Italian writer against women choosing the bear: hating men has become fashionable

[Revoltingest]

No.

Lies in court are common, but aren't really allowed.
They're simply not pursued when the court isn't
interested in them, eg, not material to the case.

 

[Estro Felino]

American men (and men in most other countries) aren't crucified. They have it really good, actually, and don't need your defense.

American women are perfectly sweet and able to manage their anger. That's why it's generally the men you see with anger problems. That's why so many women choose the bear.

I was trying to make you understand how bad overgeneralization is.
Of course American women are all different.

But you cannot overgeneralize about men either. No double standards. It's not nice.

 

[Magic Man]

I was trying to make you understand how bad overgeneralization is.
Of course American women are all different.

But you cannot overgeneralize about men either. No double standards. It's not nice.

You're welcome to point out where I "overgeneralized" about men. (It'll be pretty tough, considering it didn't happen.)

 

[Stevicus]

Well...women in real life are also these.

I'll have to view this later.

 

[Estro Felino]

There's a reason so many women carry mace, try to not walk to their cars alone at night, carry a key between their fingers, and are generally anxious when alone with men they don't know. They don't hate men; they've just had enough bad experiences with them to be very wary of them.

You're welcome to point out where I "overgeneralized" about men. (It'll be pretty tough, considering it didn't happen.)

In the above statement.
It seems you are implying that most women have had bad experiences with male strangers.

Unless you point out what you mean by bad experience.

 

[Magic Man]

Well...women in real life are also these.

I wouldn't use Fox News as a source.

 

[Magic Man]

In the above statement.
It seems you are implying that most women have had bad experiences with male strangers.

Unless you point out what you mean by bad experience.

Saying that most women have had bad experiences with male strangers is not overgeneralizing about men. You'd have to point to where that says anything about most or all men. (Which, of course, it doesn't.)

 

[Revoltingest]

Well...women in real life are also these.

That victim was subject to Obama's Title 9 process,
which presumes men to be guilty. (I've covered
this extensively in other threads.)

Oh, to be young & single again....but back in the 70s.
Nowadays, romantic encounters should have contractual
agreement. To a guy, just being accused is a potentially
life changing event, even if acquitted.

One never knows the sanity & morals of people that one
encounters. I've met people (male & female) who seemed
initially normal, only to later learn they're sociopaths,
dishonest, predatory, & delusional. I've known one such
serial killer, many predatory people, one child molester,
and a few schizophrenics. (Landlords meet a whole lotta
people, & we become privy to much info about their lives.)

 

[Estro Felino]

Saying that most women have had bad experiences with male strangers is not overgeneralizing about men. You'd have to point to where that says anything about most or all men. (Which, of course, it doesn't.)

What do you mean by bad experience?

 

[Estro Felino]

Oh, to be young & single again....but back in the 70s.
Nowadays, romantic encounters should have contractual
agreement. To a guy, just being accused is a potentially
life changing event, even if acquitted.

One never knows the sanity & morals of people that one
encounters. I've met people (male & female) who seemed
normal, only to later learn they're sociopaths, dishonest,
predatory, & delusional. I've known one such serial killer,
many predatory people, one child molester, and a few
schizophrenics. (Landlords meet a whole lotta people,
& we become privy to much info about their lives.)

These episodes take place because mainstream feminism has become a machine that encourages women to do certain things.

 

[Revoltingest]

These episodes take place because mainstream feminism has become a machine that encourages women to do certain things.

Calling it "feminism" is too broad. It's only a misandrist
sub-set of feminism. And it affects more than just women,
eg, Obama's corruption of Title 9 law to become guilty til
proven innocent. Most feminists with whom I discuss such
issues with don't think that way.

 

[Magic Man]

What do you mean by bad experience?

Groping, sexual assault, rape, among other things.

 

[Revoltingest]

Saying that most women have had bad experiences with male strangers is not overgeneralizing about men. You'd have to point to where that says anything about most or all men. (Which, of course, it doesn't.)

Most men I know have had bad experiences with
women too, eg, they hit, they touch inappropriately,
they make false accusations. These are things I've
experienced. Yet I've never done any of those things.
Any woman who met me in the woods would be
fortunate. I carry a phone, flashlight, extra water & food.
If they can tolerate my appearance & aroma, I'd share.
Oh, I once pulled a gal from a raging river after her
canoe tipped over. Gawd....that was over 50 years ago.
I'd forgotten about it.

 

[Estro Felino]

Calling it "feminism" is too broad. It's only a misandrist
sub-set of feminism. And it affects more than just women,
eg, Obama's corruption of Title 9 law to become guilty til
proven innocent. Most feminists with whom I discuss such
issues with don't think that way.

People don't realize how far it has gone. Like this woman: in order to accuse the male gender, in order to show the world how much she hates men, she bought a hammer and beat herself. Eleanor Williams: CCTV shows false rape claim woman's movements

 

[Estro Felino]

Groping, sexual assault, rape, among other things.

My best friend is a very disinhibited woman who has had dozens of boyfriends in her life.
She has assured me that no man has ever touched her without her consent.

As for me...yes I was groped in the university dormitory and in the subway...but I survived.
It didn't traumatize me at all. I still am into men.

 

[Magic Man]

Calling it "feminism" is too broad. It's only a misandrist
sub-set of feminism. And it affects more than just women,
eg, Obama's corruption of Title 9 law to become guilty til
proven innocent. Most feminists with whom I discuss such
issues with don't think that way.

Can you give details about your claim that Obama corrupted Title 9?

 

[Magic Man]

My best friend is a very disinhibited woman who has had dozens of boyfriends in her life.
She has assured me that no man has ever touched her without her consent.

As for me...yes I was groped in the university dormitory and in the subway...but I survived.
It didn't traumatize me at all. I still am into men.

Your anecdotal evidence is noted but not helpful for anything. Whether or not you survived or were traumatized isn't the issue. You're downplaying it there. And women who are assaulted by men still tend to be "into men", if they were in the first place.

A lot of, probably most, women have had such bad experiences with men, often regularly. Whether or not they survive or are traumatized or are still into men after is irrelevant.

 

[Colt]

This is Yasmina Pani, a very outspoken writer and teacher who writes about linguistics.

She wrote this article where she explains that so many women chose the bear (in that idiotic survey) because hating men (which is also called misandry) has become something fashionable and cool. The purpose is to create a new wave of feminism that can sell.
Meglio incontrare l'orso: la moda di odiare gli uomini
If you are interested in the whole article, and have Google Chrome, you can click on the right key of the mouse and choose Translate into English.

I totally agree with her. I mean...
I think that the results in that survey show how misandry is a brand that sells. And it has become something absolutely laughable and paradoxical.
I mean, statistically meeting strangers in a wood can be risky, but not as risky as meeting a wild bear.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Since American men are crucified all the time...

They are? Who?

I was trying to defend them...and being their advocate, by saying that American women should try to manage their anger better, and to be sweeter.

We've all heard this bit of nonsense before ... "smile sweetheart!"
I'll smile when I choose, thanks. Go worry about your own smiling. I'm not obligated to smile at you.

Or is it just men that can be crucified?

Who's being crucified?

 

[Estro Felino]

They are? Who?

We've all heard this bit of nonsense before ... "smile sweetheart!"

That was my impression.
It was to make you understand that overgeneralizing about women is as bad as overgeneralizing about men.