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Islam, how much do you really know about it?

ThereIsNoSpoon

Active Member
go and check NASA site that is the numbers there
and the numbers are true
even in the site you gave me
so what should i do
and until now the numbers are true
and won't change until apeace of the land disappear which didn't happen until now
71.11 % = 70.8% .... interesting :)
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
Islam is fair to people and it has the highest quality of Human rights. if a nation follows tradition and call it Islam, then they are doing wrong. real Islamic state is not voice of none. i personally don't know a nation that practices democracy on Earth, not even one! as Iran call its system Islamic but it is not really Islamic, Western call their system democracy but it is not democracy. world leaders are such a bad jokes.



OK :) forgive me that i can't see meaning if saying was baseless. i understand your point tough.

love

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Democracy is by no means perfect and with it comes responsibility because you have a voice and a vote that counts which determines who will be in power.
You say that Islamic states such as Iran and Saudi are wrong and Islamic Human rights are of the highest quality LOL this i find ridiculous.
 

K.Venugopal

Immobile Wanderer
Islam is fair to people and it has the highest quality of Human rights. if a nation follows tradition and call it Islam, then they are doing wrong. real Islamic state is not voice of none. i personally don't know a nation that practices democracy on Earth, not even one! as Iran call its system Islamic but it is not really Islamic, Western call their system democracy but it is not democracy. world leaders are such a bad jokes.
Are you saying Islam has not been put in practice anywhere with success, like democracy? Well, democracy does not claim to be a system that God made, unlike Islam.
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
yes sure it is amazing what you can get from abook
you doen the first part of the job
now can you link that numbers to any thing the book speak about
moby dick or the sea or the ship or even people who watched the movie
i got number from words and the result take me back to ascientific fact about that words
now you only got the numbers connect them with words

My point is that you can determine anything you want from any book like the hidden code in the Talmud,everything you claim has been claimed before in this forum and all it proves to me is i am so glad i live in a secular country.
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
yes sure it is amazing what you can get from abook
you doen the first part of the job
now can you link that numbers to any thing the book speak about
moby dick or the sea or the ship or even people who watched the movie
i got number from words and the result take me back to ascientific fact about that words
now you only got the numbers connect them with words

Tell me this,if your book is so complete and it has all these wonderous things in it why do Muslims interpet it in different ways and some to disastrous ends.
If your book is so complete why is it stuck in the middle ages,why do Muslims arrogantly say this is the one true faith when there is no proof it is,there are many questions but the answers will be few.
 

pharon85

Member
Democracy is by no means perfect and with it comes responsibility because you have a voice and a vote that counts which determines who will be in power.
You say that Islamic states such as Iran and Saudi are wrong and Islamic Human rights are of the highest quality LOL this i find ridiculous.
i will give you example there are 2 egyptian doctors in jail now in saudia arabia
they were accused of drug selling
the judge say the punish is 15 years and lashing for 1500 time
in islam there are no punishment like that at all
but saudi claims it is islamic state
so when some one like you hear about that he will say that is the islam
which is very far away from the truth
and i will give you important information
there are no islamic state use the real islamic law
you speak about democracy ok
i will gave you example
let is be about election
when prophet mohamed died he didn't say who will the leader of moslems after him
what did moslems did
they did what is in quran
and what is quran ?
a full chapter called elshora wish mean consulting
وَالَّذِينَ اسْتَجَابُوا لِرَبِّهِمْ وَأَقَامُوا الصَّلَاةَ وَأَمْرُهُمْ شُورَى بَيْنَهُمْ وَمِمَّا رَزَقْنَاهُمْ يُنْفِقُونَ
(42:38
people who did orders of god and pray and they consult each other and from what we gave them they spend )
so they elected a man by voting
and that last for 4 times ,they elected leaders
then some one make a war and be the leader and make the leadership just in his family
so kingdom system is not in islam
the leader must be elected
so what do you think it is islamic state and the system is kingdom is doing some thing against islam orders
is that make the problem with islam or with the people who don't follow the order of it
 

CHATTERBOX

Christian
I know little about Islam and I have some sincere questions. Is the word Allah a generic word for God or is it the name of God? For example: In English we might say that money is a god. Can we say that money is an Allah or is that name reserved for only one god? Or, is the title of the true God? Thanks for any response to the question.
 

