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ISIS creates sex slave jail with Yezidi women
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Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
No more or less than Christianity. Centuries ago Christians forced their own convert-or-die policy on Europe, and today there are Christian extremist scattered throughout the world. In America they tend to bomb abortion clinics and murder atheists, they spread fear in England for decades, and in Africa they are butchering Muslim villages. Muslim extremist do make up a minority of the Ummah, and many Muslims have been fighting against extremists.
As for ISIS recruitment, it doesn't matter what group you are looking at their primary requiting grounds are those who have been marginalized (very typically young adult males). Al Qaeda and ISIS reach out to marginalized Muslims suffering from Islamaphobia, just like the Irish Republican Army recruited from marginalized Irish Catholics who were targeted in Northern Ireland. These groups reach out to people who feel the world is against them, who have nothing but bleakness, and these groups give them an identity and mission.
They seem to be rational enough to recruit foreigners, so yes, seriously. What are they like?
Have a good day.
I don't expect to find out that they are Hare Krishna or anything, mind you.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Yes, seriously. What are they like? This question is equally valid for people looking beyond the tried-and-failed approach "kill 'em all and solve the problem," those who have humanitarian concerns, and even generals and military strategists must ask "who are they, what are they like?" if they hope to gain any sort of advantage over their enemy. This is indeed a tragic situation in which blood must be shed, but dead terrorists to us are slain martyrs to them. What else can be done to prevent the next blood thirsty group or leader from stepping up and continue the killing? Can anything be done? ISIS needs to be put down, but if our only goal is to kill them there will be another group that will have to be put down for the safety of thousands.
dawny0826
Mother Heathen
I'm of the opinion that we need to eradicate this filth from the face of the planet. There's no justification for their actions and it will get worse unless they're ended.
What specific and critical information do you think is lacking?
Alceste
Vagabond
How to get them to stop doing what they're doing with minimal bloodshed.
Pretty much.
Flankerl
Well-Known Member
Well we could give them their Caliphate and kill all the non-Sunnis before they do.
What information about 'what are they like' is do you find lacking and necessary to get them to stop doing what they are doing?
Alceste
Vagabond
Understanding their motives, what draws recruits to their movement, where their funds are coming from, where their recruits come from, who is most influential among them, what sociopolitical realities allow their movement to survive and thrive, etc. When you are weeding, you have to go for the roots. Dropping bombs on people who frighten us (and everybody in the vicinity) is like tearing off the leaves and scattering seeds all over in the process.
Parenthetically, have any of you read the relevant Wikipedia article? Did you find it lacking? if so, in what way?
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Quite abit actually. It's important to remember they are people, human beings like the rest of us, and humans tend to be very complicated. And how can we make any serious attempts at ending the blood shed unless we begin to know them, and understand their reasons for the blood shed. Not trying to learn about them will also limit answering deeper questions, such as how can new groups be stopped before they can terrorize the masses.
Alceste
Vagabond
That fails the qualifier "with minimal bloodshed".
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
So that's ok to enslave and regularly rape hundreds of innocent women, then.
What an inappropriate post!
And no..... The Irish Republican Army did not recruit anybody in recent decades, you've got the wrong army...... and neither the IRA nor the PIRA enslaved and raped hundreds of Protestant women, either!
Avi1001
reform Jew humanist liberal feminist entrepreneur
Assymetric warfare is needed.....military intelligence, non-traditional armed forces and strikes, and economic development and education....these last ones must not be underestimated...they are the most important...they will take a long time.....but they're faster and more effective than violence.
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Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Where have I ever said it was ok? I would think my posting history makes it very clear I am strongly opposed to such things. I've even stated numerous times I'm all for woman beating a man who can't keep his hands to himself until his teeth are flying. And I never stated what the IRA done, other than the fact it spread fear throughout England for decades, and marginalized Irish were one of their primary recruiting pools.
What I did say though is Islam is no more-or-less dangerous than Christianity. Muslim extremists are the main group terrorizing the world today, but in centuries past it was Christian extremists who required people to convert or die.
I am also saying that if all we do is go in and call them, it is the very definition of insanity because that alone will not work. It may get rid of ISIS, but it will not prevent the next group from rising up and spreading fear. And then we'll have to go in and kill the next group, and the next one, and the next one.