It is time to impeach da racists!!

[Sunstone]

From a political standpoint, Mike Pence (who would presumably become president if Trump were impeached) is worse than Trump. Pence has more or less the same policies as Trump, and would attempt to do much the same as Trump in terms of wrecking the New Deal, Great Society, and other programs while turning us into a theocracy, but Pence is both brighter and more competent than Trump. So politically I am tempted to say leave Trump in office. He's the lesser of the the two.

Yet, there's one over-riding reason why Trump should be removed from office even though it would be political disaster for Progressives if he was. That reason is thermonuclear war. Trump has both "aggressor" and "fool" written all over him, and he had those things written all over him even since before the election. Anyone who has taken a fair and accurate measure of the man knows this. I think that -- under various "right" circumstances -- Trump could wittingly or unwittingly initiate a nuclear exchange, and that the chances of his doing so are significantly greater than the chances of Pence (or most other people) doing so. Therefore, if there were some way to safely remove him from office, I'd be for it, even if that meant a President Pence.

 

[Quetzal]

I know it's the liberal's wet dream, but it's just not gonna happen for any reason yet presented.
1) No compelling basis
2) Insufficient support
3) Are you one of those who think he's crazy?
Imagine how the impeachment process would affect him.
Remember that he has the biggest button.

Furthermore, I am not ready to settle with the idea of Pence taking the bridge.

 

[The Kilted Heathen]

Sessions is next in line after that, isn't he?

So we impeach the person who hurt feelings and sentiments, and replace him with the person who has actually done things against the American people. Brilliant.

 

[Revoltingest]

Furthermore, I am not ready to settle with the idea of Pence taking the bridge.

Aye, he's not my first choice for the captain's chair.
I'd expect a requirement to pass a Bible quiz before
getting me Social Security payments each month.

 

[Enoch07]

Are you saying your opinions are free of bias?

As far as Democrat/Republican political parties, yes. Because I am neither.

 

[Quetzal]

So we impeach the person who hurt feelings and sentiments, and replace him with the person who has actually done things against the American people. Brilliant.

Right, this is my process as well. Even IF we got rid of Trump and Pence (not going to happen), then Paul Ryan is up to bat. Yeah no thanks. At least right now we can attempt to contain Trump due to his lack of experience and inability to negotiate.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

As far as Democrat/Republican political parties, yes. Because I am neither.

Then presumably you're biased against both of them.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

There are 2 kinds of crazy....
1) Clinical crazy
2) "Crazy" used as an insult against those with whom we disagree.

You've only got a big steaming pile of number two.
No matter how fervently the left will claim that, they won't get
enuf support to convict, even if they do manage impeachment.

I understand that Wolff’s Book claims that the 25th Amendment comes up fairly often in discussions by Trump’s advisors.

 

[Revoltingest]

I understand that Wolff’s Book claims that the 25th Amendment comes up fairly often in discussions by Trump’s advisors.

I can't speak to what's in his book.
Do you think it sheds light on the likelihood of impeachment?

 

[It Aint Necessarily So]

There are 2 kinds of crazy....
1) Clinical crazy
2) "Crazy" used as an insult against those with whom we disagree.

You've only got a big steaming pile of number two.
No matter how fervently the left will claim that, they won't get
enuf support to convict, even if they do manage impeachment.

The left? Did you mean the decent and sane? I'm pretty sure that some on the right fall into that category. Protecting America from Trump ought to be a bipartisan interest.

Trump is is a loose cannon losing control of his faculties. He needs to be 25th Amendment-ed out in a straitjacket.

Did you notice that Trump seemed to be unaware of the situation in Hawaii last Friday? He golfed right through it, and then later tweeted about an unrelated subject. This suggests that his handlers chose to keep him in the dark throughout.

If so, why would they choose to do that?

The best bet is that they didn't trust him with the information. What were they worried about?That Trump would order a retaliatory strike against Puerto Rico or Haiti? Even Bush was interrupted from his reading of My Pet Goat to school children during 911.

Trump needs to be removed quickly.

 

[It Aint Necessarily So]

Reasons to impeach him—

(1) Pathological liar

(2) Racists

(3) Threat to America’s national security

(4) _________________


There are more reasons, you fill in the blanks

• Increasingly demented (25th Amendment)
• Criminal tendencies (he'll surely be nailed ofr obstruction of justice and money laundering if not for colluding to sabotage the election)
• Emoluments violations
• Degrading America weekly
• Refusing to implement Russian sanctions

He's also Incompetent, but that is not grounds for impeachment. Just grounds for wanting to see him removed from power.

