Is The Political Future Of Elizabeth Warren Over?

[Nous]

In post #12 here, I noted that Senator Warren did nothing illegal, unethical or unscientific by listing herself as Native American on the Texas State Bar registration card. Oddly, this seems to have riled a lot of people on this thread.

Thus, if you claim or otherwise believe that Warren did do something illegal, unethical or unscientific by so referring to herself, please say so and cite the law, ethical rule or scientific fact that she violated or that her designation is contrary to.

And if you cannot cite any such law, ethical rule or scientific fact, then please explain why you are so upset by the fact that I noted.

 

[esmith]

In post #12 here, I noted that Senator Warren did nothing illegal, unethical or unscientific by listing herself as Native American on the Texas State Bar registration card. Oddly, this seems to have riled a lot of people on this thread.

Thus, if you claim or otherwise believe that Warren did do something illegal, unethical or unscientific by so referring to herself, please say so and cite the law, ethical rule or scientific fact that she violated or that her designation is contrary to.

And if you cannot cite any such law, ethical rule or scientific fact, then please explain why you are so upset by the fact that I noted.

Trustworthy_not

 

[Shad]

In post #12 here, I noted that Senator Warren did nothing illegal, unethical or unscientific by listing herself as Native American on the Texas State Bar registration card. Oddly, this seems to have riled a lot of people on this thread.

Thus, if you claim or otherwise believe that Warren did do something illegal, unethical or unscientific by so referring to herself, please say so and cite the law, ethical rule or scientific fact that she violated or that her designation is contrary to.

And if you cannot cite any such law, ethical rule or scientific fact, then please explain why you are so upset by the fact that I noted.

Still horrible at math I see.

 

[Revoltingest]

Trustworthy_not

I think she's very trustworthy.
But I dislike what I'd trust she would do.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Whether she perpetrated her fraud knowingly or not, she made one. In your world fraud is nothing illegal or unethical.

My understanding of fraud is that it requires the person obtain some material benefit they knew they weren't entitled to?

Can you demonstrate either a. She knowingly made a false claim, and/or b. Received a benefit to which she wasn't entitled?

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

It’s either a neglegent or intentional misrepresentation to get ahead (i.e., fraud).

I don't think that definition of fraud appears in any legal dictionary.

 

[Watchmen]

I don't think that definition of fraud appears in any legal dictionary.

I don't think that definition of fraud appears in any legal dictionary.

You could start with the 1900 series of CACI.

 

[Watchmen]

In post #12 here, I noted that Senator Warren did nothing illegal, unethical or unscientific by listing herself as Native American on the Texas State Bar registration card. Oddly, this seems to have riled a lot of people on this thread.

Thus, if you claim or otherwise believe that Warren did do something illegal, unethical or unscientific by so referring to herself, please say so and cite the law, ethical rule or scientific fact that she violated or that her designation is contrary to.

And if you cannot cite any such law, ethical rule or scientific fact, then please explain why you are so upset by the fact that I noted.

Actually I did. Perhaps you missed it.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

So if I

So if I say I’m black then I’m black ?

How many black ancestors do you think you need before you qualify? Frankly, this racial gatekeeping Americans obsess over is bizarre. If someone says they are black, say "ok" and move on. What good does arguing over whether someone is REALLY black, or any other race, actually serve? If you say you're black, why is it any business of anyone else how "really" black you are?

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

You could start with the 1900 series of CACI.

Are you citing a 119 year old law? How about a link or cited quote?

 

[Watchmen]

How many black ancestors do you think you need before you qualify? Frankly, this racial gatekeeping Americans obsess over is bizarre. If someone says they are black, say "ok" and move on. What good does arguing over whether someone is REALLY black, or any other race, actually serve? If you say you're black, why is it any business of anyone else how "really" black you are?

You missed the point.

 

[Shad]

How many black ancestors do you think you need before you qualify? Frankly, this racial gatekeeping Americans obsess over is bizarre. If someone says they are black, say "ok" and move on. What good does arguing over whether someone is REALLY black, or any other race, actually serve? If you say you're black, why is it any business of anyone else how "really" black you are?

There are race based programs in the US. These need to go otherwise claims of race will still matter.

 

[Watchmen]

Are you citing a 119 year old law? How about a link or cited quote?

Nope. It’s not a 119 year old law. You asked for a cite. I gave you one. Are you trying to play lawyer?

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

You missed the point.

Oh really? Why don't you explain it then? And actually answer my question to you, too?

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Nope. It’s not a 119 year old law. You asked for a cite. I gave you one. Are you trying to play lawyer?

No, I'm trying to find the thing you are claiming to be citing.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

There are race based programs in the US. These need to go otherwise claims of race will still matter.

Matter in the context of such programs, sure. But 7nless Warren was wrongfully benefitting from such a program, why is her race anyone's business but hers?

 

[Watchmen]

No, I'm trying to find the thing you are claiming to be citing.

California Judicial Council Civil Jury Instructions.

Don’t come in here asking for laws, pretend lawyer, then play dumb when I give you a cite.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

I'm looking forward to the new mandatory racial purity tests to confirm and quantify Irish decent before people are allowed to wear green or go drinking on St Patrick's day.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

California Judicial Council Civil Jury Instructions.

Don’t come in here asking for laws, pretend lawyer, then play dumb when I give you a cite.

Don't complain when people ask you to explain your context free random string of numbers and letters.

"California Judicial Council Civil Jury Instructions." As a search term produces about a million results, by the way. Care to be a bit more specific with your *ahem* "citation"? Is a specific link that much to ask for?

 

[Watchmen]

Don't complain when people ask you to explain your random string of numbers and letters.

You got what you asked for.