It May Be The Taliban Has This Right.

[lewisnotmiller]

The core feature of Axiomatic Truth from God is that regardless of whoever would presume to supplant or surpass it will find their best efforts, rather, confirming it.

God's Word is written in Eternity, and is not affected by any person's action or thought upon it.

A Pleasure, once again.

I didn't ask whether you see it as true, though.
I asked whether the women should have a say in subscribing to this religion or not.

 

[Meow Mix]

I didn't ask whether you see it as true, though.
I asked whether the women should have a say in subscribing to this religion or not.

Women, having a say? Quelle progressivité!

 

[Jonathan27]

1) This depends on what sorts of strengths you're talking about, and how much it matters when there's not insignificant overlap. Then there's the fact that some sexed and gendered characteristics are more socially informed than biologically informed.

2) I'm probably an extreme liberal feminist to most, but hopefully our experiences won't be bad ^.^

3) This is a good example, agreed.



I try to hate the silly, not the goose. But yes, it can be difficult; especially when it's not only dealing with blatant misogyny and sexism, but all of the more insidious, implicit sorts day in and out as well. It can be exhausting, and I don't really blame women that lose their tempers or run out of mental stamina otherwise to deal with it.

There is a dilemma: "pick your battles" vs. "silence is assent."



Feminists aren't a monolith, ask two feminists one question and you'll probably still get two answers.



I've felt physically ill several times I've thought too hard about Afghan womens' plight (and the men, at that). There is a large local movement trying to get funds to help displaced Afghans, and we're looking into whether there is eventually any way to fund girls' education if the Taliban allows it and if we can be reasonably sure the funds won't be co-opted (I'm not optimistic about that one). I encourage everyone to consider the same.

Yes, the much longer road of funding a contemporary education for women will in fact reach the same specifications given by Scripture, where leadership capacity, decision making dynamics, the prioritizing of intuitive specific pursuits, adherence to principle, communication skills, and management of the material world reaches the inherent individual level.

After graduation from a program, I do admit such a woman will have achieved attire, grooming, and bearing.

Thank you.

 

[F1fan]

God's Word stands and lives apart from my thoughts.

Thank you for asking.

So you can't confirm that the Bible has any authority at all? Then what authority do men have over women if women object?

 

[Spirit of Light]

Yes, the much longer road of funding a contemporary education for women will in fact reach the same specifications given by Scripture, where leadership capacity, decision making dynamics, the prioritizing of intuitive specific pursuits, adherence to principle, communication skills, and management of the material world reaches the inherent individual level.

After graduation from a program, I do admit such a woman will have achieved attire, grooming, and bearing.

Thank you.

May i ask if you see female as lesser than male?

 

[Jonathan27]

I didn't ask whether you see it as true, though.
I asked whether the women should have a say in subscribing to this religion or not.

I have no authority over any woman to say what she should have. This is why I cited God's authoritative Word. It is available for you and for them as well.

Regards upon your decision.

 

[atanu]

Are you trying to be:
A) funny
B) sarcastic
C) serious

Some of us will benefit by knowledgeable and reasoned rebuttal, however.

 

[Meow Mix]

Yes, the much longer road of funding a contemporary education for women will in fact reach the same specifications given by Scripture, where leadership capacity, decision making dynamics, the prioritizing of intuitive specific pursuits, adherence to principle, communication skills, and management of the material world reaches the inherent individual level.

After graduation from a program, I do admit such a woman will have achieved attire, grooming, and bearing.

Thank you.

I'm not sure what you're saying here. You say that funding education for women will "reach the same specifications given by Scripture," but your original post advocated against educating women. What do you mean by "reaches the inherent individual level?"

I'm a woman, and I'm a Masters-to-PhD bridge astrophysics student. Do you think that's wrong?

 

[rational experiences]

When you read men quotes then read how they died. His story Paul says in evil ways.

Paul's is unknown but theists think and said beheading.

In Muslim that meant a criminal.

Rationally history... women stated to be at home to bare child life and safety. So was a stated protector of life continuance as man had made his home a fortress.

By building type. Clay and stone dug into the underground.

In olden days radiation pyramid fallout removed earths garden so covering of the human body was tantamount to survival.

