Italian writer against women choosing the bear: hating men has become fashionable

[Kfox]

What do you think we were trying to tell you guys with #MeToo?

#MeToo does not make your absurd claims

Same goes for the bear thing.

the bear thing does not make your absurd claims

You can believe what we tell you. Or dismiss it.

I believe what they say, but not what you say; because what you say is absurd

 

[SkepticThinker]

#MeToo does not make your absurd claims

Yep, they do. I was part of it. You should have paid better attention. Sad to see you don't seem to be doing that now either.

You couldn't even be bothered to quote my post in it's entirety, and instead cut out the parts you didn't like. Just like you're doing with #MeToo and the bear scenario.

the bear thing does not make your absurd claims

Yep it does.

I believe what they say, but not what you say; because what you say is absurd

LOL

What have I said that's so absurd and so different from everyone else?

 

[Kfox]

What have I said that's so absurd and so different from everyone else?

That nearly every single day of your life, you are harassed or endangered by a man in some way or another, and this is the case for all women. As mentioned before, I believe it happens far more than it should, but nearly every single day? Naaaw that's exaggeration.

 

[SkepticThinker]

That nearly every single day of your life, you are harassed or endangered by a man in some way or another, and this is the case for all women. As mentioned before, I believe it happens far more than it should, but nearly every single day? Naaaw that's exaggeration.

I said on a regular basis. Several times now. I gave many examples. This is the case for the majority of women. Yes. I'm not some special person that this only happens to or something. The statistics bear this out. Women's response to the bear question bear this out. My life experiences bear this out.

You disagree because you think it sounds absurd. I agree at least to that much, it is absurd that women have to deal with the nonsense on a regular basis.

 

[Kfox]

I said on a regular basis. Several times now. I gave many examples.

No you didn't, you didn't give a single example of it happening on a regular basis, you gave an example of something happening last weekend, then something else happening last year. That's not a regular basis. When I tried to get specifics from you, you resorted to accuse me of not listening to you.

 

[JIMMY12345]

This is Yasmina Pani, a very outspoken writer and teacher who writes about linguistics.

She wrote this article where she explains that so many women chose the bear (in that idiotic survey) because hating men (which is also called misandry) has become something fashionable and cool. The purpose is to create a new wave of feminism that can sell.
Meglio incontrare l'orso: la moda di odiare gli uomini
If you are interested in the whole article, and have Google Chrome, you can click on the right key of the mouse and choose Translate into English.

I totally agree with her. I mean...
I think that the results in that survey show how misandry is a brand that sells. And it has become something absolutely laughable and paradoxical.
I mean, statistically meeting strangers in a wood can be risky, but not as risky as meeting a wild bear.

Women are clobbering men.They slowly make up most of the Doctors Accountants and professions etc .In 50 years they will dominate car repairs and plumbing.
Guys let them.We deserve to put our feet up.

 

[Revoltingest]

Women are clobbering men.They slowly make up most of the Doctors Accountants and professions etc .In 50 years they will dominate car repairs and plumbing.
Guys let them.We deserve to put our feet up.

I'm way ahead of'm.
Mrs Revolt brings home the bacon in our household.
My feet are up at this very moment.

 

[Kfox]

What do you think we were trying to tell you guys with #MeToo?
Same goes for the bear thing.

I will tell you what they are NOT saying with #MeToo, they are not saying they are being assaulted and attacked every day of their lives, the same for the bear thing.if you disagree provide something associated with #MeToo that says this

 

[Kfox]

Women are clobbering men.They slowly make up most of the Doctors Accountants and professions etc .In 50 years they will dominate car repairs and plumbing.
Guys let them.We deserve to put our feet up.

Though women are much more common in the workplace than ever before, one place they are not taking over is in the physically demanding manual labor type job, men will always dominate there

 

[SkepticThinker]

I will tell you what they are NOT saying with #MeToo, they are not saying they are being assaulted and attacked every day of their lives, the same for the bear thing.if you disagree provide something associated with #MeToo that says this

Your mansplaining just never gets old. Neither does your inability to listen and recall things people have said.

Please do tell me more about what #MeToo is/was about. You're obviously more in-the-know about it than I am. I just marched alongside other women saying the same things I was saying . What do I know though, right?
Apparently we need a man like you to tell us all what it's really about. Just like you did with the bear scenario.

