tumbleweed41
Resident Liberal Hippie
301's reasoning is no different than those who look at the acts of a few radicals and assume that all of Islam is the same.
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301ouncer
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The social issues in Sweden are the same as in any other secular country, Teen pregnancy, Highest Depression in the EU, Drugs, alcoholism, and a myriad of other problems that crop up in just about every other secular socially backward country in the world.
Fredrik Lindström, linguistic researcher and stand-up comedian, once said about Sweden: "The worst people in the world live in the best country in the world." What he meant by this is that while civilization is highly developed in Sweden, the people living there fail to meet the basic abilities of members of even the most primitive of tribes: social isolation is common, depression is on the rise, especially among teenagers, the police only solve six percent of all heavy crime, and the isolationist mentality among Swedes fears conflict and authority at all costs. The Swedish people are intelligent, creative and polite, but socially and emotionally neurotic.
301ouncer
Well-Known Member
Sorry for taking time to answer as been busy...
Nudists want naked Sydney beach:
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...ked-sydney-beach/story-e6freuy9-1111118080040
Nudists to Lobby Capitol Hill This Week:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/05/nudist-lobby-comes-to-was_n_211773.html
You see this is how it works....
Media hype = debate = lobbying = demoncrazy motions = Nude bill rejected.
More media hype = more debate = lobbying/armtwisting = more motions = Nude bill passed.
This same backward and dark system is applied in the same manner to every other in the presuite of happiness and freedom of expression secular mandate tools.
And....finally.....you can not do jack about it. You will be arrested, fined and given a crimial record in exercizing your freedom. That is "IF" you are going to do anything about it.
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Swedes are far from the worse people in the world. Granted, there are issues, some of them of what you mentioned (even though you generalize a bit much and make some issues out to be worse then they really are), however there are issues in every country and every society. Secularism has nothing to do with it, the human factor do.
You did appear to miss my point, though. Sweden and the US does not have the same system. Not even close. The fabric of the society is entierly different, partly because while the US has historically been drawn to the right Sweden has historically been drawn to the political left. You can say whatever you want about this or that country, but you can´t group countries together and talk about a "secular system", because there is none. The societies are not the same because they are secular anymore then two theorocraties are (sorry for the poor spelling).
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301ouncer
Well-Known Member
Actually I stay away from blind generalizing. I look at evidence and base my backed up generalization from these same fruits/evidence of the system.
I also do not make issues out to be worse then they really are:
Baby Stabbed: Newborn in Fullerton Stabbed to Death, Teen Mom Charged - latimes.com
Secular satanica has everything to do with it. I base it from my system in that human beings are pure from creation and only Satan who corrupted man in the first instance. Just as Satan corrupted our pure forefather ADAM pbuh so is secular satanica has been corrupting mankind ever since:
FOXNews.com - Police: Detroit strip club employed 14-year-old
You will be basically back where you started from, well and truely. Which is...is Sweden implementing a christian system or a secular system (many faceted)?
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You do indeed generalize. For example, you said:
"isolationist mentality among Swedes fears conflict and authority at all cost"
Which happens to be a generalization.
Also the links you post are meaningless, since crimes happen in all countries and since the link has nothing to do with Sweden anyway.
Unfortunately reality is not that simplistic. The human mind is extremely complicated, no external force is needed to corrupt it.
Secular.
301ouncer
Well-Known Member
I did not say any such things. It was said by the swedish linguistic researcher. His words not mine.
In my opinion they are very meaningful. The first paragraph was about sweeden the rest was a reply to your general input.
The crimes and sinns are nothing in comparison. like an ant to an elephant.
I see your point in the wonderous complicasity of the human brain but everything is corruptable. I have evidence.
Thank you v.much with a touch of creator denial.
301ouncer
Well-Known Member
Ahh. another fallen comrad. RIP - Rest In Peeice. (spell check) :yes:. Right at the mission critical point you desert us.
Do send us a Autographed/Sealed postcard/transcript from the secular secluded island. Just make sure you do not edit it and send it to the wrong address.
Address: 301, beverlyhills bouv. RF32134.
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DeitySlayer
President of Chindia
Slightly glorified linguistics for an internet discussion.
If you don´t agree with him then why post it
?And I happen to disagree with him.
You are confusing. And no, they are not meaningful. Anyone can post links of crimes in any country and use it to prove a point, that does not make the point correct.
Lol, what are you talking about? Crimes happen everywhere, secular or not secular.
Where did I say the human mind is not corruptable? I said no external force is needed.
And thank you very much with a touch of being delusional.
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301ouncer
Well-Known Member
If you don´t agree with him then why post it
And I happen to disagree with him.
I did not say I disagree as it is coming from a swedish person himself. I agree with him as long as it backs up my evidence. You said I said it. I said he said it.
Yes I think it does. When all statistical analysis put together and technical indicators which I use in my work alot you get the whole picture. Very simple.
Yes one piece of information will not make much difference. Take this for example the most richest nations which are secular are top in fraud:
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_fra_percap-crime-frauds-per-capita
Why? they dont have money? Jobs? Ofcourse they have. It is called financial decedence as well as moral decedence. Multibilliion money corruption.
Not in comparison no matter which way you look at it. I really do not find it funny as it is really hurting many people. This backward dwarfing darkness in peacefull and civil socities never been known before in chistendom nor caliphate accept in pagan rome.
you welcome. this is only my views which everything is linked to each other and also linked to the 4 missing links. Promise no delusions but real hard evidence. All else is pure noise and spin.