He also apparently has a penchant for porking porn (then paying them off to purchase their silence) stars even as his third wife was home pregnant, but that also is not illegal unless he grabs them by the p*ssy on camera.

 

[Enoch07]

Then presumably you're biased against both of them.

You presume wrong then. I like/dislike a lot of policies of both parties. Thats the great thing about being Libertarian is I can have the best of both worlds, without the drawback of being pigeonholed.

 

[It Aint Necessarily So]

Pence is a co-conspirator in the debacle, he will go toooooooo

Pence is presently refusing to voluntarily speak before any congressional investigative committee, but has announced to Mueller that he is willing to be deposed by him. What does that tell us?

Most Trump-Russia players did it the opposite way. Donald Trump Jr and others have been willing to submit to the questions of congressional committees, but not Mueller because the congressional investigations are not criminal investigations. The Republican-dominated committees have yet to punish any of Trump’s people for lying to them or misleading them. The only legal action has been taken against MI6 agent Christopher Steele, an innocent who investigated Trump.

So, why would Pence refuse to testify before a Republican-dominated congressional committee where he faces no real legal consequences while inviting Mueller to question him as part of a criminal investigation, one in which where four people have already been indicted and/or arrested?

It appears to me that Pence wants to make a deal with Mueller while he can, but doesn’t want to cheapen his value to Mueller by revealing what he knows to Congress. What else could it be?

Mueller's apparent lack of interest suggest that Flynn and Bannon, both of whom got to Mueller first, gave Muleller what he needs already. Mueller can is probably prepared to take Pence down now, and would only be interested in cutting a deal with him to get to Trump. Mueller also seems to not be seeking additional testimony there, either.

The test of this hypothesis is to see if it's implication come to pass, namely, that Mueller is just about prepared to drop the hammer on all of these deplorables, including Kushner and Trump Jr, within weeks if not days. Stay tuned.

 

[It Aint Necessarily So]

Trump’s true base represents 0.02% of the US electorate

It's probably closer to 20%. His approval rating is still around 30-35% of Americans, but 5-10% of those people might abandon him if they care about anything other than admitting an error in judgment on election day, or getting abortion criminalized again.

 

[David1967]

I know it's the liberal's wet dream, but it's just not gonna happen for any reason yet presented.
1) No compelling basis
2) Insufficient support
3) Are you one of those who think he's crazy?
Imagine how the impeachment process would affect him.
Remember that he has the biggest button.

Personally, I'm sick and d@#%$ tired of this impeachment craze that has been going on the laast several years. When Obama was President, many on the right wanted him impeached. Now Donald Trump is president and the left want him impeached. I don't see it actually happening anymore than I thought President Obama would be impeached. Fact of life. Once in a while people we don't like get elected. You want em impeached? Show your displeasure with them next election cycle and vote for the other guy, or girl whichever may be the case.

 

[Revoltingest]

The left? Did you mean the decent and sane? I'm pretty sure that some on the right fall into that category. Protecting America from Trump ought to be a bipartisan interest.

My spidersense tells me that the left predominates in calls for impeachment.

Trump is is a loose cannon losing control of his faculties. He needs to be 25th Amendment-ed out in a straitjacket.

Did you notice that Trump seemed to be unaware of the situation in Hawaii last Friday? He golfed right through it, and then later tweeted about an unrelated subject. This suggests that his handlers chose to keep him in the dark throughout.

If so, why would they choose to do that?

The best bet is that they didn't trust him with the information. What were they worried about?That Trump would order a retaliatory strike against Puerto Rico or Haiti? Even Bush was interrupted from his reading of My Pet Goat to school children during 911.

Trump needs to be removed quickly.

I don't see the HI incident as something Trump had address.
9/11 was a significant moment in history. As for Bush's
reading a book to children when it happened....meh.

 

[Stanyon]

Do you want me to rub some salve on your smarting little fannies?

 

[idav]

You presume wrong then. I like/dislike a lot of policies of both parties. Thats the great thing about being Libertarian is I can have the best of both worlds, without the drawback of being pigeonholed.

The drawback for me being independent, at least in 16 states, including mine, is I can’t vote for who I want in the primaries, leaving it up to our wonderful Repubs and Dems to make the choice for us, even so there are more independents than either of the big two. It’s absurd.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

I can't speak to what's in his book.
Do you think it sheds light on the likelihood of impeachment?

I’m not sure. And I was speaking about his removal of office by being declared unfit, not impeachment.

 

[Revoltingest]

I’m not sure. And I was speaking about his removal of office by being declared unfit, not impeachment.

Good luck with that.
Ref....
Why the 25th Amendment Doesn’t Apply to Trump—No Matter What He Tweets