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[Enoch07]

**I** do not-- but YOU DO: You support a man who only represents the top 1%

Irony. Again.

I don't support anyone. I am calling BS on a witch hunt though.

 

[Enoch07]

I get that. When confronted with questions that a zealot cannot answer, reversion to hysterics is a typical defense mechanism. Sure. Sure.

When you get control of yourself again, get back to me with the answers to my questions. Nah. That is not going to happen is it.

See post # 120

I think it's clear who the zealot is.

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

There are a number of posters on here that I have determined are not really very good at discussing and would rather deliver their opinions as special knowledge that they arrogantly see as unassailable and beyond question. I note them with the intention of generally leaving them to their own devices. I should know better than to doubt my own observations and conclusions, but sometimes I seem unable to help but respond to some whacky thing they have posted.

And then? There are thoughtful posters like you-- who remind me that most Christians are quite nice people.

Thanks for that. (as an aside, the christian that I am an ex of, was Methodist. Technically, I'm still a Methodist in good standing, never having told them otherwise. They don't judge-- at least, my last church does not. You're a Methodist until you tell them otherwise. I kinda like that, as my brother, whom I love, is Methodist, as is my sister-in-law, and their kids too. I expect I'll always have a soft spot for Methodists, out of Tradition. Which-- come to think of it-- is very Methodist of me. )

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Again you ignore my answers then accuse me of avoiding your questions.

In post #95 you asked.



And in post #99 I answered.


It's almost like you lie then expect us to not call it when the evidence is right before everyone's eyes.

I noted your link dump and that it did not meet the requirements of evidence supporting your claim. The only reasonable conclusion is that you do not have an answer and recognize that fact, which has precipitated all your efforts to twist this around and avoid providing answers. It is pretty clear that your arguments rely on personal feelings, logical fallacies and trickery over substance. At least in this instance. Well, I have noticed this on other occasions too, with other posters. Even some that I know to be conservative. What else is there to say?

I wonder about posters that make a lot of claims and speak as if they have special knowledge that they can use to ridicule others. Clearly, they are not here to persuade me that I am wrong or answer legitimate questions in any legitimate fashion. I keep falling back on the conclusion that you have some reason you are PO'd and looking for someone to beat up on.

You should follow my advice. Look for posters with a lot of yellow in their posts. Try the "green ink" test as well. You will find a lot of like-minded people that are just looking to smear others, because they have questions or they do not just jump on your every word as if it were gospel.

It is just like they told Dorothy, except it is not a road and it is not bricks, but it is still all yellow.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

See post # 120

I think it's clear who the zealot is.

It is, and it is also kind of you to embrace your mantle publicly. Much appreciated.

Still non-responsive on that question of mine. I understand.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

And then? There are thoughtful posters like you-- who remind me that most Christians are quite nice people.

Thanks for that. (as an aside, the christian that I am an ex of, was Methodist. Technically, I'm still a Methodist in good standing, never having told them otherwise. They don't judge-- at least, my last church does not. You're a Methodist until you tell them otherwise. I kinda like that, as my brother, whom I love, is Methodist, as is my sister-in-law, and their kids too. I expect I'll always have a soft spot for Methodists, out of Tradition. Which-- come to think of it-- is very Methodist of me. )

Thanks. I appreciate that.

The funny thing is that I am neither Republican nor Democrat, liberal or conservative. I have ideas that run to one side or the other depending as much as I can based on the facts, but I have to recognize my own personal bias and emotions are part of that as well. If you can provide an solid argument, I am willing to listen. Dumping posts and declaring the answer is in there without demonstrating that or twisting everything into a slam is not a solid argument.

I recall a few stories you mentioned on Topix about your family. Some of them had some very profound meaning to me. Just remember that soft spot when we are at odds on some issue and remember, that even if I disagree, I will do my best to post as solid an argument as I can. No "boo hoo hooing, or other nonsense in lieu of reasonable responses. I expect to learn something about your position regardless. It has become an expectation when I converse with you or read your posts.

I just have a sour taste when I am confronted with someone that relies on childish tactics and zealotry to support their cause. I should probably know better. A new friend I have on here is always reminding me of the futility of those encounters, but she is smarter than I am, and I have difficulty passing them up as I should.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

It's almost like you lie then expect us to not call it when the evidence is right before everyone's eyes.

I just realized what quote this line was in response to. You quoted yourself and then impugned your own quote. Now that's funny, that is. Be sure and give it a big old smiley face and throw a wrench at it.

