Sadly, I'm finding it all too common.
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January 6th, Just What Was It?
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Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
No one has claimed that it was an organized insurrection. And yes, there were a lot of useful idiots. Pretty much anyone that went to that rally would qualify as an idiot and anyone that marched on the capitol definitely did.
If some incompetent fool tried to kill you and only gave you a small bruise would you advocate letting him go? He might not be incompetent next time.
Guitar's Cry
Disciple of Pan
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Absolutely! Most of the BLM protests were peaceful, but you have to consider that the concept of police violence is grounded in data and observable information (which includes the decidedly violent response by cops).
Compare that with a crowd riled up by misinformation, unrealistic expectations, and led by a grifter. There was no evidence of election fraud widespread enough to change the election. The entire event was based on very purposeful misinformation from media and political figures seeking to overturn a democratic process.
Edited and cut to provide a false narrative, but your comments do raise questions. Do you think a guy dressed like a buffalo should be allowed to wonder aimlessly around the Capitol unescorted?
It was an insurrection. Not all that unplanned either. It cannot be helped that those engaged are not top shelf insurrectionists.
Ponder This
Well-Known Member
I don't think the police were arresting hardly anyone at all that day. The police don't have control over the situation. The focus is on de-escalation. They tell him he is trespassing and ask him to leave the building. They don't escalate; they don't start a potential conflictWouldn't you think that when he was alone among 8 officers they would go ahead and handcuff him? And not show him around? Or at the least say, "no further than here?" I did love it when, from the bullhorn, he thanked the police for letting them in.
And suppose that they did arrest him right then and there... (assuming that carrying out the arrest doesn't immediately escalate into a bad situation) What next? They have to hold him. They can't just walk away to go find other trespassers. He's not being physically violent at all. He's being friendly with the police. Chansley was arrested on January 9, 2021 (three days later) - well after the Jan 6 protest.
I think that the thing that surprises people is that Chansley was sentenced to jail for 41 months even though Chansley himself didn't do anything violent. He entered the capitol building, he shouted some obscenities, he sat in Mike Pence's chair, but he didn't try to harm anyone. A lot of people look at his behavior and draw the obvious conclusion: he was there to protest.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
That is not accurate. Chansley was a rioter. And almost certainly a violent one. By the way, though most of the BLM protests were peaceful, well over 90%, you did not hear about those because there is nothing more boring than a peaceful protest. Many of them did become riots. About 5% of them. And some of them were very violent riots. The riot on January 6 was unfortunately mostly idiots or spoiled brats that were angry because their candidate lost. By a lot. Chansley was one of the first 30 rioters to enter the building. One does not get into the forefront of an action like that without participating a bit. He made a plead deal and pled guilty. As a result he almost certainly got a lighter sentence than if he went to trial.
Posts misrepresent rioter’s actions in Jan. 6 Capitol attack
After Fox News host Tucker Carlson broadcast Jan. 6 security footage previously unseen by the public on his Monday night primetime show, social media users began sharing segments from his program that misrepresented Chansley’s involvement in the riot.
Colt
Well-Known Member
I agree, Trump and his more rabid followers are responsible for the Capital Hill riots. Leftist class warfare rhetoric is responsible for numerous riots, property destruction, looting and murder! Bernie Sanders rhetoric lead a man to try to kill (R)'s at a charity softball practice!
4 years of RESIST using the fake Russian collusion investigation lead Trump followers to deeply distrust once respected institutions of justice such as the FBI, CIA, DOJ and other (D) run Federal agencies.
RESIST was all about refusing the outcome of an election so spare us the feigned outrage!
We now see that the Jan 6 investigation was highly political and very slanted!------> However, Trump and the rioters are ultimately responsible!
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"Trying to overthrow our democratically elected government isn't a crime if there are cops who are in on it!"
Do you even hear yourself?
ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
It's amazing how unwilling you are to stick to talking about one specific thing. You're desperate to point fingers everywhere else and endlessly equivocate.
It's embarrassing.
Colt
Well-Known Member
That means there is truth in what I said and you just don't like it! The Left wants everyone to stick to their carefully crafted script of reality. You should apply your assumptions to yourself.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Nah, you where thoroughly refuted, son.That means there is truth in what I said and you just don't like it! The Left wants everyone to stick to their carefully crafted script of reality. You should apply your assumptions to yourself.
Colt
Well-Known Member
LoL! in the mind of the Left, when someone disagrees that means "thoroughly refuted".Nah, you where thoroughly refuted, son.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Nah, facts and logic speak for themselves, but keep doubling down. Denial will keep your comic book narrative alive.
Colt
Well-Known Member
Your source of facts and logic plead guilty to altering facts!
CNN —
An FBI lawyer who worked on the surveillance warrant of former Trump foreign policy adviser Carter Page plans to plead guilty Friday to making a false statement in an email as part of an investigation into the Russia investigation.
Kevin Clinesmith plans to admit to one charge of altering an email to another official in 2017 that said Page wasn’t a previous government source, when he had been one.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/14/politics/fbi-russia-clinesmith/index.html
Colt
Well-Known Member
First lady Jill Biden and Secretary of State Antony Blinken were slammed Wednesday for presenting a biological male from Argentina with an award for women on International Women's Day.
Twitter laughs, groans as Jill Biden gives biological male Women of Courage award: 'Up your game, ladies'
These are the people that claim to be the standard of what's true, rational and sane!
Twitter laughs, groans as Jill Biden gives biological male Women of Courage award: 'Up your game, ladies'
These are the people that claim to be the standard of what's true, rational and sane!
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
Why so desperate to divert from the thread topic?
Colt
Well-Known Member
The thread topic is about the Jan 6 riots, what really happened and the biased (D)'s who were picked by the wicked witch of the west coast to run the sham!
Being a woman, how do you feel about a man dressed up like a women getting an award for International Womans Day?
Jose Fly
Fisker of men
I'm sure you've noticed, but that's generally what happens in every thread that's about conservatives' shenanigans. Rather than address the actual subject, their preferred tactic is to divert and distract, and hope most folks fall for it. IOW, it's a coping mechanism.
Jose Fly
Fisker of men
Former Trump lawyer Jenna Ellis censured in Colorado over 2020 election
The Colorado Supreme Court’s Office of Attorney Regulation Counsel said Ellis violated a professional conduct rule when she made false statements about the 2020 election.
www.nbcnews.com
This is the problem with misinformation. It only takes a few minutes to make false claims and lie, but it often takes months or even years to hold the person accountable for it. And by then, the lies have already taken hold in the target audience.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Because he has nothing except for his own hatred and ignorance. As shown by his response to you.