Is Sponge-Bob Square Pants a 'gay' symbol?

[FFH]

Sure, the most famous of which found that the only notable difference between children with heterosexual parents and those with homosexual parents was that the children with homosexual parents had experienced hatred and bigotry from other people.

Yeah, okay, seriously it's not about hate or bigotry, no one hates gays and lesbians, we just do not share their values on this matter, that's all...

 

[Nanda]

Look it up..

:no: Burden of proof's on you, buddy.

 

[Nanda]

Yeah, okay, seriously it's not about hate or bigotry, no one hates gays and lesbians, we just do not share their values on this matter, that's all...

And you want to keep them from raising children, apparently.

 

[Mike182]

Love all kinds of people, regardless of race, color, religion or sexual preference..

I really like Rosie O'Donnell, for some reason, and many other LDS members do to, including Donnie and Marie Osmond, who appeared on her show several times, as did Rosie appear on Donnie and Marie's talk show several times..

LDS members have nothing against gays and lesbians, just the sin, not the person..

I have some lesbian friends, but no gay, because of reasons described earlier...

All of the lesbian friends I met at work, and there is almost always one gay or lesbian working with me...

I get hit on by young and old gay men, having above average looks...

I have to keep my distance from gay men or I soon find myself in dangerous situations, so I really have no gay friends and really no close friends at all, except my wife...

If I'm around people they tend to become obsessed with being around me..

I'm attractive and very kind and people weird out on me, both men and women...

We live in a society that no longer loves people, but lusts after them..

I'm also 41 but can pass for 20 something, almost everyone tells me that, so just last night two very attractive young women, who were 18 and probably lesbians, judging by the way they were acting, and this has happened before, gave me the eye and had that look of "I or we want you"...

Very tempting situation for me as a Christian and who would not want to be around someone who "wanted" you, if for no other reason...

I can quickly find myself in compromising situations without even trying....

All I would have to say is okay lets go and party and most women and men would be down with that.

I had three young girls, below drinking age, approach me in the grocery store and asked me to buy them beer, which I refused, then they said could you then just give us 5 bucks for gas and I agreed, then they said, "Do you party?" I said "Yeah" but thought to myself, not in the way you do, but what a temptation, two were extremely good looking and they asked if they could come back to my place, right then and there, without even knowing me or me even asking them...

They were willing to hop in my car and go back to my place and party, without beer, so they obviously had more than beer on their minds or maybe they just wanted to rip me off..

My point is that gay and lesbian lifestyles promote unhealthy lifestyles, which I find most men and women are now days...or I should say bi-sexual seems to be the norm now days, from the propositions I've experienced...but most seem to prefer their own sex, with a mix at times of either two men and one women or two women and one man...

I've been offered both...

you take observations of a few people and generalise them to an entire population - that is not good decorum in a debate.

 

[Mike182]

Look it up..

burden of proof is on you. next time i say "studies prove this..." then i will provide the studies i was reading.

 

[MaddLlama]

Yeah, okay, seriously it's not about hate or bigotry, no one hates gays and lesbians, we just do not share their values on this matter, that's all...

I just don't understand what you think is vile about teaching kids that there's nothing wrong with people who are different from them.

Why is tolerance for diversity (whether it be sex, sexual preference, ethnicity, religion, or even weight or hair color) not something that children should be taught? What good does it do children to tell them that diversity is bad?

 

[Mike182]

Yeah, okay, seriously it's not about hate or bigotry, no one hates gays and lesbians, we just do not share their values on this matter, that's all...

well, our value on this is the value of equality, freedom, tolerance, acceptance of diversity, and we are against preaching/teaching unjust, unreasonable lies about groups that are different to the main stream.

if you ascribe yourself to be the opposite of those things then just remember, you said it not me.

 

[FFH]

nee

you take observations of a few people and generalise them to an entire population - that is not good decorum in a debate.

Over a span of about 20 years I have had all types of propositions...

I remember a few years ago four adult women (who were customers) approached me, while at work (not knowing me personally) and one asked, "hey, do you want to go have a little fun with us"....

The others were so embarrassed, but you could see that at least one or two did want that...

Either some or one was bisexual and the others lesbians or whatever...and the same scenario has happened to me with multiple young men who have approached me with the same offer..

We live in an unhealthy sexual society....

SpongeBob is just an example of that. An outward character, representing an inward unhealthy society..

 

[FFH]

I need to add that this (the things I've been discussing) are the norm now, not Christianity, which is not the norm, even among a high LDS pupulated community, such as the one I'm living in, which probably has the most amount of LDS, per capita, in the world..

I'm still hit with various offers, but not so much as when I worked closer towards Salt Lake and in Salt Lake...

I've worked throughout the valley here and definitely Salt Lake is the worst area, as far as morals go...

The "SpongeBob" society's gonna fall apart, sooner or later...

 

[McBell]

neeOver a span of about 20 years I have had all types of propositions...

I remember a few years ago four adult women (who were customers) approached me, while at work (not knowing me personally) and one asked, "hey, do you want to go have a little fun with us"....

The others were so embarrassed, but you could see that at least one or two did want that...

