grace.
[57:23] There befalls not any calamity either in the earth or in your own persons, but it isrecorded in a Book before We bring it into being — surely, that is easy for Allah —
[57:24] That you may not grieve over what is lost to you nor exult because of that which He has given to you. And Allah loves not any selfconceited boaster,
[57:25] Such as are niggardly and also enjoin upon men to be niggardly. And whoso turns his back, then surely Allah is Self-Sufficient, Worthy of all praise.
[57:26] Verily, We sent Our Messengers with manifest Signs and sent down with them the Book and the Balance that people may act with justice; and We sent down iron, wherein ismaterial for violent warfare and many benefits for mankind, and that Allah may distinguish those who help Him and His Messengers without having seen Him. Surely, Allah is Powerful, Mighty.
[57:27] And We did send Noah and Abraham, and We placed among their seed prophethood and the Book. So some of them followed the guidance, but many of them were rebellious.
[57:28] Then We caused Our Messengers to follow in their footsteps; and We caused Jesus, son of Mary, to follow them, and We gave him the Gospel. And We placed in the hearts of those who accepted him compassion and mercy. But monasticism which they invented for themselves — We did not prescribe it for them — for the seeking of Allah’s pleasure; but they did not observe it with due observance. Yet We gave those of them who believed their due reward, but many of them are rebellious.
[57:29] O ye who believe! fear Allah and believe in His Messenger; He will give you a double share of His mercy, and will provide for you a light wherein you will walk, and will grant you forgiveness — and verily Allah is Most Forgiving, Merciful —
[57:30] That the People of the Book may not think that they (the Muslims) have no power to attain aught of the grace of Allah; whereas grace is entirely in the hands of Allah. He gives it to whomsoever He pleases. And Allah is the Master of immense grace.
http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=57&verse=21

Please prove that the above verses have been copied/plagiarized/adapted from Jewish Bible/Torah or any other religious revealed scripture in the world by quoting from that book, the reference and providing the link.
Just impossible to do it.
Quran is authored by G-d, it is the reality.

In terms of the notion "Koran dated to before Muhamad birth."and some of the pseudo scholars also , link provided by the poster, saying this. Since Muhammad could not have plagiarized Quran from the old scriptures before his own birth, it must be thrashed out by the said pseudo-scholars, pseudo-history and the pseudo-science all together evidencing on top-priority as to from which old scriptures Muhammad recited the above verses verbatim.

Peaceful and reasonable dialogue is welcome, even if one differs with me.

Regards

 

[paarsurrey]

Nobody could prove that verses [66:11] to[66:13] of The Holy Quran : Chapter 66: Al-Tahrim on page 75 posted on Mar 24, 2016#1482 have been copied/plagiarized/adapted from Jewish Bible/Torah or any other religious revealed scripture in the world by quoting from that book, giving a reference and providing the link.
Just impossible to do it.
It is one aspect of the fact that Quran is authored by G-d .
Muhammad did not claim that he authored the Recitation/Quran.
G-d claimed its authorship and guaranteed its security all through the ages.
Right?
Regards

 

[paarsurrey]

Is Quran copied from Jewish Bible/Torah? : Quran did not copy from Jewish Bible/Torah

The Holy Quran : Chapter 56: Al-Waqi`ah الواقِعَة

[1]​

[56:1] In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful.
[56:2] When the Event comes to pass —
[56:3] None can say that its coming to pass is a lie —
[56:4] Some it will bring low, others it will exalt.
[56:5] When the earth will be shaken with a terrible shaking,
[56:6] And the mountains will be shattered — a complete shattering.
[56:7] They shall all become like dust particles scattered about,
[56:8] And you shall be divided into three groups:
[56:9] First, those on the right hand — how lucky are those on the right hand! —
[56:10] Second, those on the left hand — how unlucky are those on the left hand! —
http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=56

Please prove that the above verses have been copied/plagiarized/adapted from Jewish Bible/Torah or any other religious revealed scripture in the world by quoting from that book, the reference and providing the link.
Just impossible to do it.
Quran is authored by G-d, it is the reality.

In terms of the notion "Koran dated to before Muhamad birth."and some of the pseudo scholars also , link provided by the poster, saying this. Since Muhammad could not have plagiarized Quran from the old scriptures before his own birth, it must be thrashed out by the said pseudo-scholars, pseudo-history and the pseudo-science all together evidencing on top-priority as to from which old scriptures Muhammad recited the above verses verbatim.

Peaceful and reasonable dialogue is welcome, even if one differs with me.

Regards

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

I think your forgot to fulfill my request:

1. Please provide your medical evidence and please name the doctor/physician who checked Muhammad physically for treatment and diagnosed it.
2. Or please quote from a peer-reviewed reputed Scientific Journal that has published the findings of such investigations
3. or anything concrete from a text book of Science. Please
4. Or if it is from your religion, please quote from the Gnostic religious scriptures and the name of the founder of your religion who received such Revelation.
5. Or your have the option, as you seem so sure on it, to use all the above source on merit on your disposal, please.