pharon85

Member
Tell me this,if your book is so complete and it has all these wonderous things in it why do Muslims interpet it in different ways and some to disastrous ends.
If your book is so complete why is it stuck in the middle ages,why do Muslims arrogantly say this is the one true faith when there is no proof it is,there are many questions but the answers will be few.
i will ask you a question islam in earth 1400 years ago have you heared before the last 30 years about islamic terrorism?
if that things that tell moslems to kill every one who is not moslem in quran
why didn't that happen before
the answer is money how did alqada started ?
CIA train peolpe for killing for the war against sovit union and provide them with guns
until they win the war
the CIA men like ben laden at that time told people it is holly war and moslems from all over the world should join them
and they did
when the war is over and the people wanted to back to their countery's
their governments see dangerous
well trained people on killing what can they do?
they did what they were trained for
we have seen terrorism ,the same as you see now killing and bombs even we are moslems
but the west at that time thought it still can use them against their countries
so they let them live there and when their countries asked the west to deliver them
the west refused
so that is what get the terrorist to you
some one want to kill he will see the order of fighting in quran but he won't see the order of not killing civilian
and people who is stuck in the middle ages not quran
when moslems stuck to their quran thay started the sciences which europe take from
search for moslems scientist at that time
like gaber ebn hian who started algebra , algebra from gaber
the problem for moslems now that they are not stuck to islam
we don't say that just god sent truth to us
the truth is one all over the history
but people changed it
the truth that is god is one which all prophets from adam to mohamed say
so there is only one religion from the begining say god is one and you must whorship him
all prophets came to say that
you say there are no proof that islam is true
here i speak about science in quran
yesterday i speak about 5 things proved by science in quran
have any one who search for the truth comment on that
no
just one speak about pigs and say that is his opinion that is no harm on it is meat
and when i asked him to get a proof for that ,he didn't say a word
i want you to comment on that things
and tell me is it scientific or not
 

pharon85

Member
I know little about Islam and I have some sincere questions. Is the word Allah a generic word for God or is it the name of God? For example: In English we might say that money is a god. Can we say that money is an Allah or is that name reserved for only one god? Or, is the title of the true God? Thanks for any response to the question.
the name is reserved for only one god
the title for the only god the creator
 

pharon85

Member
Many diverse subjects are mentioned in the Qur'an while also inviting people to believe. Sometimes the heavens, sometimes animals, and sometimes plants are mentioned as evidence of Allah's existence. In many of these verses, people are called upon to consider their own creation. They are often reminded how man came into the world, which stages he has passed through, and what his essence is:
It is We Who have created you. Why, then, do you not accept the truth? Have you ever considered that [seed] which you emit? Is it you who create it? Or are We the Creator? (Qur'an, 56:57-59)
The miracle of man's creation is emphasised in many verses. Some of the information within these verses is so detailed that it was impossible for anyone living in the 7th century to have known it. Examples of these are as follows:
1. Man is not created from the entire semen, but only a very small portion of it (sperm).
2. It is the male that determines the sex of the baby.
3. The human embryo adheres to the mother's uterus like a leech.
4. The embryo develops in three dark regions in the uterus.
The items of information just quoted were far above the level of learning of the people living at that time. The discovery of these facts could only become possible by the technology attained in the 20th century.
Now, let us examine these items one at a time.
A Drop of Semen
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In the picture to the left, we see semen ejected into the uterus. Only very few sperms out of 250 million sperms emitted from the male can make it to the ovum. The sperm that will fertilise the egg is the only one out of a thousand sperms that have managed to survive.​
The fact that man is made not from the entire semen—but only a small part of it—is related in the Qur'an with the expression, "a drop of ejected semen."​
Sperm undertake a journey into the mother's body until they reach the ovum. Only a thousand out of 250 million sperm succeed in reaching the ovum. At the end of this five-minute race, the ovum, half the size of a grain of salt, will let only one of the sperms in. That is, the substance of man is not the whole semen, but only a small part of it. This is explained in the Surat al-Qiyama as follows:
Does man reckon he will be left uncontrolled [without purpose]? Was he not once a drop of ejected semen? (Qur'an, 75:36-37)
As we have seen, the Qur'an informs us that man is made not from the entire semen, but only a small part of it. That the particular emphasis in this verse announces a fact only discovered by modern science is evidence that the Qur'an is the Word of Allah.
 

