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Is Sponge-Bob Square Pants a 'gay' symbol?

Mathematician

Reason, and reason again
Yes there is a lot of noise, it's just more ignored.
The Gay Independent:
By Jim Underwood
" I can't stand when heterosexuals kiss on screen, that should be gay kisses even in cartoons, especially in cartoons... think of the children"
See what I mean?

Um, not trying to sound rude, just truthful: he was making fun of people like you.
 

McBell

Unbound
Is Sponge-Bob Square Pants a 'gay' symbol?

It is rather obvious that to some people he is.
However, we then run into the problem of symbolism.
A symbol will mean different things to different people.
Take the cross for example.
Some people think it is a symbol of good representing the ultimate sacrifice made by Jesus Christ.
Others think of the cross as the ultimate symbol of torture and death.
 

FFH

Veteran Member
Ok, since JC's PR guy couldn't be here in person, i thought i'd take it upon myself to point out that Jesus Christ never actually condemned homosexuality in any of his teachings.

*Also note that any opinions expressed by St. Paul and other individuals are theirs alone, and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of Jesus Christ Industries or its parent corporation.
Funny, small print made me laugh, almost didn't read it...

Very few realize Jesus Christ is the God and author of the Old and New Testament.

"Scripture is given by inspiration of God" not by the minds of men...
 

FFH

Veteran Member
i agree, i just don't understand how the message of "be nice to others even if they are different to you" is a bad message to be giving our children. that's the only message that sponge bob seems to be spreading, so how is that bad?
I knew you would bring that up sooner or later...

According to the writers of the cartoon, "tolerance and diversity" among family units is the message they were trying to get across...

Tolerance suggesst "putting up" with something....and has nothing to do with "love"...

Diversity suggests "same sex parenting".

So the message is "you need to put up with same sex parenting".

This kind of parenting will mess up kids...

No child should have to grow up in a home with two same sex parents...

Little children are "innocent" and "alive in Christ" and "of such is the kingdom of Heaven" according to the words of Christ...

Christ, if no one else, is the one parents will have to answer to ...

It really does not concern me, but if I were in a child care type government position, I would never allow a child to be subject to same sex parenting...

Cartoons and other media presentations suggesting "diversity" (same sex arenting) should be "tolerated" (put up with), is unacceptable to me...

Little children should not be subject to this type of parenting...

It's not healthy...

Homosexuality should not be an example to young children....

Practice it in private, not as an example for young children..

Christ would say the same thing if he were here...
 

Mike182

Flaming Queer
I knew you would bring that up sooner or later...

According to the writers of the cartoon, "tolerance and diversity" among family units is the message they were trying to get across...

Tolerance suggesst "putting up" with something....and has nothing to do with "love"...

Diversity suggests "same sex parenting".

So the message is "you need to put up with same sex parenting".

This kind of parenting will mess up kids...

No child should have to grow up in a home with two same sex parents...

Little children are "innocent" and "alive in Christ" and "of such is the kingdom of Heaven" according to the words of Christ...

Christ, if no one else, is the one, parents such as these will have to answer to....

I really does not concern me, but if I were in a child care type government situation, I would never allow a child to be subject to a same sex parenting situation...

Cartoons and other media presentations suggesting that "diversity" (same sex arenting) should be "tolerated" (put up with), is unacceptable to me...

Little children should not be subject to this type of parenting...

It's not healthy...

Homosexuality should not be an example to young children....

Practice it in private, not as an example for young children..

Christ would say the same thing if he were here...

wow... that opened my eyes.

i completely, 100% disagree with you, i do not see how gay parents could be unhealthy for a child, assuming that the parents act within the realms of decency in front of their child as heterosexual parents would typically be expected to.

people do not choose to be gay or not, having two same sex parents will not influence that at all, so how is it unhealthy for the kid? you seriously offend me in this post and you discredit a lot of gay parents.

EDIT: ok then, so what message would you have schools teach about homosexuals in place of "just let them live their own lives"?
 

MaddLlama

Obstructor of justice
Cartoons and other media presentations suggesting "diversity" (same sex arenting) should be "tolerated" (put up with), is unacceptable to me...

So, you think that by teaching children to be intolerant toward and hate people who are different, it will make the world a better place?

Can you explain to me how that works?
 

FFH

Veteran Member
Because some paranoid heterosexuals think that by tolerating and accepting homosexuals and treating them with the dignity they deserve as human beings instead of like dirt, somehow people will start "turning gay," as if homosexuality is like the flu. :rolleyes:

I really think the paranoia that I see in many heterosexuals is quite pathetic.

I'm gay.

I'm not interested in forcing straight people to "become gay."