In case you have fulfilled my request to very much support your viewpoint. then please Quote here in very bold letters for everybody. Will your? Please
Maybe I had missed it.Right? Please
Regards

P.S. Welcome to the forum and your input in it.

You're engaging in another Kent Hovind challenge and Andraste is wisely ignoring it.

 

[paarsurrey]

You're engaging in another Kent Hovind challenge and Andraste is wisely ignoring it.

Let one be more wise like you. Have a good time. Please
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[paarsurrey]

paarsurrey said: ↑
Nobody could prove that verses [65:1] to[65:10] of The Holy Quran : Chapter 65: Al-Talaq on page 75 posted on Mar 30, 2016#1495 have been copied/plagiarized/adapted from Jewish Bible/Torah or any other religious revealed scripture in the world by quoting from that book, giving a reference and providing the link.
Just impossible to do it.
It is one aspect of the fact that Quran is authored by G-d .
Muhammad did not claim that he authored the Recitation/Quran.
G-d claimed its authorship and guaranteed its security all through the ages.
Right?

Wrong..... The Quran is a Bi-product of a medical condition that Muhammad suffered from....., Namely Frontal Lobe Epilepsy..... This is where a lot of the Quran came from.... The rest he simply just made up

Is it from Religion? Then quote from the scripture you believe in.Right? Please
Is it from Science, then quote in this connection from the peer-reviewed article published in a scientific journal of repute or from text-book of science.Right? Please
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[paarsurrey]

Is Quran copied from Jewish Bible/Torah? : Quran did not copy from Jewish Bible/Torah

The Holy Quran : Chapter 56: Al-Waqi`ah الواقِعَة
[2]
[56:11] Third, the foremost; they are the foremost;
[56:12] They will have achieved nearness to God.
[56:13] They will be in the Gardens of Bliss —
[56:14] A large party from among the early Muslims,
[56:15] And a few from the later ones,
[56:16] Seated on couches inwrought with gold and jewels,
[56:17] Reclining thereon facing each other.
[56:18] There will wait on them youths, who will not age,
[56:19] Carrying goblets and ewers and cups filled out of a flowing spring —
[56:20] No headache will they get therefrom, nor will they be intoxicated —
http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=56&verse=11

Please prove that the above verses have been copied/plagiarized/adapted from Jewish Bible/Torah or any other religious revealed scripture in the world by quoting from that book, the reference and providing the link.
Just impossible to do it.
Quran is authored by G-d, it is the reality.

In terms of the notion "Koran dated to before Muhamad birth."and some of the pseudo scholars also , link provided by the poster, saying this. Since Muhammad could not have plagiarized Quran from the old scriptures before his own birth, it must be thrashed out by the said pseudo-scholars, pseudo-history and the pseudo-science all together evidencing on top-priority as to from which old scriptures Muhammad recited the above verses verbatim.

Peaceful and reasonable dialogue is welcome, even if one differs with me.

Regards

 

[paarsurrey]

You're engaging in another Kent Hovind challenge and Andraste is wisely ignoring it.

Who is Kent Hovind? What is his challenge?
How is it related to here? Please
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[paarsurrey]

Nobody could prove that verses [66:1] to[66:10] of The Holy Quran : Chapter 66: Al-Tahrim on page 74 posted on Mar 22, 2016#1474 have been copied/plagiarized/adapted from Jewish Bible/Torah or any other religious revealed scripture in the world by quoting from that book, giving a reference and providing the link.
Just impossible to do it.
It is one aspect of the fact that Quran is authored by G-d .
Muhammad did not claim that he authored the Recitation/Quran.
G-d claimed its authorship and guaranteed its security all through the ages.
Right?
Regards

 

[paarsurrey]

Andraste said: ↑ Jul 1, 2016#1689 , Jul 1, 2016#1688
It is not difficult to see that Muhammad suffered from Temporal Lobe Epilepsy

I think your forgot to fulfill my request:

1. Please provide your medical evidence and please name the doctor/physician who checked Muhammad physically for treatment and diagnosed it.
2. Or please quote from a peer-reviewed reputed Scientific Journal that has published the findings of such investigations
3. or anything concrete from a text book of Science. Please
4. Or if it is from your religion, please quote from the Gnostic religious scriptures and the name of the founder of your religion who received such Revelation.
5. Or your have the option, as you seem so sure on it, to use all the above source on merit on your disposal, please.

In case you have fulfilled my request to very much support your viewpoint. then please Quote here in very bold letters for everybody. Will your? Please
Maybe I had missed it.Right? Please
Regards

P.S. Welcome to the forum and your input in it.

Anybody to help our @Andraste , anybody from any religion or no-religion, please
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[life.period]

Your comments please

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Anti-Islam claim several thing to prove Qur'an is not word of god.

One of these reasons is prophet studied Torah .

Reply to this claim is " prophet was ilitrate ".

So there claim is not valid .

