But that contradict what you just said
If humans were allowed or free to not follow or obey God, then he shouldn't have flooded the world or thrown Adam and Eve out of the garden.
Assuming I were a moderator here on RF and I told you that you are free to post anything you like, regardless of what it is. And the moment you make a post, I ban you. Then I clearly weren't telling the truth, despite whether or not I excuse it with me doing it to protect you from getting rude comments from others.
If humans are free to do and follow God as they please, then God can under no circumstances punish those that choose not to do it, otherwise that is not what it means to be free. It is either as I just explained above or similar to a person holding a gun to your head telling you that you can do whatever you want, but if you don't do as they say they will shoot you.
So even if humans became wicked, that is what God agreed to might happen, according to what you say.
I don’t see God stepping in, do you?
Even during the Holocaust, or WWII, or anything.
But RE: the Flood...
slavery of the entire human race, was another thing....they wouldn’t have been free to rule themselves.
Those disobedient angels were put into a restrained condition, “thrown into Tartarus,” the Bible says. Unfortunately, the Bible provides no further info on what that entails.
According to Genesis 18, though, we know that angels could materialize bodies for themselves, even eating with Abraham.
But the “angels that sinned,” who are now demons, are denied that ability it seems. They mislead in other ways.
It’s interesting that, from what we read in Exodus 7, where Moses meets with Pharaoh, the demons were
right there, among the ruling class of Pharaoh, trying to overcome Moses’ divinely-given power, using Pharaoh’s magic-practicing priests.
And in the book of Daniel, we read where Gabriel tells Daniel that he had to fight with the “Prince of Persia,” fighting for over 20 days w/ this unnamed demon. So from what the Bible implies, they like the Halls of Power so to speak, where they can wield more influence.
And yes, I take all of this literal....there are simply too many accounts of people ‘speaking with their dead ancestors’ — something that is
impossible, since the Bible says “
the dead know nothing.” — Ecclesiastes 9:5
If that’s true, then who must be behind many of these documented “ghost” accounts we often read about, like
Lincoln's ghost - Wikipedia ?
There have been a million others, too many to be figments of the imagination! Many may be fraudulent, but not all.
