Jesus loves you.

[Sand Dancer]

Krishna loves you more.

He's so good at it.

 

[Dogknox20]

Yahweh killed or ordered the killing of thousands in the Bible alone. And Satan killed maybe 10?

Thirza Fallen Man was killing Children, Child Sacrifice!
Sodom was destroyed because there was NOT one righteous person!
1 John 3:7
Dear children, do not let anyone lead you astray. The one who does what is right is righteous, just as he is righteous.

You MUST "Do Right" to be righteous!

 

[Ashoka]

Krishna loves you more.

Hare Krishna!

 

[Sand Dancer]

Thirza Fallen Man was killing Children, Child Sacrifice!
Sodom was destroyed because there was NOT one righteous person!
1 John 3:7
Dear children, do not let anyone lead you astray. The one who does what is right is righteous, just as he is righteous.

You MUST "Do Right" to be righteous!

Okay, but Yahweh did as well, way more than any humans.

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

Hare Krishna!

 

[Dogknox20]

Okay, but Yahweh did as well, way more than any humans.

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Hello Thirza Fallen there is evil in the world... Goes by the name Satan!

God is LOVE! You have made accusations trying to paint God as Evil!; Makes me wonder; Who is influencing you!
Romans 12:2
Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God’s will is—his good, pleasing and perfect will.

1 Thessalonians 5:20
Do not treat prophecies with contempt 21 but test them all; hold on to what is good, 22 reject every kind of evil.

On Denying the Incarnation
1 John 4:1
Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

 

[Dogknox20]

Hare Krishna!

Hare Krishna Hindu wan a bees!

 

[Sand Dancer]

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Hello Thirza Fallen there is evil in the world... Goes by the name Satan!

God is LOVE! You have made accusations trying to paint God as Evil!; Makes me wonder; Who is influencing you!
Romans 12:2
Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God’s will is—his good, pleasing and perfect will.

1 Thessalonians 5:20
Do not treat prophecies with contempt 21 but test them all; hold on to what is good, 22 reject every kind of evil.

On Denying the Incarnation
1 John 4:1
Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

Uh huh...

 

[Ashoka]

Hare Krishna Hindu wan a bees!

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[Bree]

Where is that in the Bible? We are dying because that is the natural end span of life.

It is seen right from the beginning of the bible in the book of Genesis where the condition of life was dependent on obedience to Gods law.

Gen 3:2 At this the woman said to the serpent: “We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden.+ 3 But God has said about the fruit of the tree that is in the middle of the garden:+ ‘You must not eat from it, no, you must not touch it; otherwise you will die.’

If you think about it logically, then if they never ate from the tree they would should not have died.
It is also shown throughout the bible that everlasting life is promised as a reward to those who obey God

Psalms 37:29 The righteous will possess the earth,+And they will live forever on it.+

Matthew 25:46 These will depart into everlasting cutting-off,+ but the righteous ones into everlasting life.”+

Revelation 21:3-4 With that I heard a loud voice from the throne say: “Look! The tent of God is with mankind, and he will reside with them, and they will be his people. And God himself will be with them.+ 4 And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes,+ and death will be no more,+ neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore.+ The former things have passed away.”

Psalms 37:27 Turn away from bad and do what is good,+ And you will remain forever.


Death is the result of disobedience to God. It was never part of Gods purpose for mankind to slowly die. He created us in his image, therefore we have the potential to be part of his family as the angles of heaven are.

 

[Sand Dancer]

It is seen right from the beginning of the bible in the book of Genesis where the condition of life was dependent on obedience to Gods law.

Gen 3:2 At this the woman said to the serpent: “We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden.+ 3 But God has said about the fruit of the tree that is in the middle of the garden:+ ‘You must not eat from it, no, you must not touch it; otherwise you will die.’

If you think about it logically, then if they never ate from the tree they would should not have died.
It is also shown throughout the bible that everlasting life is promised as a reward to those who obey God

Psalms 37:29 The righteous will possess the earth,+And they will live forever on it.+

Matthew 25:46 These will depart into everlasting cutting-off,+ but the righteous ones into everlasting life.”+

Revelation 21:3-4 With that I heard a loud voice from the throne say: “Look! The tent of God is with mankind, and he will reside with them, and they will be his people. And God himself will be with them.+ 4 And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes,+ and death will be no more,+ neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore.+ The former things have passed away.”