I'm not trying to "recruit" children in our public schools.

I am not trying to prevent you from practicing your archaic religion.

I have no other agenda than to be treated as an equal under law and to be left alone instead of facing bigotry and ignorance.

All my gay and lesbian friends feel the same way, so you can chill the hell out guys (there's no evil gay conspiracy; sorry to disappoint), and stop trying to make our lives more difficult with your anti-gay agenda. ;)
Okay, good we got all that out in the open, now I guess you won't have a problem if we, as Christians, start going around to the public schools and promoting "healthy" parenting and other Christian values, using claymation such as "David and Goliath" and other cartoons such as "The Living Scriptures" designed and written by two ex-Disney LDS animators...

Lets just start showing all the Christian cartoons and computer animamations we can find like "Veggie Tales"....

The rule applies to both parties...

If one rules applies for us as Christians it should apply to other groups such as homosexuals, Buddhists, Muslims, etc. but it doesn't

I recently spoke with a senior high school student who took a "world religion" class his senior year and I asked him if Christianity was discussed and he flat out said "no"...

Funny that every other religion on the planet is allowed to be discussed, but not Christianity..

SpongeBob should not be shown in the public school system...especially when Christian cartoons are not allowed to be shown...

If the writers of SquarePants really believe in diversity, then they won't mind if we (Christians) start showing the clamation series "David and Goliath" in the public school system to promote "healthy" values and "healthy" parenting.
 

MaddLlama

Obstructor of justice
If you can't see the difference between teaching kids that they shouldn't hate others, and teaching them to follow a specific religion, then there really is no hope for you.

How does it benefit children to teach them that it's perfectly acceptable to hate others, and encourage them to do so?
 

FFH

Veteran Member
Do you have anything to back up all those assertions other than the bible?
Sure, there are plenty of psychological studies that have been done on children who have been subject to same sex parenting verses "traditional" parenting..
 

MaddLlama

Obstructor of justice
Sure, there are plenty of psychological studies that have been done on children who have been subject to same sex parenting verses "traditional" parenting..

Sure, the most famous of which found that the only notable difference between children with heterosexual parents and those with homosexual parents was that the children with homosexual parents had experienced hatred and bigotry from other people.
 

McBell

Unbound
Sure, there are plenty of psychological studies that have been done on children who have been subject to same sex parenting verses "traditional" parenting..
Please be so kind as to present legitimate, peer reviewed test studies, for I have yet to see one that even remotely agrees with your position on any aspect that does not equally apply to heterosexual couples.
 

FFH

Veteran Member
EDIT: ok then, so what message would you have schools teach about homosexuals in place of "just let them live their own lives"?
Love all kinds of people, regardless of race, color, religion or sexual preference..

I really like Rosie O'Donnell, for some reason, and many other LDS members do to, including Donnie and Marie Osmond, who appeared on her show several times, as did Rosie appear on Donnie and Marie's talk show several times..

LDS members have nothing against gays and lesbians, just the sin, not the person..

I have some lesbian friends, but no gay, because of reasons described earlier...

All of the lesbian friends I met at work, and there is almost always one gay or lesbian working with me...

I get hit on by young and old gay men, having above average looks...

I have to keep my distance from gay men or I soon find myself in dangerous situations, so I really have no gay friends and really no close friends at all, except my wife...

If I'm around people they tend to become obsessed with being around me..

I'm attractive and very kind and people weird out on me, both men and women...

We live in a society that no longer loves people, but lusts after them..

I'm also 41 but can pass for 20 something, almost everyone tells me that, so just last night two very attractive young women, who were 18 and probably lesbians, judging by the way they were acting, and this has happened before, gave me the eye and had that look of "I or we want you"...

Very tempting situation for me as a Christian and who would not want to be around someone who "wanted" you, if for no other reason...

I can quickly find myself in compromising situations without even trying....

All I would have to say is okay lets go and party and most women and men would be down with that.

I had three young girls, below drinking age, approach me in the grocery store and asked me to buy them beer, which I refused, then they said could you then just give us 5 bucks for gas and I agreed, then they said, "Do you party?" I said "Yeah" but thought to myself, not in the way you do, but what a temptation, two were extremely good looking and they asked if they could come back to my place, right then and there, without even knowing me or me even asking them...

They were willing to hop in my car and go back to my place and party, without beer, so they obviously had more than beer on their minds or maybe they just wanted to rip me off..

My point is that gay and lesbian lifestyles promote unhealthy lifestyles, which I find most men and women are now days...or I should say bi-sexual seems to be the norm now days, from the propositions I've experienced...but most seem to prefer their own sex, with a mix at times of either two men and one women or two women and one man...

I've been offered both...
 
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