pharon85

Member
Many diverse subjects are mentioned in the Qur'an while also inviting people to believe. Sometimes the heavens, sometimes animals, and sometimes plants are mentioned as evidence of Allah's existence. In many of these verses, people are called upon to consider their own creation. They are often reminded how man came into the world, which stages he has passed through, and what his essence is:
It is We Who have created you. Why, then, do you not accept the truth? Have you ever considered that [seed] which you emit? Is it you who create it? Or are We the Creator? (Qur'an, 56:57-59)
The miracle of man's creation is emphasised in many verses. Some of the information within these verses is so detailed that it was impossible for anyone living in the 7th century to have known it. Examples of these are as follows:
1. Man is not created from the entire semen, but only a very small portion of it (sperm).
2. It is the male that determines the sex of the baby.
3. The human embryo adheres to the mother's uterus like a leech.
4. The embryo develops in three dark regions in the uterus.
The items of information just quoted were far above the level of learning of the people living at that time. The discovery of these facts could only become possible by the technology attained in the 20th century.
Now, let us examine these items one at a time.
A Drop of Semen
sperm.jpg
In the picture to the left, we see semen ejected into the uterus. Only very few sperms out of 250 million sperms emitted from the male can make it to the ovum. The sperm that will fertilise the egg is the only one out of a thousand sperms that have managed to survive.​
The fact that man is made not from the entire semen—but only a small part of it—is related in the Qur'an with the expression, "a drop of ejected semen."​
Sperm undertake a journey into the mother's body until they reach the ovum. Only a thousand out of 250 million sperm succeed in reaching the ovum. At the end of this five-minute race, the ovum, half the size of a grain of salt, will let only one of the sperms in. That is, the substance of man is not the whole semen, but only a small part of it. This is explained in the Surat al-Qiyama as follows:
Does man reckon he will be left uncontrolled [without purpose]? Was he not once a drop of ejected semen? (Qur'an, 75:36-37)
As we have seen, the Qur'an informs us that man is made not from the entire semen, but only a small part of it. That the particular emphasis in this verse announces a fact only discovered by modern science is evidence that the Qur'an is the Word of Allah.
 

