Islam will dominate!

[301ouncer]

I once hypothesized that our dear friend 301 was a Poe. Someone who is trying to skew people's perception of Muslims (how they act, how they think) in order to generally "give Muslims a bad name". I also said that, based on his behavior, he was either a Poe or someone who was deluded to the point of insanity. In order to give 301 the benefit of the doubt, I went with Poe. I'm beginning to think I was wrong and that option B may be closer to the truth.

Our dear friend eve.

You welcome to attack my personality all you like. You probably right. I never claimed to be a representive of Islam or muslims. I am just a nobody.

You probably right again in that this secular satanica system is driving billions into chronical depression and insanity.

 

[301ouncer]

You're full of it. If they were Christians you'd say they were christians. But because they're muslims, and you can't face the fact that not all muslims are good, you claim they're not muslims. Its weak, stop palming the blame off.

If you kindly re-read my posts more carefully. You would see that this secular youth gang had both musilm and christian arab/labanies names.

I do face the fact that they are brotherens of each other and brothers of million other gone astray secular youth.

I also if you read carefully I said that both muslims and christians washed their hands of these secular system fruits.

Jordanina, american, saudi, turkish secular youth are actually right now in the process of following this Monkey see Monkey do mentality.

I am not that shallow as I look beyond their religious backgrounds as their religious backgrounds is not implemented nor it is in operation.

Secularisim is implemented, in operation and in promotion.

This has nothing to do with secularism. The secularists wanted these kids bollocks on a plate.

Please try to keep private parts aside for now and look at the bigger picture. These kids are the fruits of it social, media and educational system.

It was no lie. The report said they were muslims. There is no dishonesty. The only dishonesty is your inability to comprehend anything. Why do even speak about the secular world when its obvious you havn't got a clue?

What is in common between them and the thousands of such crimes ie. California gang rape? is it in common is their church going? or is in common is their mosque going? Niether I guess but in common is secular system.

As a secular youth (sort of, im 20) in Australia i can tell you that you are offensive, out of line, ignorant, arrogant and should be quite apologetic considering how many honest, hard working youth's you just insulted.

If you re-read my post again I said gone astray secular australian youth and not just "australian youth". Two completly different things so not sure why you should feel insulted?

On the other hand to attribute none church goers/Mosque goers, crack pot smoking, womanisers to being true examples of christains and muslim. When in fact they are following the indoctrainted secular values. This is an Insult.

 

[Thesavorofpan]

As prophesied or will it be reversed?

(1) It is He Who has sent His Messenger (Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسل&#1605 with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam), to make it superior over all religions even though the Mushrikun (polytheists, pagans, idolaters, disbelievers in the Oneness of allah) hate (it).
( سورة التوبة , At-Taubah, Chapter #9, Verse #33)

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Muslims Are Taking Over The World at an ALARMING Rate

I can see this happening, but only to for fill the second coming of Christ. If all the nation's were an Islamic Republic who would stop them from beating up on poor little Israel.

 

[Kerr]

Please try to keep private parts aside for now and look at the bigger picture. These kids are the fruits of it social, media and educational system.

They are people who make choices. And what social, media and educational system? There are many. Which one?

 

[darkendless]

If you kindly re-read my posts more carefully. You would see that this secular youth gang had both musilm and christian arab/labanies names.

I do face the fact that they are brotherens of each other and brothers of million other gone astray secular youth.

I also if you read carefully I said that both muslims and christians washed their hands of these secular system fruits.

Jordanina, american, saudi, turkish secular youth are actually right now in the process of following this Monkey see Monkey do mentality.

I am not that shallow as I look beyond their religious backgrounds as their religious backgrounds is not implemented nor it is in operation.

Secularisim is implemented, in operation and in promotion.

Funny, i live in Australia and i guarantee you that half the countries you do not know what a secular country is.

The reason this is an issue is not only because there was gang rape (which statistically is higher among muslims), but because a muslim leader tried to excuse the actions, and do what you're doing, which is blame the secular world.

The reason you are as shallow as a paddling pool is because i can see from your posts that you actually don't know how secular society works. You think you do but really you don't. My society is as moral as yours. They reason you attack it, is because these morals are different to yours.

Secular ideals are promoted as freedom from oppresive religious dogma, freedom to practice religion and freedom to speak your mind. Thats why a lot of muslims havn't been jailed for their hideous attacks on the culture of this country.

Please try to keep private parts aside for now and look at the bigger picture. These kids are the fruits of it social, media and educational system.

Its a figure of speech. Essentially, your brothers tried to make excuses for rapists. The same way you're making excuses by blaming secularism for everything. Your arguements are weak but you're very skilled in the art of circular reasoning.

What is in common between them and the thousands of such crimes ie. California gang rape? is it in common is their church going? or is in common is their mosque going? Niether I guess but in common is secular system.

The funny thing is there is no correlation. Stop grabbing at straws. Something really funny though is violent crime is higher amongst muslims in Australia and yet islam is apparently the religion of peace.