Either some or one was bisexual and the others lesbians or whatever...and the same scenario has happened to me with multiple young men who have approached me with the same offer..

We live in an unhealthy sexual society....

SpongeBob is just an example of that. An outward character, representing an inward unhealthy society..

And yet you still present none of these alleged studies you claim to have read.
Thus far you have done nothing but present your opinion.
One I happen to completely disagree with, without presenting anything you were flat out asked to present.

 

[FFH]

I just don't understand what you think is vile about teaching kids that there's nothing wrong with people who are different from them.

Why is tolerance for diversity (whether it be sex, sexual preference, ethnicity, religion, or even weight or hair color) not something that children should be taught? What good does it do children to tell them that diversity is bad?

You're doing the same thing the writers of SpongeBob and many many many others do..

You replace the word homosexuality or any other sexual preference, with the word "diversity".

Clever way to mix a moral issue, such as sexual preference and relgion, with a non-moral issue, such as race or color...

 

[MaddLlama]

You're doing the same thing the writers of SpongeBob and many many many others do..

You replace the word homosexuality or any other sexual preference, with the word "diversity".

Clever way to mix a moral issue, such as sexual preference and relgion, with a non-moral issue, such as race or color...

I don't see a difference. Hating someone because they're attracted to the same sex is no better than hating someone because they're not white.

What exactly is so terrible about teaching children that it's not ok to hate someone just because they're different?

 

[McBell]

You're doing the same thing the writers of SpongeBob and many many many others do..

You replace the word homosexuality or any other sexual preference, with the word "diversity".

Clever way to mix a moral issue, such as sexual preference and relgion, with a non-moral issue, such as race or color...

Is it honestly mixing a moral issue?
And if you think so, what moral issue is it attempting to mix and with what other moral issues is it attempting to mix the first moral issue with?

Also, why are these moral issues not to be mixed?

 

[FFH]

And yet you still present none of these alleged studies you claim to have read.
Thus far you have done nothing but present your opinion.
One I happen to completely disagree with, without presenting anything you were flat out asked to present.

Here are three links on both sides of this issue.

You decide...

Same sex parenting

Is Gay Parenting Bad for Kids?

WorldNetDaily: Same-sex marriage: Good for same sex parents, bad for children

 

[McBell]

Here are three links on both sides of this issue.

You decide...

Same sex parenting

Is Gay Parenting Bad for Kids?

WorldNetDaily: Same-sex marriage: Good for same sex parents, bad for children

The first two are not links.
The last one is nothing more than a dismissal by someone like yourself, hell bent on dismissing anything that disagrees with their beliefs.
He also goes to great lengths to set up a rather elaborate strawman around his opinion that children not only have the "right" to a mother and father, but also that a mother and father situation for children is the best situation for children.

I can very easily argue that it is this mother and father situation he is so in defense of that produces the most homosexuals. Wonder how that little fact fits into his agenda?

EDIT:
I stand corrected, I got the first two to links to work in a reply.
Do not know what is up with that.

 

[MaddLlama]

Here are three links on both sides of this issue.

You decide...

Same sex parenting

Is Gay Parenting Bad for Kids?

WorldNetDaily: Same-sex marriage: Good for same sex parents, bad for children

Do you have any non-biased scientific longitudinal studies?

 

[FFH]

Children of same sex parents are more apt to become gay or lesbian

Gay and lesbianism is a learned or chosen response to our natural sexual urges..

We can choose to be attracted to male or female..

My father has practiced psychology for over 40 years and in all his studies and counseling sessions, he has concluded that BGLT orientations are chosen responses to natural sexual urges, which we can control..

We choose who we are attracted to...

It's a conscious choice, not an uncontrollable response...

If I use the same rational, then I could uncontrollably do anything I wanted and say "well, it was not my choice, I was just born that way"...

That would not fly in a court of law...and it won't fly with the creator of our bodies either...

 

[Papersock]

I don't remember choosing who to be attracted to.
If I did choose, I was so young it might as well not have been a choise, because it's not a choice now.

 

[Mike182]

That would not fly in a court of law...and it won't fly with the creator of our bodies either...

we can control what we do with those impulses, act out on them or not, and in what way we act out on them - but we can't control the impulses themselves - and i don't believe homosexuality hurts anyone, it certainly doesn't hurt kids and it aint gonna destroy society.

 

[McBell]

Children of same sex parents are more apt to become gay or lesbian

Gay and lesbianism is a learned or chosen response to our natural sexual urges..

We can choose to be attracted to male or female..

My father has practiced psychology for over 40 years and in all his studies and counseling sessions, he has concluded that BGLT orientations are chosen responses to natural sexual urges, which we can control..

We choose who we are attracted to...

It's a conscious choice, not an uncontrollable response...

If I use the same rational, then I could uncontrollably do anything I wanted and say "well, it was not my choice, I was just born that way"...

That would not fly in a court of law...and it won't fly with the creator of our bodies either...

No offense, but not only do I need something more than "My Father says..." as evidence that it is not a choice, but your whole "will not hold up in court" argument also applies to everything you have thus far presented.