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IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
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Elizabeth was a Jew! Her husband Zechariah was a High Priest! They believed Jesus was God! ALL
IndigoChild5559
all Jews believe in ONE God! Never would Elizabeth believe anything differently she was a Jew!
Luke 1:41 When Elizabeth heard Mary’s greeting, the baby leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit. 42 In a loud voice she exclaimed: “Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the child you will bear! 43 But why am I so favored, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?

Question who is Elizabeth' Lord!?

Matthew 1:23 The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel” (which means “God with us”).

Isaiah 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel.
I dont' think that Elizabeth or Zechariah thought Jesus created the world, sorry.
 

Dogknox20

Well-Known Member
I dont' think that Elizabeth or Zechariah thought Jesus created the world, sorry.
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IndigoChild5559 I hope all is well... What do you know about what they Elizabeth or Zechariah thought! Elizabeth was Jew she addressed Mary as "the mother of God"! WHO..

IndigoChild5559
who said all understanding fills each persons head the instant they say they believe... Just like all Jews; we grow into our understanding, we are taught about truth and God as we grow! Elizabeth was a JEW I am sure she did not understand everything instantly the Holy Spirit filled her...
35 The angel answered, “The Holy Spirit will come on you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God.

IndigoChild5559 Mary was overshadowed by God she brought the Holy Spirit to Elizabeth,,
41 When Elizabeth heard Mary’s greeting, the baby leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit.

God became part of his own creation so he could save man from death and bring life eternal! Jesus rose from the dead never to die again, no one can die twice.. I am IMMERSED into living forever body of Jesus so I also will live forever! Jesus is God!
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind.

John 1:14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us.

John 1:18 No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
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IndigoChild5559 I hope all is well... What do you know about what they Elizabeth or Zechariah thought!
I know that they were second temple era Jews. That's all I need to know to comprehend that the idea that God is a man would have been repulsive to them.
 

MyM

Well-Known Member
I think to believe in a God that dies is really not thinking things thoroughly. God is the creator of the universe and he CREATED Jesus. Why believe in Jesus when God is the ultimate superior being. Even Jesus said he himself could do nothing. He also said he was ONLY sent to the lost sheep of the house of Israel...not to mankind like the preachers preach. Jesus was a mighty messenger of God and to humiliate your Creator to me is not very acknowledging. Jesus is a prophet of God.
 

MyM

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I don't understand why man thinks they are so worthy of having someone die for them. YOu say Jesus needed to die for you to understand you, to forgive you etc....why do people think they are so privileged to have that done...all that means is that one can sin and sin and sin all they want....really arrogance.
 

MyM

Well-Known Member
I know that they were second temple era Jews. That's all I need to know to comprehend that the idea that God is a man would have been repulsive to them.

Salam :) I believe in the one true God as well :) To say that God is a man is indeed ignorant of their Creator :)
 

MonkeyFire

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Faithful unite, believers unite, may the wish come from the stars, but to me in my times of need. Hope must follow her laws, just be unstoppable darling. Fore, I am FIRE I walk in the midst of the SUN. As long as the sun shines, it shall never set, and as it is, it has always been. The event of the singularity sinks into the sands of time, and in the circle of life heals all wounds. Why must something that has never happened before, happen ever again. What was, shall be. When the rebel dies, eternal war returns, and omniscience will unveil the honest truth of salvation, and no angel in Heaven shall be complacent, and god, angel, or buddha we must have faith, we must get what we wish for, we must have hope. Sexuality must be supreme, or we all run dry. I, Believe a buddha, and an archangel, and a deva, what ever I can do spiritually. Religion is meant to be one man and many women. The universe should be filled with women. Defeat the dragon Raphael, or make him the perfect anti-hero and go back to back YHWH, and HADES. What do you make believe?
 

MyM

Well-Known Member
Faithful unite, believers unite, may the wish come from the stars, but to me in my times of need. Hope must follow her laws, just be unstoppable darling. Fore, I am FIRE I walk in the midst of the SUN. As long as the sun shines, it shall never set, and as it is, it has always been. The event of the singularity sinks into the sands of time, and in the circle of life heals all wounds. Why must something that has never happened before, happen ever again. What was, shall be. When the rebel dies, eternal war returns, and omniscience will unveil the honest truth of salvation, and no angel in Heaven shall be complacent, and god, angel, or buddha we must have faith, we must get what we wish for, we must have hope. Sexuality must be supreme, or we all run dry. I, Believe a buddha, and an archangel, and a deva, what ever I can do spiritually. Religion is meant to be one man and many women. The universe should be filled with women. Defeat the dragon Raphael, or make him the perfect anti-hero and go back to back YHWH, and HADES. What do you make believe?


I don't make up religions and accuse God of not knowing about His creations.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
If so, why's he never returned my calls?
It's so hard so see God sometimes. I don't know your specific circumstances, but I can relate to what you say here. I felt God didn't return my calls for much of my life.

But on an optimistic note, this brings to mind the lyrics of the song I'm listening to:

Sometimes it hurts and we don't understand it, but I think there's a voice somewhere in most of us calling us to something higher and that cares. That's my perspective, at least.
 

Viker

Your beloved eccentric Auntie Cristal
If you are not serious about the One who created you, why would He?
As a child, I was profoundly serious. I needed help. I only got it from a few humans and standing up for myself.
 

MyM

Well-Known Member
As a child, I was profoundly serious. I needed help. I only got it from a few humans and standing up for myself.


You are an adult now so you have that capability of thinking. Why go to the dark side of things when there is better out there?
 

MonkeyFire

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I don't make up religions and accuse God of not knowing about His creations.

And still non-believers only suffer, and tell the truth when they hurt, but lie about everything else. I swear to it, I tried by best, but you are the lost one. You lost your place in Heaven? I think not, but if so, you were in Heaven for a moment, and the moment is gone. I fell to earth and no further in a great leap of faith, along side me love, and the nimble one. Then we are supped up to Heaven, and the faithful war alongside gnostics; against a false light called, satan and the devil, and Lucifer.
 

MyM

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And still non-believers only suffer, and tell the truth when they hurt, but lie about everything else. I swear to it, I tried by best, but you are the lost one. You lost your place in Heaven? I think not, but if so, you were in Heaven for a moment, and the moment is gone. I fell to earth and no further in a great leap of faith, along side me love, and the nimble one. Then we are supped up to Heaven, and the faithful war alongside gnostics; against a false light called, satan and the devil, and Lucifer.


Where does it say that only non believers will only enter Hellfire? Muslims as well as non believers will be in hellfire. Those who are NOT adhering to the laws and commandments, those who have not made towbah(repentance from major sins), they will be judged by Allah and hellfire will be there for those Allah judges fit.

Whatever you said in your paragraph, made no sense.

And Allah knows best
 

MonkeyFire

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Where does it say that only non believers will only enter Hellfire? Muslims as well as non believers will be in hellfire. Those who are NOT adhering to the laws and commandments, those who have not made towbah(repentance from major sins), they will be judged by Allah and hellfire will be there for those Allah judges fit.

Whatever you said in your paragraph, made no sense.

And Allah knows best

Be gone serpent. Peace be upon us all.
 

Sand Dancer

Currently catless
Matthew 1:23The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel” (which means “God with us”).
+ This is prophesy...
Isaiah 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel.
IndigoChild5559 "God with us"!.

The original word for that specific word virgin was young woman, and it was about Ahaz's son, Hezekiah, not Jesus.
 
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