Jesus is a Fictional Character

[lukethethird]

So you’re wrong about John and Paul being Gnostics. What you just wrote contradicts what they wrote and testified concerning Jesus. The Gospels were all about God becoming man and living among us, He certainly did sully Himself even to the point of death on the Cross.

Almost all of the epistles predate the gospel writings. For Paul, Jesus Christ has yet to come to earth, he knows nothing of the gospel story, they weren't written until after he died. We must not put the cart before the horse.

 

[rational experiences]

If you ask men is your name as one presence a man?

They should all agree.

First does it matter what one man thinks then by leadership the talker gain agreement by other men?

Not really one thinking man gains leadership status then group following.

Was his man thesis Jesus?

Yes.

So a teacher about Jesus what would you name his teachings about?

A man's teaching of science status?

Jesus.

As a man woman live equally are named human together.

We don't really own names we use them for social conditions.

Rationally.

So if you ask has stigmata been proven by man or woman?

Yes. Oh the teaching said life was being sacrificed as science...Satanism phenomena was involved?

Yes said the teaching. It manifested in cloud heavens as cause effects.

UFO machine metals radiation mass cooled. Of earths mass machine destroying in temple sciences with pyramid.

Water holy life baptism above our head changed. Life's blood cells bones biological changed?

Yes. Men named it sun time caused nuclear.

Is going back looking back as life?

No life is present only.

Can life time shift?.....no.

Teenager toddler baby then sperm ovary our journey the reason why.

Had a theist shifted scientists DNA biology back in time by science of man?

Yes memory said he lived life like an ape man. Human memories only and is not a science thesis. Yet it is a scientists own man memories about what he once lived and looked like.

Did Jesus life attacked by man's one chosen God science real?

Yes we still live as saved life human was life sacrificed. Surviving.

Surviving is not any state. We are a human first. Nowhere else does a human being human exist as the human.

The bible about consciousness said when science caused anti..burning out Christ mass his brain state biology changed. It had been sacrificed yet he survived saved.

 

[ElishaElijah]

Almost all of the epistles predate the gospel writings. For Paul, Jesus Christ has yet to come to earth, he knows nothing of the gospel story, they weren't written until after he died. We must not put the cart before the horse.

Read Acts to see about Paul’s conversion

 

[blü 2]

So you’re wrong about John and Paul being Gnostics. What you just wrote contradicts what they wrote and testified concerning Jesus.

It would be nice if you'd occasionally read what the text of the NT actually says.

This is Paul on Jesus pre-existing in heaven and creating the material universe:

1 Corinthians 8:6 yet for us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things and for whom we exist, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things and through whom we exist.​

And this is the author of John on Jesus pre-existing in heaven and creating the material universe:

John 1:2 He was in the beginning with God; 3 all things were made through him, and without him was not anything made that was made.​

And that is what in gnosticism the demiurge does.

None of which is found in Mark, Matthew or Luke.

 

[lukethethird]

Read Acts to see about Paul’s conversion

Acts is second century church propaganda, read what Paul says about that, oh, he doesn't say anything about that, probably because he was dead for fifty years or more by the time that was written about him.

 

[rational experiences]

A basic intelligent non theist natural science first advice.

I don't own any other one body anywhere else.

One self only.
One human only.

Correct human not a group bully.

First advice.

Ownership advice....I only own myself

Bully advice...I pretend I own everything.

Bully says once I was an alien creator in a UFO sun machine.

Natural human says memory human says once the first only humans were humans.

Occult theist says the bible claimed you began as an alien.

The bible says you began not as your parents as the first two humans. As you are just a human baby rationally.

Human theists are liars destroyers of mass. Why mass was preached as holy.

 

[ElishaElijah]

Acts is second century church propaganda, read what Paul says about that, oh, he doesn't say anything about that, probably because he was dead for fifty years or more by the time that was written about him.

Lol

 

[RestlessSoul]

Why doesn’t everyone take advantage of that opportunity?