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301ouncer
Well-Known Member
As I am a man of my word. Inside of me as a human being that cares for everyone. Here please help me understand this system and if I am liar as you say:
Just today. I counted 11. One hedious sin after the other. One poor soul and victime touched by this fire after another:
Today's page http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/default.stm
'No chance to end murders sooner'
Man admits killing brother, nine
Morphine deaths GP is struck off
Boy denies raping younger sister
Man charged over fatal stabbing
Appeal over 'nasty' street attack
Man injured in homophobic attack
Murder charge over missing Pole
Bogus vets guilty of fraud
Man admits killing elderly mother
'Mr Gay UK' Pc faces sex charges
Tantrum toddler 'thrown off bus'
This is really depressing for all the people that experiencing this darkness. Depresssion is caused by secularisim.
gnostic: Is this system a christendom or caliphate?
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gnostic
The Lost One
Crime existed everywhere and in every community.
What you've lied about, is when you've twisted what I've posted. I've never mention Hilaly as being a "gang preacher" - those were your words, not mine, you stupid lying twit. What I've said, and what you I have said, is totally different. I would have given you a benefit of doubt, and had you admitted you have misunderstood what I've written. But no, what you did was twisted what I have said, so it is now on record that you have deliberately lie about me and what I've wrote.
You called me a liar, and yet you won't admit that you've basically lie about what I've said. Other members have pointed out that you've lied, but you dodge and evade them in order to avoid admitting your mistake or your lie.
And if you're not going to apologise for this lie, not that I believe any apologies from you would be sincere, then I really have nothing more to say to you.
What you've lied about, is when you've twisted what I've posted. I've never mention Hilaly as being a "gang preacher" - those were your words, not mine, you stupid lying twit. What I've said, and what you I have said, is totally different. I would have given you a benefit of doubt, and had you admitted you have misunderstood what I've written. But no, what you did was twisted what I have said, so it is now on record that you have deliberately lie about me and what I've wrote.
You called me a liar, and yet you won't admit that you've basically lie about what I've said. Other members have pointed out that you've lied, but you dodge and evade them in order to avoid admitting your mistake or your lie.
And if you're not going to apologise for this lie, not that I believe any apologies from you would be sincere, then I really have nothing more to say to you.
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True, I misunderstood your post at the moment I posted the post. But it does not matter if you hold that opinion, since it is wrong. And as to my evidence... I know Swedes that would disagree and that are not like that. Personal experience has higher value then a quote.
They don´t give you a whole picture if you only use a part of the picture.
Greed can drive anyone nuts.
You are still very confusing. In comparisment to what?
And crimes still happen everywhere.
Lol, so convincing evidence you come with
.Besides, I only used the word "delusional" because I disliked your tone
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tumbleweed41
Resident Liberal Hippie
The honesty of this is very reveling.
Breathe
Hostis humani generis
I'd laugh if it wasn't so scary in an intellectually dishonest way.
Marsh
Active Member
The video is a little disconcerting. As a secularist I am a little concerned, however, there may be mediating factors that the video doesn't acknowledge, such as the secularization of Islam in the West. I know of quite a few Muslim girls (grades one to eight) who come to school dressed in shorts and t-shirts. The parents of these girls don't seem to be a threat to secularism. Secularism, like Hellenization in the past, has quite a strong appeal and may win the day.
dogsgod
Well-Known Member
Can you say, subjective validation?
301ouncer
Well-Known Member
How come UAE has no such greed? It is one of the richest states in the world?
I shall say in this case secular blind greed and it is overall financial decedence is the main cause.
Greed is not something to be proud of. It is one of the worst abhorrent crimes in the sight of the creator. As it so blinding that not even the needy and the orphan is saved from it:
BBC NEWS | UK | England | Manchester | Charity manager jailed for fraud
BBC NEWS | UK | Wales | South West Wales | Star 'shocked' at charity fraud
Civil and peacefull christendom states. Caliphate state. Muslims in current islamic lands.
Even friendship in secular socities kinda shaky at best of times: BBC News - Chester student 'set on fire' at end-of-year party
Nothing in comparison. An ant to an elephant.
I never heard or seen from any social historical evidence of an adult man killing/stabbing his own 8 year old brother in christendom nor Calipate nor any such news from current muslim lands ? Man admits killing brother, nine
Lol, so convincing evidence you come with
Besides, I only used the word "delusional" because I disliked your tone
Mountain of evidence from secular and its athistic mother's fruits. I did tell you before. Darkness upon darkness with no end in sight. Dwarfing social, financial, environmental darkness.
The Cast of usual suspects: Descartes, Newton, Darwin, and Freud:
Rene Descartes: The philosopher Descartes (1596-1650), is usually viewed as the thinker who ushers in the modern era. It is little surprise that as thinkers after Descartes followed his exaltation of human reason that they strayed further and further away from the truth of God.
Isaac Newton: Isaac Newton lived during the same era as Descartes. Newton exerted an immense influence on the development of modern science. He astounded Europeans with his development of the science of physics, especially through his discovery of the laws of gravity. At the time, Newton's discoveries seemed to "solve" most of the mysteries of the physical world. The whole universe appeared so orderly, so governed by laws, that it could be compared to a giant clock. Drawing on this image, many people after Newton adopted a novel and erroneous view of God.
Charles Darwin: Modern science developed under the illusion that its explanation of physical causes abolished the need to "bring God into the picture" in order to explain the mysteries of the universe. It was inevitable that this scientific "pride" would eventually lead to the philosophy of naturalism–the denial of God and the belief that the natural world, the world of matter, is all there is.
Sigmund Freud: From Darwin's theory that man descends from apes, it is but a small step to the psychological theories of Sigmund Freud.
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