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Islam Has Been Hijacked By...

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
God creat you , and God will make you die ,and God do whatever He want , so if you had power equal to His, or you are His partner , then you had right to critize His decisions .
Not helping.... that just makes it sound even worse...
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Muslims didn't exist when the Kabba was built. :)
do you pretending that you ignore the answser ?

Islam (submission to God) does not come with Muhammad (pbuh) , he cames with Adam (pbuh) , and Noah and Ibraham (pbuh) , .... all prophet and messangers are Muslims .

Allah, sounds like a real peach.

Allah is who creat you , and who will cause you die , could you make you live forever ?
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
do you pretending that you ignore the answser ?

Islam (submission to God) does not come with Muhammad (pbuh) , he cames with Adam (pbuh) , and Noah and Ibraham (pbuh) , .... all prophet and messangers are Muslims .
I fully realize that that is what your marketing brochures state but you simply cannot reasonably claim people who lived eons before anyone had heard of Islam were Muslims. I will admit that it was a very clever ploy that Muhammad played early on.

Allah is who creat you , and who will cause you die , could you make you live forever ?
Um, sure thing.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
I fully realize that that is what your marketing brochures state but you simply cannot reasonably claim people who lived eons before anyone had heard of Islam were Muslims. I will admit that it was a very clever ploy that Muhammad played early on.


Um, sure thing.
that's what called (FIATH)

of course it's sure thing .
Since you don't have full control in your body (sleep,eat, sick, ****, ...etc ) and your future (you will gone) , that's what we called God power.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
God creat you ,

No factually he did not.

My parents factually did create me.


, and God will make you die

No he factually will not. To me that is primitive superstition.

and God do whatever He want

You think so, but to date, there is no evidence anywhere that mythology has done anything in reality.

If he could do anything he want, why he make ancient people copy other peoples religious traditions????

Why cant he make himself known for real if he was not a man made creation?
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
No factually he did not.

My parents factually did create me.
so they are you God ?



No he factually will not. To me that is primitive superstition.
you will die , so that primitive ...etc !!!



You think so, but to date, there is no evidence anywhere that mythology has done anything in reality.

If he could do anything he want, why he make ancient people copy other peoples religious traditions????

Why cant he make himself known for real if he was not a man made creation?
These question you may chould direct to Him at Judgement day .
 

The Emperor of Mankind

Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
do you pretending that you ignore the answser ?

Islam (submission to God) does not come with Muhammad (pbuh) , he cames with Adam (pbuh) , and Noah and Ibraham (pbuh) , .... all prophet and messangers are Muslims .

Well this isn't surprising from the member of a religion which blatantly plagiarised features of earlier belief systems such as scriptures and started labelling them as Muslim scriptures.
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) destroyed Idols inside Kabba , because Kabba is house is built by Ibrahim (pbuh) , so it's had no to do with Pagan . it's belong to Muslims .

I think , God will punish just disbelievers whom heard about Islam , whom never heard about Islam or mislead by media that's up to him to forgive them .
Why would you think that buying into Islam would have any bearing on someone being punished? With all do respect, there are a plethora of valid reasons for not buying into every belief system. And, currently, it seems stranger and stranger what evidence people are willing to disregard in the interest of keeping their faith. Shouldn't God reward skeptical thought as long as a person is living a good life, contributing to the greater good?

If God is cruel enough to punish for refusing to buy into a specific religion, he can't be claimed as just or moral. If that is the case, God is spiteful.
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
God creat you , and God will make you die ,and God do whatever He want , so if you had power equal to His, or you are His partner , then you had right to critize His decisions .
So those with power should be obeyed and honored? How can you think God would be so cruel? We have power over children, and we create them. So, should we be able to kill them whenever we want?
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
So those with power should be obeyed and honored? How can you think God would be so cruel? We have power over children, and we create them. So, should we be able to kill them whenever we want?
Actuatly father and mother don't creat the baby , God which creat by reason of instinct ,so they produce .

God do whatever He want , since He is Master , He had no partner .
 

DawudTalut

Peace be upon you.
IS
Al Qaeda
Boko Haram
Somali Pirates (I forget the name)
...etc.

Why does Islam seem to lend itself so easily to being 'hijacked' by terror groups and pirates and kidnappers? Why don't they use Wicca, or Asatru, or Christianity or...anything else? Why does it always seem to be this religion? I'm banking on it having something to do with Islam.
Peace be on you.
Just by abusing one word "Jihad".
Then many advantage-takers use these groups and snow ball rolls.
The right philosophy @ https://www.alislam.org/jihad/
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
Actuatly father and mother don't creat the baby , God which creat by reason of instinct ,so they produce .

God do whatever He want , since He is Master , He had no partner .
This is actually a disturbing vision of the nature of God, imho. Just out of curiosity, is this present in Islam, or is this more your own take on the subject? Because, I think of God as being free from human imperfections like spite, revenge, vengeance, jealousy, ruthlessness, etc.
 

The Emperor of Mankind

Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
Actuatly father and mother don't creat the baby , God which creat by reason of instinct ,so they produce .

God do whatever He want , since He is Master , He had no partner .

It's this sort of woolly thinking, this sort of drivelly cop-out that reinforces the stereotype that Muslims are intellectually stunted.

It's rather odd, then, that offspring never seem to materialise out of thin air - that they only ever grow in a woman's womb after the woman's ovule has been fertilised with sperm - which is always supplied by a man (at least second-hand). Surely there'd be a lot more immaculate conceptions going on if Allah was the one responsible.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Do you know what he wants to do?

Because nothing has ever been observable of that concept doing anything.
in Islam , God did not creat us for no reason , He creat us to worship Him .
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
This is actually a disturbing vision of the nature of God, imho. Just out of curiosity, is this present in Islam, or is this more your own take on the subject? Because, I think of God as being free from human imperfections like spite, revenge, vengeance, jealousy, ruthlessness, etc.
Love is also human imperfection , do think God don't love His followers ?

I believe God is the Justice .
 
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