 

[Enoch07]

I keep falling back on the conclusion that you have some reason you are PO'd and looking for someone to beat up on.

You'd be incorrect. I am of no emotion, other than when you say something silly and crack me up.

Cool calm objectivity, reason, and logic. Mixed in with a bit of sassy pants.

You should follow my advice. Look for posters with a lot of yellow in their posts.

Nah I'm good. You can attack me personally all you want. It will not serve you well.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

People such as you, represent some of the main reasons why young people are leaving Christianity in droves.

It's one of the main reasons why *I* am an Ex....

I find it interesting that you say this. I have noted from my own experience, that it is other Christians that have given me the only reasons for questions of faith. For some of them, all you have to do is disagree with their revealed truth and Jesus gets tossed out and the anger starts flying.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

You'd be incorrect. I am of no emotion, other than when you say something silly and crack me up.

Cool calm objectivity, reason, and logic. Mixed in with a bit of sassy pants.

Absolutely. It comes through your posts like a beacon in the night. Clearly obvious to everyone that your responses are logical and devoid of silly emotion. Clearly, your double talk hides myriad objective responses that mere mortals cannot see for their ineptitude of simply asking questions.

Nah I'm good. You can attack me personally all you want. It will not serve you well.

That is odd. I really haven't attacked you personally. If anything could be said, I have responded to attacks and noted the quality of your responses, the evasiveness, the twisting of your answers into personal attacks and all the usual trimmings, but noting that is a statement of facts.

It has not served you very well. Not well at all from the looks of things. You still have not answered my questions to the claims you raised, despite all of the diversionary tactics. You pretty much lost any chance of persuading me to your view, but I cannot see that as a reason for you posting here.

I will have to take your word for your disposition and wonder at how your posts seem to indicate otherwise. I forgive you any obligation to answer my questions. It is clear to me now that you will not. You have a great evening.

 

[Enoch07]

I just realized what quote this line was in response to. You quoted yourself and then impugned your own quote. Now that's funny, that is. Be sure and give it a big old smiley face and throw a wrench at it.

And the lies continue. You do realize this is seen by others correct? This is not private messaging.

 

[Enoch07]

Absolutely.

Awesome glad you come clean finally.

That is odd. I really haven't attacked you personally. If

Ok

 

[Dan From Smithville]

And the lies continue. You do realize this is seen by others correct? This is not private messaging.

What lie. You quoted yourself and then followed that quote with one mentioning lies in what you were responding to. Are you saying that it did not happen? You do know that quote is available for you--and others to review--right?

You just cannot stop with the passive aggressive insults. Wow! Just wow.

 

[Enoch07]

Wow!

ZzzzzzZZzzzzzzZzz

You say something?

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Awesome glad you come clean finally.





Ok

Quote mining. Wow! What other logical fallacies have you not yet tried on tonight? Give them a whirl. Do not hold back.

Once again, you do realize that the original messages are available for review right?

 

[Dan From Smithville]

ZzzzzzZZzzzzzzZzz

You say something?

This is too much and I did not get you anything. If I had known you were just going to lavish me with gifts, I would have gotten something sooner.

I mean, the complete rational logic you are showing here makes me wonder why I questioned your style at all. This is almost desert dry of emotion. Mr. Spock would have envy at such emotionless responses.

What am I supposed to get from this regarding the validity of your position? I suppose I can see why you worship Donald Trump. It makes much more sense now, given the evidence I have been presented with.

You really want the last word here. I get that sense. You seem to be clinging to it and I have only stayed on this long, just to see how far you would go. I bet you will go the distance. Attrition remember. I identified that as a significant factor in your responses and duration.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

ZzzzzzZZzzzzzzZzz

You say something?

I really have to go. You go ahead and get that last word in. Clearly, it is more important to you than it is to me, or maybe I am being manipulative so that I can get it. You decide. Use your cool, objective logic. It has served you so well.

Good night dude. It has been entertaining.

 

[Enoch07]

Good night dude.

Good night precious may false accusations of obstruction and conspiracy dance in your head!

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

<sees arguing>

Fine. I will do it. I will take the Ring to Mordor.

 

[sealchan]

Then list it.

I will defer to the more than 450 prosecutors who find sufficient evidence.

I also was able to find the evidence listed within 30 seconds of looking online for an article focused on that very question:
10 episodes where Trump might have obstructed justice