Psalms 37:27 Turn away from bad and do what is good,+ And you will remain forever.


Death is the result of disobedience to God. It was never part of Gods purpose for mankind to slowly die. He created us in his image, therefore we have the potential to be part of his family as the angles of heaven are.

That's spiritual death, not physical death.

 

[Bree]

That's spiritual death, not physical death.

and why do you conclude that its 'spriitual' death and not physical?

 

[Sand Dancer]

and why do you conclude that its 'spriitual' death and not physical?

Because they didn't die. Folks supposedly lived hundreds of years until the flood. Or were we really supposed to live forever?

 

[Bree]

Because they didn't die. Folks supposedly lived hundreds of years until the flood. Or were we really supposed to live forever?

Ill take you on a different tangent here... consider the account about God giving Adam and Eve instructions on what they were to eat.
Gen 1:29 Then God said: “Here I have given to you every seed-bearing plant that is on the entire earth and every tree with seed-bearing fruit. Let them serve as food for you.+ 30 And to every wild animal of the earth and to every flying creature of the heavens and to everything moving on the earth in which there is life,* I have given all green vegetation for food.”+ And it was so.

so here is a question.... if God gave them these instructions, does it seem reasonable to conclude that God wanted his creations to eat only vegetation ? Could you conclude that from the text?

 

[rational experiences]

If you pretend you're just a human first then maybe you will stop asking inane questions.

If a human born a baby asks am I loved should they have to?

If a human man gets life attacked hurt still loves then isn't the question why then don't you brother love also? What is your excuse healthy man not loving?

 

[Sand Dancer]

Ill take you on a different tangent here... consider the account about God giving Adam and Eve instructions on what they were to eat.
Gen 1:29 Then God said: “Here I have given to you every seed-bearing plant that is on the entire earth and every tree with seed-bearing fruit. Let them serve as food for you.+ 30 And to every wild animal of the earth and to every flying creature of the heavens and to everything moving on the earth in which there is life,* I have given all green vegetation for food.”+ And it was so.

so here is a question.... if God gave them these instructions, does it seem reasonable to conclude that God wanted his creations to eat only vegetation ? Could you conclude that from the text?

I agree with that part, but Gen. 9:3 changes that up. I like the vegetarian part better.

 

[Bree]

I agree with that part, but Gen. 9:3 changes that up. I like the vegetarian part better.

yes true, the permission to eat meat came after Noah came out of the flood.

So you agree we can conclude that God wanted humans (and animals) to all be vegetarian based on that verse. Now think about the instructions about obedience to the law and the consequences for disobedience....What did Adam and Eve understand about that? Eve knew what disobedience would mean when she repeated Gods warning:

Gen 2:3 But God has said about the fruit of the tree that is in the middle of the garden:+ ‘You must not eat from it, no, you must not touch it; otherwise you will die.’”

So all they knew was that if they disobeyed Gods command, they would die. There was no mention of death for any other reason therefore is it not reasonable to conclude that if they obeyed, they would continue to live?

 

[Sand Dancer]

yes true, the permission to eat meat came after Noah came out of the flood.

So you agree we can conclude that God wanted humans (and animals) to all be vegetarian based on that verse. Now think about the instructions about obedience to the law and the consequences for disobedience....What did Adam and Eve understand about that? Eve knew what disobedience would mean when she repeated Gods warning:

Gen 2:3 But God has said about the fruit of the tree that is in the middle of the garden:+ ‘You must not eat from it, no, you must not touch it; otherwise you will die.’”

So all they knew was that if they disobeyed Gods command, they would die. There was no mention of death for any other reason therefore is it not reasonable to conclude that if they obeyed, they would continue to live?

Perhaps he meant that they could live in Eden. After they ate, they got to live, just not in Eden anymore. It seems like an allegory for being out on our own without protection when we want to do risky things instead of making the best choices.

 

[Bree]

Perhaps he meant that they could live in Eden. After they ate, they got to live, just not in Eden anymore. It seems like an allegory for being out on our own without protection when we want to do risky things instead of making the best choices.

do you think its possible that if they had of stayed in Eden, they would not have died outside?

 

[Sand Dancer]

Then they would have never gotten the opportunity to learn and grow. We have to take risks sometimes to get where we need to be.