Women wore black in continual mourning for life sacrificed.

Humans were told stay at home. They built underground tunnel systems for family visitation and food animal storage actually. Due to radiation effect.

Men said they had to travel abroad to bring prophecy advice to everyone about what occurred in their nations homeland when it was UFO nuked by chosen man science.

Every nation used and owned technology just as they all use weapon technology today. All men were guilty.

What you interpret today is false. As you are not relating space womb maths science female meanings as once taught. What was known gone from memory relating to philosophers stone...gold.

Radiation fallout heavy metal mind pollution caused dementia forgetfulness. Why life was living underground.

Underground deep water wells remained holy.

Underground life was less irradiated as stone was absorbing it first.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Are you trying to be:
A) funny
B) sarcastic
C) serious

Unfortunately, I think it is serious.

 

[Jonathan27]

May i ask if you see female as lesser than male?

There are a variety of comparisons between all Men and all Women, any given comparison surely showing no equality. There are, as well, aspects in their common which will demonstrate either lesser or greater capacity.

Is a dog lesser than a man? Not according to a dog standard, but surely according to both a human standard and a Divine standard.

Regards once again.

 

[Spiderman]

1) This depends on what sorts of strengths you're talking about, and how much it matters when there's not insignificant overlap. Then there's the fact that some sexed and gendered characteristics are more socially informed than biologically informed.

2) I'm probably an extreme liberal feminist to most, but hopefully our experiences won't be bad ^.^

3) This is a good example, agreed.



I try to hate the silly, not the goose. But yes, it can be difficult; especially when it's not only dealing with blatant misogyny and sexism, but all of the more insidious, implicit sorts day in and out as well. It can be exhausting, and I don't really blame women that lose their tempers or run out of mental stamina otherwise to deal with it.

There is a dilemma: "pick your battles" vs. "silence is assent."



Feminists aren't a monolith, ask two feminists one question and you'll probably still get two answers.



I've felt physically ill several times I've thought too hard about Afghan womens' plight (and the men, at that). There is a large local movement trying to get funds to help displaced Afghans, and we're looking into whether there is eventually any way to fund girls' education if the Taliban allows it and if we can be reasonably sure the funds won't be co-opted (I'm not optimistic about that one). I encourage everyone to consider the same.

Okay,
Extreme liberal

So far I haven't seen you say anything I object to or find irrational.

Yes, not all feminists are in agreement. I should not have spoken as if they were.

I sympathize with the overtaxing on one's mental stamina this all is, and the constant threat of eternal damnation or degrading talk from pious churchy folks would make me passionately nauseated.

I mean it does, but I can only imagine your struggles as a woman's rights advocate, and I don't know how feminists don't lose their minds when they read threads like this, or read about little girls getting their genitals mutilated in the name of Allah, shot for going to school for religious reasons, sexually assaulted or gang-raped for not abiding by dress-code, the trafficking, the brainwashing, the robbing women of basic liberties, keeping women ignorant, intimidated, and narrow minded, and countless other things done in the name of an Ancient text (that contradicts itself + causes incessant bloodbaths and wicked violent regimes) I would be very bitter.

I'm growing more and more sympathetic towards the angry bitter feminists. I'm not saying most are, but it would be a chronic temptation and struggle for me.

The original post here just made me ill because of things I heard from Muslims recently, as well as videos I saw of ISIS and Taliban dragging women into streets and stoning them, children smashing their heads with cinder blocks , burying them up to their neck, crucifying young girls, executing them in a stadium while shouting "Allah is Great"!

That mentality has it's roots in Scripture and people who have a conscience need to oppose it , even if they are not liberals or atheists.

 

[Jonathan27]

When you read men quotes then read how they died. His story Paul says in evil ways.

Paul's is unknown but theists think and said beheading.

In Muslim that meant a criminal.

Rationally history... women stated to be at home to bare child life and safety. So was a stated protector of life continuance as man had made his home a fortress.

By building type. Clay and stone dug into the underground.

In olden days radiation pyramid fallout removed earths garden so covering of the human body was tantamount to survival.

Women wore black in continual mourning for life sacrificed.

Humans were told stay at home. They built underground tunnel systems for family visitation and food animal storage actually. Due to radiation effect.