pharon85

Member
The Mixture in the Semen
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In the Qur'an, it is said that masculinity or femininity are created out of "a drop of semen which has been ejected." Until fairly recently, it was believed that a baby's sex was determined by the mother's cells. Science only discovered this information given in the Qur'an in the 20th century. This and many other similar details about the creation of man were stated in the Qur'an centuries ago.
The fluid referred to as semen, which contains the sperm, does not consist of sperm alone. On the contrary, it is made up of a mixture of different fluids. Seminal fluid is a collection of substances secreted from the testicles, the seminal vesicles, the prostate gland and glands linked to the urinary tract. A detailed analysis of this fluid shows that it consists of a great many separate substances, such as citric acid, prostaglandin, flavin, ascorbic acid, ergothioneine, cholesterol, phospholipids, fibrinolysin, zinc, phosphatase acid, phosphase, hyaluronidase and sperm. These fluids exercise different functions, such as containing the sugar necessary for providing energy for the sperm, neutralizing the acids at the entrance of the uterus, and providing a slippery substance for the easy movement of the sperm.
When semen is mentioned in the Qur'an, this fact, which was discovered by modern science, is also referred to, and semen is defined as a mixed fluid:
We created man from a mingled drop to test him, and We made him hearing and seeing. (Qur'an, 76:2)
In other verses, semen is again referred to as a mixture, and it is stressed that man is created from the "extract" of this mixture:
He Who has created all things in the best possible way. He commenced the creation of man from clay; then He made his progeny from an extract of discarded fluid. (Qur'an, 32:7-8)
The Arabic word "sulala," translated as "extract," means the essential or best part of something. By either meaning, it refers to "part of a whole." This shows that the Qur'an is the Word of Allah, Who knows the creation of man to its minute details.
The Sex of the Child
Until fairly recently, it was thought that a baby's sex was determined by the mother's cells. Or at least, it was believed that the sex was determined by the male and female cells together. But, we are given different information in the Qur'an, where it is stated that masculinity or femininity is created out of "a drop of sperm which has been ejected."
He has created both sexes, male and female from a drop of semen which has been ejected. (Qur'an, 53:45-46)
Was he not a drop of ejaculated sperm, then a blood-clot which He created and shaped, making from it both sexes, male and female? (Qur'an, 75:37-39)
The developing disciplines of genetics and molecular biology have scientifically validated the accuracy of this information given by the Qur'an. It is now understood that sex is determined by the sperm cells from the male, and that the female has no role in this process.
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The Y chromosome carries characteristics of masculinity, while the X chromosome carries those of femininity. In the mother's egg, there is only the X chromosome, which determines female characteristics. In the semen from the father, there are sperms that include either X or Y chromosomes. Therefore, the sex of the baby depends on whether the sperm fertilising the egg contains an X or Y chromosome. In other words, as stated in the verse, the factor determining the sex of the baby is the semen, which comes from the father. This knowledge, which could not have been known at the time when the Qur'an was revealed, is evidence to the fact that the Qur'an is the Word of Allah.
Chromosomes are the main elements in determining sex. Two of the 46 chromosomes that determine the structure of a human being are identified as the sex chromosomes. These two chromosomes are called "XY" in males, and "XX" in females, because the shapes of the chromosomes resemble these letters. The Y chromosome carries the genes that code for masculinity, while the X chromosome carries the genes that code for femininity.
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The formation of a new human being begins with the cross combination of one of these chromosomes, which exist in males and females in pairs. In females, both components of the sex cell, which divides into two during ovulation, carry X chromosomes. The sex cell of a male, on the other hand, produces two different kinds of sperm, one that contains X chromosomes and the other Y chromosomes. If an X chromosome from the female unites with a sperm that contains an X chromosome, then the baby is female. If it unites with the sperm that contains a Y chromosome, the baby is male.
In other words, a baby's sex is determined by which chromosome from the male unites with the female's ovum.
None of this was known until the discovery of genes in the 20th century. Indeed, in many cultures, it was believed that a baby's sex was determined by the female. That was why women were blamed when they gave birth to girls.
Fourteen centuries before human genes were discovered, however, the Qur'an revealed information that denies this superstition, and referred to the origin of sex lying not with women, but with the semen deriving from men.
 

pharon85

Member
The " Alaq" Clinging to the Uterus
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In the first phase of its development, the baby in the mother's womb is in the form of a zygote, which clings to the uterus in order to take nourishment from the mother's blood. In the picture above is a zygote, which looks like a piece of flesh. This formation, which has been discovered by modern embryology, was miraculously stated in the Qur'an 14 centuries ago with the word "alaq," which means "a thing that clings to some place" and is used to describe leeches that cling to a body to suck blood.​

