Jesus: The Missing Years in the East

[oldbadger]

"Bart D. Ehrman, a Bible scholar and historian famous for his best sellers, says that "Today there is not a single recognized scholar on the planet who has any doubts about the matter. The entire story was invented by Notovitch, who earned a good deal of money and a substantial amount of notoriety for his hoax."[7]"
Nicolas Notovitch - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A disciple of Bart Ehrman, here on RF...... now there is diversity for you.

I see from the above that Bart made loads of money from his best-selling books? And he may just be very p-ssed off with the fact that Notovitch made more, and gained even more notoriety than Bart himself.
Hell hath no fury like a historian scorned, with the readership and money flowing in to another's coffers.. :yes:

I just read up some blurb about Bart on the old www.:
...................Ehrman also makes sense of the cleansing of the Temple in the context of the eschatological expectations of the historical Jesus........

Now, how many 'Model Boats' mags could I buy for the price of just one of Bart's?

 

[godnotgod]

Can you give me your source please?

Here is the short answer:

"Life of St Issa" Scroll (Unknown)

 

[godnotgod]

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Jesus in India

 

[roger1440]

Ahhh! But some ancient historians tell us the Hebrew originally came from India. The plot thickens...


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The "Hebrew" what?

 

[roger1440]

Heh...heh...heh...or maybe...just maybe....the Church was so thorough in burning and suppressing any view other than its own that nothing was left to tell the real story of his travels Eastward.

Then again, maybe you're right. Jesus, the Savior of Mankind, spends 18 years sanding, gluing, mortising, tenoning, over and over and over and over and over again. Ooooh! How exciting!

I really don't think some one was following him around his entire life taking notes on every move he made.

 

[Shermana]

the Church was so thorough in burning and suppressing any view other than its own that nothing was left to tell the real story of his travels Eastward.

Or his travels in the Yellow Time Traveling Submarine with the Beatles.

Is it any coincidence his views are so John Lennon-ish?

 

[nash8]

If unicorns don't exist, then where do unicorn horns come from, hmm?

Narwahal horns that washed up on shore.

But I honestly find it odd, that no horse throughout history ever developed a horn? I mean we have all kinds of animals with horns that are used in a variety of different ways, albiet most have two. But it would seem that a single horn placed in the middle of a horse's head, would have been a great evolutionary advantage, atleast from a personal defense aspect.

No, the entire story was NOT invented by Notovich. We have several others who have verified the existence of the scrolls.

Here is the short answer:

"Life of St Issa" Scroll (Unknown)

Post the picture of the monk showing the scroll to that chick, as well as the story behind her travels. That's the most convincing evidence for Jesus in the East from my perspective, and it seems like it is the least promoted.

 

[roger1440]

A disciple of Bart Ehrman, here on RF...... now there is diversity for you.

I see from the above that Bart made loads of money from his best-selling books? And he may just be very p-ssed off with the fact that Notovitch made more, and gained even more notoriety than Bart himself.
Hell hath no fury like a historian scorned, with the readership and money flowing in to another's coffers.. :yes:

I just read up some blurb about Bart on the old www.:
...................Ehrman also makes sense of the cleansing of the Temple in the context of the eschatological expectations of the historical Jesus........

Now, how many 'Model Boats' mags could I buy for the price of just one of Bart's?

I read from many different sources. Today on his facebook page he had posted:

Bart D. Ehrman “My view is that we don't *assume* anything. But there can scarcely be any doubt that some of the Pauline letters were written by Paul....”

I then replied with:
Roger1440 “The best scholars can do is presume “some of the Pauline letters were written” by the same person. Who knows, maybe they were written by Melvin Schwartz from Hoboken N.J.”

 

[LegionOnomaMoi]

Narwahal horns that washed up on shore.

If that were the case, then Ollivander from Harry Potter would never be able to sell wands with a Unicorn hair core. Do you research, man. Seriously.

 

[Shermana]

Or maybe a walking talking Nazarene Essene Jewish mystic, which is the main reason he had insight into the meaning of the Torah, and who lived only 10 miles from Nazareth at the Nazorean Essene monastery at Mt. Carmel, 'Nazorean' equating with 'Nazarene'.

