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Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
That guy in Mexico again?
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Jesus loves you.
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Suave
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In church, I like hearing Jesus Loves You, but I might perhaps dread those words if they were spoken to me in a Mexican prison.
Sgt. Pepper
All you need is love.
What kind of love does Jesus have for the child who is badly beaten by her mother, and he does absolutely nothing to protect this child from the abuse, despite the child's frantic prayers asking God to save her from her mother? If Jesus loves this child, then why did he allow her to be severely abused throughout her childhood and adolescence? Why did he allow her to suffer such immense abuse? Was this little girl not worthy of his love and protection? What about all the other children who also suffer abuse?
I'm curious to know what kind of love did Jesus have for the six million Jews who were gassed to death by the Nazis. Surely Jesus knew that God's own chosen people were being ruthlessly slaughtered by the Nazis. Why didn't Jesus stop the Holocaust?
As you might suspect, I reject the notion that Jesus loves me or God loves me. It took me 31 years to free myself from Christianity, and I finally let go of the false hope that there's a loving merciful God, who loves me. I won't ever be ensnared by Christianity again.
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Viker
Your beloved eccentric Auntie Cristal
The "dark side" of things proved themselves best for me. I needed self esteem. I needed to know that I was not wrong for what I couldn't help being. I could not find this help in Abrahamic faiths. I didn't need a god's love I needed to be able to self-love and not told that I had to change everything I am. I was a child once. That child didn't need to "change/be born again" (deny/reject) herself, she needed for herself to grow as she was.
Dogknox20
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Matthew 1:23 “The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel” (which means “God with us”).
Isaiah 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel.
Thirza Fallen The only virgin I know of is Mary!
22 All this took place to fulfill what the Lord had said through the prophet: 23 “The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel” (which means “God with us”).
Dogknox20
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Sgt. Pepper Jesus loves the the child who is badly beaten by her mother!
How do I know?
Jesus died for all of us; out of Perfect LOVE he gave himself to us! Jesus did not have to die he went to the cross willingly so we US you and me could have eternal life in heaven!
Jesus destroyed death on the cross, he restored life.. Satan hates us, he hates all men! Satan hates the cross it was the cross and Jesus that defeated Satan!
Satan would never allow any of his followers to use the cross, he would never have a cross on any of his Churches!
Sgt. Pepper Satan is the "Anti-Christ" he is "Anti-Christian"! Christians did not badly bead any child! Direct your anger in the right direction!
Sgt. Pepper
All you need is love.
You're preaching to the choir, Dogknox20, because you're not spouting off any Christianese that I haven't heard before, and I'm not buying what you're trying to sell. I know you believe what you're saying, and that's fine because I used to believe it, too, but I don't believe anymore. That being said, there's no point in trying to convince me otherwise. I think blaming the devil for God's screw-ups is a cop-out that Christians will fall back on when a discussion about God's violent nature starts to get uncomfortable for them.
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MyM
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very mature
If you really want to be amazed...go to the link ....it's really amazing that when "they" choose what they want to be added or deleted to the Bible. Shame on them for messing around....in the Quran Allah says,
"Then woe to those who write the Book with their own hands and then say, "This is from Allah," to purchase with it a small price! Woe them what their hands have written and woe to them for what they earn with it."
2:79
MyM
Well-Known Member
Why blame God? Muslims do not believe Jesus is God nor do the Jews.
Sgt. Pepper
All you need is love.
Why blame God? I blame God because I hold him responsibility for his own actions and his callousness. I don't blame the devil or blame mankind or blame sin for the fallen condition of the world. I blame God, because the buck stops with him. He admitted that he created evil (Isaiah 45:7), and no amount of excuses will ever negate that fact. Why would a 'loving merciful God' create evil that would thoroughly infect and condemn his perfect creation? For the record, I'm not a Muslim. So, why should I care if Muslims and Jews don't believe Jesus is God? As far as I'm concerned, these people can believe whatever they want, and it's no concern of mine.
Dogknox20
Well-Known Member
Sgt. Pepper There is Evil in the world and there is Good!
It takes a real twist of logic to say "God is evil and Satan is good"!
Sgt. Pepper
All you need is love.
There is evil in the world because God created evil, and then he allowed evil to spread and fester. Would you mind quoting the post where I specifically said that Satan is good? I said that I don't blame the devil for God's screw-ups, but I don't recall ever saying that Satan is good. Lucifer is a fallen angel because he tried to overthrow God. And while we're on this subject, I kind of feel sorry for the poor devil because he never stood a chance against God's infinite power, and God knew it. It wasn't exactly a fair fight, was it?
Dogknox20
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Sgt. Pepper God created all things Good because God is perfect! Adam the first perfect man brought sin into God' perfect creation!
God gave Adam "Free Choice" he had to give him free Choice because you need free choice to LOVE! Adam decided to sin he FREELY decided, no one forced Adam to chose evil!
We are born Adams children until we are "Re-Formed" by the waters of Baptism we are his children, all born corrupted! After Baptism we are then Disciples!
Jesus is Brother to the Disciple, if Jesus is your brother then God is then your Adopted Father!
Sand Dancer
Currently catless
Yahweh killed or ordered the killing of thousands in the Bible alone. And Satan killed maybe 10?
Sgt. Pepper
All you need is love.
That's not to mention God killing off the world's population with the global flood, with the exception of Noah and his family. He got ticked off and threw a colossal cosmic temper tantrum, because humanity had turned out exactly the way he knew they would even before he created Adam and Eve. Of course, that depends on whether God is all-knowing and all-powerful as the bible claims he is.
Bree
Active Member
and I love Jesus for all that he did for us and for the person he is.
I love that he showed us how God feels and thinks about us. He showed us that God is kind and humble. He showed us that there is nothing God would not give to help us live. I love the he showed affection for women in a society that looked down at women. He held the hand of a leper when it was against the law to do so. He spoke out against the hypocrits who gave lip service to the law of God and he went so far as to lay down his life and openly expressed his forgiveness for the cruet nature of his abusers.
He was a true hero for mankind and I love him for that. He is not dead, he was made alive in sprit and i love that it is he who has been given authority to rule over all mankind from the right seat of God. I wouldnt want anyone else in that position.
Bree
Active Member
Satan killed all of mankind. You are dying right now because of his actions.
Sand Dancer
Currently catless
Where is that in the Bible? We are dying because that is the natural end span of life.
Krishna loves you more.