jesus and prophecies .. strange! .. but true

[Xchristian]

Interesting. Can you judge him? I think a dead man can not be judged.

I asked if we can judge jesus, he made predictions, they haven't come true.
Moses said, judge who does that, so shall we?

 

[savagewind]

I asked if we can judge jesus, he made predictions, they haven't come true.
Moses said, judge who does that, so shall we?

Moses' law was for living people. So, no, we shall not judge Jesus.

 

[Ken Brown]

why use Moses writings at all considering some of his prophecies have not come true?

It was Moses who wrote that by means of 'Abrahams seed, all the nations on earth would be blessed" Obvisouly that is not the case today....so why use Moses words as a reason to judge anybody????

Hi Pegg, and do not take this the wrong way. IF you do not believe what Moses wrote, you won't believe what Yeshua said, and this is Xchristian's weakness. KB

 

[Ken Brown]

I asked if we can judge jesus, he made predictions, they haven't come true.
Moses said, judge who does that, so shall we?

Hi Xchristian, you are in error. KB

 

[Pegg]

Hi Pegg, and do not take this the wrong way. IF you do not believe what Moses wrote, you won't believe what Yeshua said, and this is Xchristian's weakness. KB

Yes i know.

It seems strange to me that he would use the writings of Moses (a prophet with unfuliflled prophecies) to reject another prophet because he has unfulfilled prophecies

a bit ironic

 

[Xchristian]

Hi Pegg, and do not take this the wrong way. IF you do not believe what Moses wrote, you won't believe what Yeshua said, and this is Xchristian's weakness. KB

thank you

try to answer on her behalf please.

 

[Xchristian]

Yes i know.

It seems strange to me that he would use the writings of Moses (a prophet with unfuliflled prophecies) to reject another prophet because he has unfulfilled prophecies

a bit ironic

cheers dear

I can judge Moses now based on what you said, a false prophet.
(and jesus too)

 

[Xchristian]

Hi Xchristian, you are in error. KB

they have not come true .. present perfect tense

so you have an escape route saying; oh yes they will surely happen.

I can understand you, but my problem is; "how long can we wait before judging jesus?"

 

[Pegg]

cheers dear

I can judge Moses now based on what you said, a false prophet.
(and jesus too)

why base your view on what I said? wouldnt you be better off doing some research and coming to an informed opinion?

 

[Xchristian]

why base your view on what I said? wouldnt you be better off doing some research and coming to an informed opinion?

I already made up my mind, but I used your argument to fulfill my calculated decision.

 

[Pegg]

I already made up my mind, but I used your argument to fulfill my calculated decision.

ah, so it was not a 'conclusion' but rather a 'calculated decision'

disbelief is a choice God allows us to make.

 

[Xchristian]

Shall I ever see an answer (from someone who believes Moses or the OT at least)?

 

[Ken Brown]

Shall I ever see an answer (from someone who believes Moses or the OT at least)?

Hi Xchristian, one thing for certain, if you feel Yeshua has not been truthful in everything He stated, it is because you do not believe what Moses wrote. I believe what Moses wrote and what you find written in the OT. KB

 

[Pegg]

Shall I ever see an answer (from someone who believes Moses or the OT at least)?

i believe what Moses wrote

I also know that some prophecies relate to a specific time....a time we are yet to see. But that doesnt make me doubt that he is a true prophet for the reason that many of Moses prophecies have already come true. And this gives me confidence that they will all come true when they are supposed to.

 

[skinker]

hello all


I have been thinking in my xtian days of jesus as so many things at the same time, he's god incarnate, son of god, part of trinity, messenger of god, prophet, he's love, price of peace, king of kings .. etc ..

with time things fell down so rapidly.

jesus was never a king, he was a simple peasant jew who was executed according to the laws of his days ..

You're alright to think of his kingdom as a heavenly kingdom, but buy a 20 pounds ticket to France and you will see the sky, it's empty! perhaps for people who didn't have this chance, it was possible for them, but having seen the skies, there's no more to take in.
Now learn about what happens if you go up and up and that there's stratosphere and that he would freeze just going a few miles up, and you will be sure, this upheaval thing is an old man's trick, pretty much like what grandma said about grandad when he passed on, he went up there!

He is definitely not prince of peace, this man would put you in hell fire if you don't believe him, what's peaceful about that? what's peaceful about putting the majority of the creation in hell?

what' so good about having no chance and being born with a sin you never even heard of?

I thought, alright, he's a messenger.
Ok who's the sender? .. himself. What's the message? who knows..

That's fine, he's a prophet.
fine, what prophecy did he make and came true?
it's all in the future, nothing happened as of yet.

If anyone who knows of a 'prophecy' that came true, then by all means, let's see it!
(and I mean SEE it)

{the 'this generation' prophecy has not come true, and xtians have not even helped by giving illogical alternatives, you can skip that one}

The people who wrote the Gospels were under spiritual thrall, possessed by the Spirit of Christ which came from above into the Holy Land area between 100 BC and 100 AD and inspired almost a hundred new gospels, and religious texts about this spiritual guy, Jesus Christ. As a religious visionary myself I can look back at revelations I've received over two decades ago that only in the last couple of years made sense of them. I didn't understand them when they happened. And I think that happens way more than people realize about religious visions. We who get them are like packhorses carrying valuable spiritual knowledge but we're still just mules often without a clue what we're transporting across the generations.

"Look, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him; and all the peoples of the earth will mourn because of him. So shall it be!"

You ask for this Sign of the return of Jesus Christ and you, like most see nothing in the sky saying "Here I am, Jesus Christ". Well, I know where to look now. God told me where and I can show others now and will, the one's willing to look.

Amen.

 

[Xchristian]

Hi Xchristian, one thing for certain, if you feel Yeshua has not been truthful in everything He stated, it is because you do not believe what Moses wrote. I believe what Moses wrote and what you find written in the OT. KB

good good ... When are we going to give up waiting and obey Moses?

please be objective.

 

[Xchristian]

i believe what Moses wrote

.a time we are yet to see. .

how long for?

hey guys be realistic, it would be nice to face it!!

 

[Xchristian]

. Well, I know where to look now. God told me where and I can show others now and will, the one's willing to look.

Amen.

share it with us brov

not only where to look, I want when to look too, and when to give up.

Can anyone give us a rational answer?

 

[Ken Brown]

good good ... When are we going to give up waiting and obey Moses?

please be objective.

Hi Xchristian, I try to be objective. Tell me, what is the most egregious statement made by Yeshua. If you could pick the one statement that you would hang your hate on that would prove Yeshua is not the Messiah, which one would it be. KB

 

[Xchristian]

Hi Xchristian, I try to be objective. Tell me, what is the most egregious statement made by Yeshua. If you could pick the one statement that you would hang your hate on that would prove Yeshua is not the Messiah, which one would it be. KB

How long do we have to wait before judging jesus as Moses said please?