Men said they had to travel abroad to bring prophecy advice to everyone about what occurred in their nations homeland when it was UFO nuked by chosen man science.

Every nation used and owned technology just as they all use weapon technology today. All men were guilty.

What you interpret today is false. As you are not relating space womb maths science female meanings as once taught. What was known gone from memory relating to philosophers stone...gold.

Radiation fallout heavy metal mind pollution caused dementia forgetfulness. Why life was living underground.

Underground deep water wells remained holy.

Underground life was less irradiated as stone was absorbing it first.

Thanks so much.

 

[Spirit of Light]

There are a variety of comparisons between all Men and all Women, any given comparison surely showing no equality. There are, as well, aspects in their common which will demonstrate either lesser or greater capacity.

Is a dog lesser than a man? Not according to a dog standard, but surely according to both a human standard and a Divine standard.

Regards once again.

I hope you did not just compared woman to Dogs If you did i understand why you see Talibans view of woman as right

 

[lewisnotmiller]

I have no authority over any woman to say what she should have. This is why I cited God's authoritative Word. It is available for you and for them as well.

Regards upon your decision.

I struggle to see how the Taliban has it right, then, given that they would take away this free right for a women to choose whether she subscribes to their beliefs or not.
Indeed, I would see that as a fundamental issue.

 

[Meow Mix]

There are a variety of comparisons between all Men and all Women, any given comparison surely showing no equality. There are, as well, aspects in their common which will demonstrate either lesser or greater capacity.

Is a dog lesser than a man? Not according to a dog standard, but surely according to both a human standard and a Divine standard.

Regards once again.

Actually, there is an abundance of scientific evidence showing there are many forms of equality between the sexes, such as in cognitive capacity, memory, verbal ability, science and mathematical skill, spatial reasoning (with some social caveats), and more. I have access to papers through my university if you'd like me to post any in full.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

God's Word can be applied and understood only by those who submit to Him through Jesus Christ.

Regards.

I am a Christian and the treatment you suggest for women is not how it has been put to me to interpret.

 

[Meow Mix]

Okay,
Extreme liberal

So far I haven't seen you say anything I object to or find irrational.

Yes, not all feminists are in agreement. I should not have spoken as if they were.

I sympathize with the overtaxing on one's mental stamina this all is, and the constant threat of eternal damnation or degrading talk from pious churchy folks would make me passionately nauseated.

I mean it does, but I can only imagine your struggles as a woman's rights advocate, and I don't know how feminists don't lose their minds when they read threads like this, or read about little girls getting their genitals mutilated in the name of Allah, shot for going to school for religious reasons, sexually assaulted or gang-raped for not abiding by dress-code, the trafficking, the brainwashing, the robbing women of basic liberties, keeping women ignorant, intimidated, and narrow minded, and countless other things done in the name of an Ancient text (that contradicts itself + causes incessant bloodbaths and wicked violent regimes) I would be very bitter.

I'm growing more and more sympathetic towards the angry bitter feminists. I'm not saying most are, but it would be a chronic temptation and struggle for me.

The original post here just made me ill because of things I heard from Muslims recently, as well as videos I saw of ISIS and Taliban dragging women into streets and stoning them, children smashing their heads with cinder blocks , burying them up to their neck, crucifying young girls, executing them in a stadium while shouting "Allah is Great"!

That mentality has it's roots in Scripture and people who have a conscience need to oppose it , even if they are not liberals or atheists.

I have my days that I run out of spoons.

It's up to all of us to make a better world for everybody. That's about as much of an uphill battle as I can imagine. I, too, don't begrudge people for being bitter; though I don't think it always helps to change minds. I still get it all the same.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Actually, there is an abundance of scientific evidence showing there are many forms of equality between the sexes, such as in cognitive capacity, memory, verbal ability, science and mathematical skill, spatial reasoning (with some social caveats), and more. I have access to papers through my university if you'd like me to post any in full.

I would be interested if you happen to have a good review paper on the subject. Or the best paper(s) in your opinion.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

God's Word stands and lives apart from my thoughts.

Thank you for asking.

But you are making an interpretation with your mind and applying that to how those that control and entire country treat the women in that country.