Matthew 22:14

 

[oldbadger]

That's the thing, everyone that doesn't agree with you is some kind of a myther.

Stop you right there!
Most people I debate with are believers in Christianity!
I don't have to debate with many mythers and they are easy meat by comparison.

 

[Audie]

Read Acts to see about Paul’s conversion

If Paul cant tell the truth about his
" snake bite" I see no reason to
believe his conversion story either.

 

[Audie]

Stop you right there!
Most people I debate with are believers in Christianity!
I don't have to debate with many mythers and they are easy meat by comparison.

Perhaps you should use a real word or
explain what you mean by " myther".

 

[ElishaElijah]

If Paul cant tell the truth about his
" snake bite" I see no reason to
believe his conversion story either.

Up to you

 

[Audie]

Up to you

And up to you.
Some of us though dont go for politicians,
" science", robo calls, or otherwise base any
faith on transparent falsehoods from any
source.
Why would you, if you dont mind the question?

 

[ElishaElijah]

And up to you.
Some of us though dont go for politicians,
" science", robo calls, or otherwise base any
faith on transparent falsehoods from any
source.
Why would you, if you dont mind the question?

I don’t, seems you do though, not sure what you’re point is with the snake bite.

 

[Audie]

I don’t, seems you do though, not sure what you’re point is with the snake bite.

Its real simple. I dont trust- put faith in- a
liar.
The snake story is an obvious lie.

So my q.- why do you have faith in a liar?

 

[ElishaElijah]

Its real simple. I dont trust- put faith in- a
liar.
The snake story is an obvious lie.

So my q.- why do you have faith in a liar?

How is the snake bite story a lie?

 

[Audie]

How is the snake bite story a lie?

Did you ever just read it and think about it?
Analyze it, like a person who really wanted to
know the truth?
I'd suggest you try that.* There's an epiphany
waiting for you.
I can walk you through it detail by detail
but dont feel like doing it unless you
actually want to know and have the capacity
to change your mind.
Which way is it?

*A start on the issues would be, no poisonous
snakes on that island

 

[Nakosis]

If you don't write a book about yourself, signed off on by a number of today's historians, then in 2000 years you will only be a myth regardless of the influence you have on anyone living today!

Sure, lack of knowledge allows folks to create whatever fictional narrative about me they feel would be correct.

 

[ElishaElijah]

Did you ever just read it and think about it?
Analyze it, like a person who really wanted to
know the truth?
I'd suggest you try that.* There's an epiphany
waiting for you.
I can walk you through it detail by detail
but dont feel like doing it unless you
actually want to know and have the capacity
to change your mind.
Which way is it?

*A start on the issues would be, no poisonous
snakes on that island

So your point is that you believe there were no poisonous snakes on the island?
“As Paul gathered a bundle of brushwood and put it on the fire, a viper came out because of the heat and fastened itself on his hand. When the local people saw the snake hanging from his hand, they said to one another, “This man, no doubt, is a murderer. Even though he has escaped the sea, Justice has not allowed him to live.” But he shook the snake off into the fire and suffered no harm. They expected that he would begin to swell up or suddenly drop dead. After they waited a long time and saw nothing unusual happen to him, they changed their minds and said he was a god.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭28:3-6‬ ‭CSB‬‬

 

[Audie]

So your point is that you believe there were no poisonous snakes on the island?
“As Paul gathered a bundle of brushwood and put it on the fire, a viper came out because of the heat and fastened itself on his hand. When the local people saw the snake hanging from his hand, they said to one another, “This man, no doubt, is a murderer. Even though he has escaped the sea, Justice has not allowed him to live.” But he shook the snake off into the fire and suffered no harm. They expected that he would begin to swell up or suddenly drop dead. After they waited a long time and saw nothing unusual happen to him, they changed their minds and said he was a god.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭28:3-6‬ ‭CSB‬‬

No. But you made a point by not checking to see for yourself if I am correct. Which I am.