If we continue to examine the facts announced to us in the Qur'an, about the formation of human beings, we again encounter some very important scientific truth.
When the sperm of the male unites with the ovum of the female, the essence of the baby to be born is formed. This single cell, known as a "zygote" in biology, will instantly begin reproducing by dividing, and eventually become a "piece of flesh," called an embryo. This, of course, can only be seen by human beings with the aid of a microscope.
The embryo, however, does not spend its developmental period in a void. It clings to the uterus, with something like roots that is firmly fixed to the earth by its tendrils. Through this bond, the embryo can obtain the substances essential to its development from the mother's body.85
Here, an important miracle of the Qur'an is revealed. While referring to the embryo developing in the mother's womb, Allah uses the word "alaq" in the Qur'an:
Recite: In the name of your Lord Who created man from alaq. Recite: And your Lord is the Most Generous. (Qur'an, 96:1-3)
The meaning of the word "alaq" in Arabic is "a thing that clings to some place." The word is literally used to describe leeches that cling to a body to suck blood.
Certainly, the use of such a specific word for the embryo developing in the mother's womb, proves once again that the Qur'an is the Word of Allah, the Lord of all the Worlds.
The Wrapping of Muscles over the Bones
Another important item of information provided in the verses of the Qur'an is the developmental stages of a human being in the mother's womb. It is stated in these verses that in the mother's womb, the bones develop first, and then the muscles form which wrap around them.
[We] then formed the drop into a clot and formed the clot into a lump and formed the lump into bones and clothed the bones in flesh; and then brought him into being as another creature. Blessed be Allah, the Best of Creators! (Qur'an, 23:14)
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The bones of the baby completing its development in the mother's womb are clothed with flesh during one particular stage exactly as stated in the Qur’an.
Embryology is the branch of science that studies the development of the embryo in the mother's womb. Until very recently, embryologists assumed that the bones and muscles in an embryo developed at the same time. Yet, advanced microscopic research conducted by virtue of new technological developments has revealed that the revelation of the Qur'an is word for word correct.
These observations at the microscopic level showed that the development inside the mother's womb takes place in just the way it is described in these verses. First, the cartilage tissue of the embryo ossifies. Then, muscular cells that are selected from amongst the tissue around the bones come together and wrap around the bones.
This event is described in a scientific publication titled Developing Human in the following words:
… [T]he shape of the skeleton determines the general appearance of the embryo in the bones stage during the 7th week; muscles do not develop at the same time but their development follows soon after. The muscles take their positions around the bones throughout the body and therefore clothe the bones. Thus, the muscles take their well known forms and structures… The stage of clothing with muscle occurs during the 8th week…86
In short, developmental stages of man, as described in the Qur'an, are in perfect harmony with the findings of modern embryology.
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Many stages of a baby's development in the mother's womb are related in the Qur'an. As described in Surat al-Muminun 14, the cartilage of the embryo in the mother's womb ossifies first. Then these bones are covered with muscle cells. Allah describes this development with the verse: "… [We then] formed the lump into bones and clothed the bones in flesh."
 

pharon85

Member
Three Dark Stages of the Baby in the Womb
In the Qur'an, it is related that man is created through a three-stage process in the mother's womb.
... He creates you stage by stage in your mothers' wombs in threefold darkness. That is Allah, your Lord. Sovereignty is His. There is no god but Him. So what has made you deviate? (Qur'an, 39:6)
The expression "fee thulumatin thalathin," translated into English as "a threefold darkness," indicates three dark regions involved during the development of the embryo. These are:
The darkness of the abdomen
The darkness of the womb
The darkness of the placenta
As we have seen, modern biology has revealed that the embryological development of the baby takes place in the manner revealed in the verse, in three dark regions. Moreover, advances in the science of embryology show that these regions consist of three layers each.
The lateral abdominal wall comprises three layers: the external oblique, the internal oblique, and transverses abdominis muscles.87
Similarly, the wall of the womb also consists of three layers: the epimetrium, the myometrium and the endometrium.88
Similarly again, the placenta surrounding the embryo also consists of three layers: the amnion (the internal membrane around the fetus), the chorion (the middle amnion layer) and the decidua (outer amnion layer.)89
It is also pointed out in this verse that a human being is created in the mother's womb in three distinct stages.
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Indeed, modern biology has also revealed that the baby's embryological development takes place in three distinct regions in the mother's womb. Today, in all the embryology textbooks studied in departments of medicine, this subject is taken as an element of basic knowledge. For instance, in Basic Human Embryology, a fundamental reference text in the field of embryology, this fact is stated as follows:
The life in the uterus has three stages: pre-embryonic; first two and a half weeks, embryonic; until the end of the eight week, and fetal; from the eight week to labor.90
These phases refer to the different developmental stages of a baby. In brief, the main characteristics of these developmental stages are as follows:
- Pre-embryonic Stage
In this first phase, the zygote grows by division, and when it becomes a cell cluster, it buries itself in the wall of the uterus. While they continue growing, the cells organize themselves in three layers.
- Embryonic Stage
The second phase lasts for five and a half weeks, during which the baby is referred to as an "embryo." During this stage, the basic organs and systems of the body start to appear from the cell layers.
- Foetal Stage
From this stage onward, the embryo is called a "foetus." This phase begins at the eighth week of gestation, and lasts until the moment of birth. The distinctive characteristic of this stage is that the foetus looks much like a human being, with its face, hands and feet. Although it is only 3 cm long initially, all of its organs have become apparent. This phase lasts for about 30 weeks, and development continues until the week of delivery.
Information on the development in the mother's womb became available only after observations with modern devices. Yet, just like many other scientific facts, in a miraculous way, Allah draws our attention to these items of information in the verses of the Qur'an. The fact that such detailed and accurate information was given in the Qur'an at a time when people had scarce information on medical matters is clear evidence that the Qur'an is the Word of Allah.
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In Surat az-Zumar 6, it is pointed out that man is created in the mother's womb in three distinct regions. Indeed, modern embryology has revealed that the baby's embryological development takes place in three distinct regions in the mother's womb.
 

