Jesus is not God

[walt]

To have eternal life is to be saved from spiritual death, not to be saved from physical death.
Nobody is ever saved from physical death since the human body is mortal.

Your words are not from the Bible.

 

[walt]

That is a really ironic thing for you to say given an apostle of Jesus is only a human.
Not only that, the apostles of Jesus did not write the gospels.

So you want me to listen to your words, over what the apostle John had to say?

 

[walt]

Jesus never said that. Someone wrote that Jesus said that.
Jesus would know better than to say anything that false.

You are saying the Apostle John's words are false?

 

[Trailblazer]

Eternal life is what Adam and Eve and all their descendants would have had if they had not disobeyed God. They would have spread Eden to the rest of the planet and the history of humanity would have been very different. No one would have ever gotten sick or died of natural causes.

Eternal life has nothing to do with the life of the physical body.
Eternal life is nearness to God which comes from believing in Jesus.

If Adam and Eve had not disobeyed God they would have had spiritual life, but they would have died physically anyway.

To get that back we needed Jesus Christ, not BahaUllah. When Christ's Kingdom is established on the planet, those conditions will be restored.

When Baha'ullah's Kingdom is established on the planet, everything will be made new but nothing will be restored, because it was never God's intention for people to live in a Garden of Eden forever.

There is no Christian belief that is more absurd than this one. Thank God that most Christians know where they are going after they die, to heaven!

 

[Trailblazer]

There's someone out there in denial.

That is true, and we will know who that was after we die.

JWs are going to really surprised when they end up in heaven and realize that is their eternal home.
Till then, they can maintain their fantasies about living forever on earth.

 

[walt]

Eternal life has nothing to do with the life of the physical body.
Eternal life is nearness to God which comes from believing in Jesus.

If Adam and Eve had not disobeyed God they would have had spiritual life, but they would have died physically anyway.

When Baha'ullah's Kingdom is established on the planet, everything will be made new but nothing will be restored, because it was never God's intention for people to live in a Garden of Eden forever.

There is no Christian belief that is more absurd than this one. Thank God that most Christians know where they are going after they die, to heaven!

You cannot explain a belief with your own personal words, why do you keep doing that?

 

[Eli G]

Your words are not from the Bible.

And it seems that we are not even talking to a Bahai, but to someone who pretends to be a Bahai, but only consults some database on Bahaism to post a response and generate more traffic.

Do you find anything serious in his/her latest posts?

 

[Trailblazer]

you have yet to learn of the 144,000. they are the ones that receive a spirit body, they are the only ones that go to heaven . all others ,if found worthy, live here on earth.

I won't even bother to argue against that nonsense. JWs are the most deluded of the Christians when it comes to the afterlife.

 

[Trailblazer]

are you now judging Jesus ?

No, quite the contrary.

 

[Trailblazer]

I believe the evidence is much stronger, But this is something you will have to investigate on your own.

I believe the evidence for Baha'u'llah is much stronger, But this is something you will have to investigate on your own.

 

[Trailblazer]

I never heard any BahaUllah dialog with an angel.

I never heard any Jesus dialog with an angel.

 

[Trailblazer]

I thought Baha'u'llah was a human?

He was a human, just like Jesus was a human, but like Jesus, he had both a human nature and a divine nature.

 

[Trailblazer]

Your words are not from the Bible.

So what? the Bible is not MY holy book, it is YOUR holy book.

 

[Trailblazer]

So you want me to listen to your words, over what the apostle John had to say?

I do not want you to do anything.

 

[Trailblazer]

You are saying the Apostle John's words are false?

No, I am not saying that. I am saying those are not the words of Jesus.

 

[Trailblazer]

You cannot explain a belief with your own personal words, why do you keep doing that?

I just did explain my belief in my own personal words.

 

[Trailblazer]

And it seems that we are not even talking to a Bahai

I have been a card-carrying Baha'i for 54 years, and I thank God for that every single day.

 

[walt]

I believe the evidence for Baha'u'llah is much stronger, But this is something you will have to investigate on your own.

Give me all of your pieces of evidence please, why you believe your Holy Scriptures are Inspired?

Not the words of Baha'u'llah please.

• Do you have Scientific evidence?
• Do you have Solid Prophecies fulfilled in our day?
• Do you have Personal experience's of your Holy Scriptures providing you with large amounts of Hope, Joy, Happiness and Strength?
• Do you have Words in your Holy Scriptures that have benefited your life In such a positive way, for relationships and family life?
• Do you have hundreds of scriptures fulfilled in the words of Baha'u'llah?

 

[cataway]

I have been a card-carrying Baha'i for 54 years, and I thank God for that every single day.

Revelation 18:4​

And I heard another voice out of heaven say: “Get out of her, my people, if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of her plagues.

 

[walt]

I have been a card-carrying Baha'i for 54 years, and I thank God for that every single day.

I think it is very Loving and Commendable that you have devoted 54 years to something you truly believe is true!