Torah on that point of time written to Hebrew . Translated versions found later. Prophet was Araba.

They claim illiterate Arab read Hebrew Torah.

Another claim prophet peace be upon him got help by waraqa bin nawfal " Christian archer" . That mean Qur'an was finished before waraqa die. Waraqa died before Muhammad prophecy.

Answer is " prophet didn't handed Qur'an to pagan as whole . When prophet preached quran waraq is died . Quran revelation was reply to specific event happened in prophet time . Waraq is not exist on that point of time . Waraqa doesn't know what will happen in future.

For example, pagan asked prophet to split moon apart " crack moon apart" to prove his prophecy. Prophet did crack moon apart as miracle like rest prophet

When they sew saw moon cracked
They disbelieve him . They claim this is magic. One of them asked travellers because magic can't effect people from outside .
Travellers said they witnessed
Moon crack . There is chapter in Qur'an about moon . This not mentioned in bible neither in Torah.

Chinese celebrate in moon crack cake . It is famouse cake. You can find it in Google search.

Event :
prophet clift.moon.apart . Then he reunit it ..
According to police investigation policies there should be evidence left.

NASA found long crack in moon start from begging to end .





Did muhamad peace be upon him claimed Qur'an from god to earn wealth or position .

In order to stop prophet preaching worshipping creator only instead of idol's made out of rocks . They offered him position and wealth but he refused to take it .

Prophet lived as poor person and he died as poor despite fact he was president . He sacrificed all his money and wealth to poor people .

If you read his life from islamic authentic book you will find he was living in simple house . He sleep several times without food. He didn't eat five meal . His dress couple dress. He didn't live luxiouruos life.


In fact , Islam teaching is different from Christian.

Christian drink wine as claim it jesus blood and jews claim it allowed.
Islam is only religion that saved humanity from wine.

Muslims don't believe in trinity in opposite of christian.

Quran mention " Torah and bible " twisted .

God never ever allow drinking wine

Also jermaiah 8:8 prove Islamic claim and it is twisted by people.

In old testonemy prophet Moses peace be upon him asking jews not to change Torah he brought and he calling them corrupter.

Current Torah that jews holding is not one Moses brought which prove corruption and twisting Torah. Moses Torah disappeared.


Torah is full of contradiction which prove it is written by two person " God and jews "

Torah mention : " no one sew god then it says Moses sew god face to face. Many others went to heaven and ate with god .

Muslims believe jesus brought bible but when he went to heaven , people corrupt his words .

In order to prove Muslims calim we need to prove there were two bibles

One brought by Jesus and another one written by people.

Current bible as well known written by people not Jesus .

We can find in bible it says jesus him self owned bible.

Paul said in Galatians : "I am not ashamed of Jesus bible ".


Why Paul tend to write bible beside jesus bible while he owned it .

When Jesus come after Moses who brought Torah he didn't named his book Torah but bible .

Let's see bible content and judge.

Bible says Judah died by hanging him self. In the aame time bible claim judah died when his stomach burst.

Bible doesn't know how did Judah died . It is not authentic

Question: how dare bible writers to commit a mistake while they owned Jesus bible. An authentic source.


Several bibles found not one .

When Barnaba bible found in Turkey they calimed it is written by Muslims to save their dignity because it predict prophet muhamad coming and named him.

They ignore fact Barnaba bible written in 2 nd century while Islam not existand it is written in Aramaic language which didn't exist in prophet time . it is mentioned by non Muslims that true Torah and bible written in Aramaic not Hebrew. Jesus talked Aramaic not Hebrew. Later on jews talked Hebrew . Original Lang is Aramaic.



Christian and jews books prove Qur'an is authentic. So we can't say it is human words .

Quran mention several scientific discoveries which is impossible for illiterate person to know it.



Always jews claim there should be harmony .

In fact Torah it self lack of harmony

There is harmony but not every thing because of corruption

Jews believe god is one .
Muslims as well.

Jews believe Massiah is prophet
Muslims as well.

Quran mention that prophet Muhammad in Torah

Hebrew Torah mention name prophet muhammad . Muhamad is Arabic name not Hebrew .

Translators tend to hide truth by omitting name " muhamad " in translated versions .
Here listen to jews while reading line from song of Solomon :

First person named muhamad was prophet muhamad and two others born in same time.


Isaiah " burden upon Arabia ... Then names city called tema

Tema located in Saudi arabai "

It name attribute " qedar "

Qedar is son of Ishmael according to genesis

" ishamael sons are mebsam , Qedar.."

Prophet decendend from Ishmael son qedar .. known ..

Genesis also mention mircale of well water in paran by Ishmael when he was kid. This well water known in Islam and called zamzam well located in Mecca where prophet Muhammad born.

note :Miracles happen to prophets only. So Ishmael is a prophet.

Bible mention
area where well water found and it is " paran "

Old testonemy predict prophet coming from paran where well water found .

Paran is Mecca where prophet born peace be upon them .