 

[Magic Man]

I will tell you what they are NOT saying with #MeToo, they are not saying they are being assaulted and attacked every day of their lives,

True. So, I guess it's a good thing no one here is saying that either. We're saying women face bad/creepy behavior on a near daily basis. Assault and attacks are only part of that behavior.

the same for the bear thing.if you disagree provide something associated with #MeToo that says this

Kind of the same here. Again, the reason they're choosing the bear is all of those experiences of bad behavior with men. That's the entire point of the question. It's the entire point of them choosing the bear. It's odd that you still don't understand this.

 

[Kfox]

Your mansplaining just never gets old.

Your womansplaining is getting kinda old

Please do tell me more about what #MeToo is/was about. You're obviously more in-the-know about it than I am. I just marched alongside other women saying the same things I was saying . What do I know though, right?

You apparently don't know most women are not offended by men on a daily basis.

Apparently we need a man like you to tell us all what it's really about.

No; you need a man like me to tell you what it's really about

 

[Kfox]

True. So, I guess it's a good thing no one here is saying that either. We're saying women face bad/creepy behavior on a near daily basis. Assault and attacks are only part of that behavior.

So you changin' it now? Before it was rapey/creepy, now it's bad/creepy. I'll bet men experience bad and creepy behavior from women as well, and women experience bad/creepy behavior from other women as well.

 

[Magic Man]

So you changin' it now? Before it was rapey/creepy, now it's bad/creepy. I'll bet men experience bad and creepy behavior from women as well, and women experience bad/creepy behavior from other women as well.

Nope. You missed the whole point. You specified "assault" and "attack". I pointed out that there's more to it than just those things. It's bad/creepy/rapey.

I'll bet those last two things do happen. I also know they don't happen at anywhere near the same ballpark as women's experiences with men.

 

[Magic Man]

Your womansplaining is getting kinda old

Sorry, doesn't work.

You apparently don't know most women are not offended by men on a daily basis.

You apparently aren't listening. Shocking.

No; you need a man like me to tell you what it's really about

Well, that about says it all. At least you don't hide from saying this out loud.

 

[Kfox]

Nope. You missed the whole point. You specified "assault" and "attack". I pointed out that there's more to it than just those things. It's bad/creepy/rapey.

I'll bet those last two things do happen. I also know they don't happen at anywhere near the same ballpark as women's experiences with men.

Just because you say it doesn't make it true. You need to provide an outside source that says it happens to all women nearly everyday

 

[Kfox]

Sorry, doesn't work.

Then tell her to stop doing it!

You apparently aren't listening. Shocking.

You seem to have the same problem she has; assuming because I disagree, I'm not listening. I've got an exercise for ya; consider the possibility that I can actually listen to you, and yet still disagree.

 

[Magic Man]

Just because you say it doesn't make it true. You need to provide an outside source that says it happens to all women nearly everyday

Yet again, the answers to the bear question are the source. That's the entire point. Your desire for it not to be true and desperate attempts to change reality won't actually change anything.

 

[Magic Man]

Then tell her to stop doing it!

No, your weird attempt to make "womansplaining" a thing won't work.

You seem to have the same problem she has; assuming because I disagree, I'm not listening. I've got an exercise for ya; consider the possibility that I can actually listen to you, and yet still disagree.

No, I point out that you aren't listening because you're not listening. You're not disagreeing with me. You're desperately trying to argue something that has already been pointed out to be wrong, and you're ignoring the actual ways we've pointed that out. You keep asking for "outside sources", which ignores the entire point of the question. You keep reframing it as "assault/rape/attacks" in order to downplay the frequency. If you were engaging in good faith, you'd actually listen and stop making your inaccurate and strawman points.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Your womansplaining is getting kinda old

This is a woman's issue. This is about women's feelings and experiences.
So yeah, I'm gonna keep womansplaining my woman position until the end of time.

You apparently don't know most women are not offended by men on a daily basis.

You don't seem to know that they are.
We tried telling you with #MeToo.
We're trying to tell you AGAIN with the bear question.

You would know that if you listened, instead of dismissing.

No; you need a man like me to tell you what it's really about

You don't have any idea in the world what it's about. As you've thoroughly illustrated in this thread.
You are the problem.