As a resident and citizen of a secular nation, its common for local youth's to fear muslim gangs who brutally bash innocent people. Ever heard of the Cronulla riots? This sort of thing started those.

What is even more funny is that i can actually speak about this without looking stupid because 1) i live in a secular country and 2) my muslim friends think your posts in this thread are hilarious.

If you re-read my post again I said gone astray secular australian youth and not just "australian youth". Two completly different things so not sure why you should feel insulted?

My apologies for the confusion. I did not mean to be rude. I was incorrect.

On the other hand to attribute none church goers/Mosque goers, crack pot smoking, womanisers to being true examples of christains and muslim. When in fact they are following the indoctrainted secular values. This is an Insult.

Well its not my problem that muslims can't follow their religious practices properly. Its not the fault of anyone but the people themselves. You can't blame anything else because there are muslims in Australia who follow their religion properly. Therefore it is only the fault of the people.

 

[301ouncer]

I like the world I'm living in now thank you very much.

U welcome. No one is forcing any change. I am merely preporting my opinions and my views.

I am not that old. Bearly in my late 20's so I also like the world I am living with the loved and Creator concience people. I just do not want this fire of darkness touching these loved beings.

Your use of showing horrible crimes does not support your case. Men are naturally evil no matter what religion is at the top there will be horrible crimes like this.

I look at trends, bull markets and bear markets. Secularisim has been for awhile in a bull market trend. Since it is an active bull market trend you have many many people buying its fruits. Only very very few selling.

Fruits of treatement of woman in secularisim: Women killed in restaurant shooting -  World News - MSN News UK

 

[301ouncer]

1Judge not, that ye be not judged. 2For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

I feel like you are taking out of context time periods. If you agree then all is fine but if you disagree then you have contradicted your ownself.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

 

[301ouncer]

I'm sorry, but when did exactly Abraham remove all those idol's because I don't remember it happening.

OT:

estroy all of that land; beat down their pillars and break their statues and waste all of their high places, cleansing the land and dwelling in it.
For I have given it to you for a possession.
Old Testament Numbers 34:52, 53

NT:

"Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? Ye are even My witnesses. Is there a God beside Me? Yea, there is no God; I know not any. They that make a graven image are all of them vanity; and their delectable things shall not profit; and they are their own witnesses; they see not, nor know; that they may be ashamed. Who hath formed a god, or molten a graven image that is profitable for nothing? Behold, all his fellows shall be ashamed: and the workmen, they are of men: let them all be gathered together, let them stand up; yet they shall fear, and they shall be ashamed together." (Isaiah 44:8-11 KJV)

Quran:

(51) [Ibrahim (abraham)] said: "Nay, this one, the biggest of them (idols) did it. Ask them, if they can speak!"
( سورة الأنبياء , Al-Anbiya, Chapter #21, Verse #63)

 

[301ouncer]

Personally speaking, I have not given the BBC much credit for a few years now... not since they have been overtaken by "Leftards".

You serious? the likes of BBC, Aljazeerah english, etc have the most strictest board of governance and scrutinised by a panel of ethical editorial code of practise representatives.

 

[301ouncer]

Clearly, I believed that you have misunderstood me.

This sentence clearly distinguish (in red) 2 different people.

1. Bilal Skaf, gang leader.
2. Hilaly, Islamic imam.

So English, is only your second language. What I've written should not be construed as

At no time, did I call the imam Hilaly, your "gang preacher". You did.

It is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. I am a man of my word. Actually three words:

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He clearly blame the girl for the rape, giving sympathy to the gang-rapists sympathy for the harsh sentence.

Can I have the whole transcript with an AUTOGRAPH/SEAL from him clearly showen on the transcript saying he clearly blamed the girls for the rape. NO AUTOGRPAH/SEAL do not bother. :sorry1:

I find it strange that Muslims have no qualms about stoning and flogging women for adultery

Since you have no idea what is at stake in the olden days of the honour of their woman meant to them. Therefore you will never grasp these captial punishments nor woman's honour, family honour and tribe. Wars used to start over woman/affairs/adultry,etc in pagan arabia. Almost like today. Ignorance was the norm therefore you have two options:

1. Stone/flogg a woman/man with 4 witnesses or:
2. Wars for decades and the killing of woman/child/young and old?

Your choice?

Or

3. adultry, extra marital affairs, broken homes, STD, astray youth and teenage pragnancies, baby abortions, single mother chronical depression?

Again your choice?

There is a similarity between you and the gang rapist leader. Both of you blind a girl or woman for the rape, because of what she might wear, hence you think the rapist is not responsible.

You are also like this disgusting imam. Both of you not only blame the girl, but what you have written in this forum is basically the same what Hilaly said too. You describe a woman as an "uncovered meat", hence she is responsible if she is devour by animal. Hilaly said the same thing, but he used "cat" than your more generic "animal".

Can you stop saying my personality sick? I have not showen any sickness here. unless you forgot it was a nonmuslim scandanivan friend of mine who coined the phrase. All i said as you clearly blinding yourself is that " IT bring the wrong men/Beast to use and abuse the uncovered meat" I did not say "RAPE". I said "IT DID NOT HELP". Ofcourse the dress does not help. does it? Because this same dress code could bring a good father, an abuser, a user, a rapist.