pharon85

Member
Allah created every [living] creature from water. Some of them go on their bellies, some of them on two legs, and some on four. Allah creates whatever He wills. Allah has power over all things. (Qur'an, 24:45)
Do those who disbelieve not see that the heavens and the earth were sewn together and then We unstitched them and that We made from water every living thing? So will they not believe? (Qur'an, 21:30)
And it is He Who created human beings from water and then gave them relations by blood and marriage. Your Lord is All-Powerful. (Qur'an, 25:54)
When we look at the verses concerned with the creation of human beings and living things, we clearly see evidence of a miracle. One such miracle is of the creation of living things from water. It was only possible for people to come by that information, clearly expressed in those verses, hundreds of years afterwards with the invention of the microscope.
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All life forms need water in order to survive. Animals in dry regions, therefore, have been created with mechanisms to protect their metabolisms from water loss and to ensure maximum benefit from water use. If water loss takes place in the body for any reason, and if that loss is not made good, death will result in a few days. The famous 17th century scientist Jan Baptista van Helmont discovered in 1640s that water in the soil was the most important element of plant development.
The words "Water is the main component of organic matter. 50-90% of the weight of living things consists of water" appear regularly in encyclopaedias. Furthermore, 80% of the cytoplasm (basic cell material) of a standard animal cell is described as water in biology textbooks. The analysis of cytoplasm and its appearance in textbooks took place hundreds of years after the revelation of the Qur'an. It is therefore impossible for this fact, now accepted by the scientific community, to have been known at the time the Qur'an was revealed. Yet, attention was drawn to it in the Qur'an 1,400 years before its discovery.
 

pharon85

Member
all that things proved by science were mentioned in quran 1400 years ago
no human at that time know any thing about that
so if a human write that how would he get the informations
so who wrote it???????
 

pharon85

Member
My point is that you can determine anything you want from any book like the hidden code in the Talmud,everything you claim has been claimed before in this forum and all it proves to me is i am so glad i live in a secular country.
didn't i ask you to link ?
is the answer is no i cant
it is easy to get numbers and codes but what does it mean
i didn't get just numbers and codes
it is numbers from words connected to science fact
 

ThereIsNoSpoon

Active Member
all that things proved by science were mentioned in quran 1400 years ago
no human at that time know any thing about that
so if a human write that how would he get the informations
so who wrote it???????
Could you please stop spaming around ?
Your copy paste of known articles from known bogus sites is rather boring.
Can't You write something on your own ?

Why dont you copy the text that the earth was created in 6 days and tell me how science prooved that too ? Or how about the stars that were created to drive away devils ?
Did Allah create the earth first or the heavens ? Did he at all start with this solar system ?
And why would the heavens fall down on earth ?
Mountains that have been set on earth ... everything created in pairs ....fishs swallowing men, people living almost a 1000 years .....the sun sets near a murky pool of water .... pharaos cruxifying people (i thought the romans invented that;) )... a floating sun, animals created with either no, two or 4 legs ...
Oh my this is sooo scientific....

PS: Yeah you told me to "check" nasa.... well my friend, how about a link ? ;)
 

pharon85

Member
it doesn't matter copy and paste
what is matter is that true or not
you told me before you can answer what you wish and i will replay with what i want
here is the link
NASA - Earth
what you ask i answered
can you please give me a link for what i say before about the bible?
i say i didn't find , you say that don't mean it is not exist
ok find it or discuess with me about it
 
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