Why leave it to chances?

I don't think all Muslims, only sick ones like you, the gang rapists, and this imam, and people of similar minds as you.

When someone lies and edits his posts, then you have the right to call them a lier and expose his personality. I am not sick therefore stop attacking my personaility.

Go on, and make your accusation that I am liar, because everyone here can see that you have lie, and not just about gang-rape, but making all the false claims about secularism.

Ok. no problem will come back to you and see if you can expose my lies about this secular sick system. You will be an expert by the time I finished with you.

 

[301ouncer]

social

Persuit of happiness.

media

Hollywood/bollywood/sexwood.

educational system

heavy evolotionary darwinisim and secular education. 32 hours of secular VS 1 hour religious twisted studies.

 

[Badran]

Since you have no idea what is at stake in the olden days of the honour of their woman meant to them. Therefore you will never grasp these captial punishments nor woman's honour, family honour and tribe. Wars used to start over woman/affairs/adultry,etc in pagan arabia. Almost like today. Ignorance was the norm therefore you have two options:

1. Stone/flogg a woman/man with 4 witnesses or:
2. Wars for decades and the killing of woman/child/young and old?

Your choice?

Or

3. adultry, extra marital affairs, broken homes, STD, astray youth and teenage pragnancies, baby abortions, single mother chronical depression?

Again your choice?

Okay, i just want to clarify, that this represents 301's personal view on things.

 

[301ouncer]

clearly you are not a "true muslim" as i see badran and lava because you have been tainted by "secular satanic"
but in a more serious note. which would you prefer to live in "christendom" and be murdered for being stubborn and "muslim satanic"
or to live in the caliphate state and be forced to do what is "muslim and proper" and be punished if you believe they are wrong on what is "muslim and proper".

you welcome to see whoever you like as a true muslim. I do not answer to you but to my creator.

Sorry have to go for now but will come to answer the rest.

 

[Thesavorofpan]

I look at trends, bull markets and bear markets. Secularisim has been for awhile in a bull market trend. Since it is an active bull market trend you have many many people buying its fruits. Only very very few selling.

Fruits of treatement of woman in secularisim: Women killed in restaurant shooting - Â*World News - MSN News UK

Like I said before with every society your going to have crimes there is no getting away from it.

 

[Thesavorofpan]

I feel like you are taking out of context time periods. If you agree then all is fine but if you disagree then you have contradicted your ownself.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

Read the context of the scripture again.

 

[Thesavorofpan]

OT:

estroy all of that land; beat down their pillars and break their statues and waste all of their high places, cleansing the land and dwelling in it.
For I have given it to you for a possession.
Old Testament Numbers 34:52, 53

NT:

"Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? Ye are even My witnesses. Is there a God beside Me? Yea, there is no God; I know not any. They that make a graven image are all of them vanity; and their delectable things shall not profit; and they are their own witnesses; they see not, nor know; that they may be ashamed. Who hath formed a god, or molten a graven image that is profitable for nothing? Behold, all his fellows shall be ashamed: and the workmen, they are of men: let them all be gathered together, let them stand up; yet they shall fear, and they shall be ashamed together." (Isaiah 44:8-11 KJV)

Quran:

(51) [Ibrahim (abraham)] said: "Nay, this one, the biggest of them (idols) did it. Ask them, if they can speak!"
( سورة الأنبياء , Al-Anbiya, Chapter #21, Verse #63)

First of all, Abraham died in Genesis the 25th chapter to be exact. What you quoted is the law's being passed down from God to Moses.
Second Isaiah is still Old testament. New testament doesn't start until the gospels.

 

[jamesdominic]

religion has nothing to do with it.
it's all about money and power
it's who wins and get to stay and who loses and goes home.

 

[Kerr]

Persuit of happiness.

Hollywood/bollywood/sexwood.

heavy evolotionary darwinisim and secular education. 32 hours of secular VS 1 hour religious twisted studies.

Sorry, that is just shallow generalizations without much foundation in reality. The system, the base of a society, can be extremely different from one country to another.

 

[Kerr]

Can you stop saying my personality sick? I have not showen any sickness here. unless you forgot it was a nonmuslim scandanivan friend of mine who coined the phrase. All i said as you clearly blinding yourself is that " IT bring the wrong men/Beast to use and abuse the uncovered meat" I did not say "RAPE". I said "IT DID NOT HELP". Ofcourse the dress does not help. does it? Because this same dress code could bring a good father, an abuser, a user, a rapist.

Why leave it to chances?

Are you saying good men turn into rapists because of how woman dress?

 

[Kerr]

It is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. I am a man of my word. Actually three words:

Last edited by gnostic; Yesterday at 05:09 PM..

I checked the post in question. No edit. Checked your link. The post was edited but it was not the post I thought you where responding to. Is this the post you responded to:
http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/2045997-post989.html
Or is this the one:
http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/2045894-post973.html