However, being a mystic, and having come into contact with the mystical teachings coming into the West from the East, he would naturally want to enrich his spiritual life by traveling toward the source of those enlightened teachings, something lacking in the lands in which he lived, as the Judaic teachings are mainly patriarchal, having mostly to do with the Law of God and obedience to that Law. It is the Eastern feminine-based teachings which provide spiritual nourishment about the essence of God, and the attainment of divine union with God, rather than mere empty obedience to Law. So while Jesus let everyone know that he was thoroughly familiar with his Father's Law, he taught Love, Forgiveness, and Compassion for men when they did disobey that same Law.

Yes, he taught forgiveness and compassion to the "Brood of Vipers" Pharisees who he condemned as hypocrites for not obeying that law as well. And in Revelation, he was definitely saying how much he was going to forgive and be kind to those who persecuted the saints, by sending magical insects that would bite them and cause feelings of love.

All this love and peace and forgiveness could ONLY be achieved by "enriching" his "Spiritual life" in "Feminine-based teachings" (Whatever those may be, as Hinduism and Buddhism aren't exactly pro-Feminist), none of his teachings at all match up with anything in the Talmud or Midrash at all of course.

 

[Shermana]

I have found conclusive proof of the unicorn. This is definitely not a doctored photo, I'll bet 1000:1 on that.

Behold. The unicorn.

Though to be honest, I'm much more impressed by his beard.

 

[LegionOnomaMoi]

I have found conclusive proof of the unicorn. This is definitely not a doctored photo, I'll bet 1000:1 on that.

Behold. The unicorn.

Though to be honest, I'm much more impressed by his beard.

It's...It's...[sniffs with tears running down eyes]...it's as beautiful as I always imagined!

 

[roger1440]

Or maybe a walking talking Nazarene Essene Jewish mystic, which is the main reason he had insight into the meaning of the Torah, and who lived only 10 miles from Nazareth at the Nazorean Essene monastery at Mt. Carmel, 'Nazorean' equating with 'Nazarene'.

However, being a mystic, and having come into contact with the mystical teachings coming into the West from the East, he would naturally want to enrich his spiritual life by traveling toward the source of those enlightened teachings, something lacking in the lands in which he lived, as the Judaic teachings are mainly patriarchal, having mostly to do with the Law of God and obedience to that Law. It is the Eastern feminine-based teachings which provide spiritual nourishment about the essence of God, and the attainment of divine union with God, rather than mere empty obedience to Law. So while Jesus let everyone know that he was thoroughly familiar with his Father's Law, he taught Love, Forgiveness, and Compassion for men when they did disobey that same Law.

The secret lies in Jesus’s age and kinship to John the Baptist. Shhhh

 

[godnotgod]

I really don't think some one was following him around his entire life taking notes on every move he made.

Especially when the shepherds attendant at his birth in Bethlehem were instructed to spread the news of the birth of a Messiah they were witnessing. Nope. Who would care what a Messiah was doing for 18 years in a small, insignificant little town?

EVERYONE!

 

[godnotgod]

The secret lies in Jesus’s age and kinship to John the Baptist. Shhhh

So they were acting funny with each other in the desert. Yup. We've got the video.

 

[godnotgod]

 

[oldbadger]

I read from many different sources. Today on his facebook page he had posted:

Bart D. Ehrman “My view is that we don't *assume* anything. But there can scarcely be any doubt that some of the Pauline letters were written by Paul....”

I then replied with:
Roger1440 “The best scholars can do is presume “some of the Pauline letters were written” by the same person. Who knows, maybe they were written by Melvin Schwartz from Hoboken N.J.”

Hi.......
So you don't particularly admire Bart, or follow his every spiritual inclination? Could I go further in proposing that you don't totally agree with his findings and opinions about historical Jesus?

If you do, that's fine. But if you don't, then why would you rely so heavily on anything that he wrote..... so to speak?

I call this 'scholar-flag-waving'!!! .

 

[oldbadger]

It's...It's...[sniffs with tears running down eyes]...it's as beautiful as I always imagined!

This post touched my heart-strings, and although determined not to let it happen, a tear ran down my cheek, as I worried about your welfare.

Such a short post from you can only mean that you are poorly? Do get well soon. :yes:

 

[godnotgod]

Post the picture of the monk showing the scroll to that chick, as well as the story behind her travels. That's the most convincing evidence for Jesus in the East from my perspective, and it seems like it is the least promoted.

That pic is hard to find. I already posted it for you once. Here it is again:

The monk in the pic is Lama Nawong Zangpo showing the scroll to Elizabeth Caspari and a Mrs. Gasque in 1939.

"In 1939 Elizabeth Caspari and her friend, Mrs. Gasque, were the last outsiders to be
granted the privilege of seeing the Tibetan book containing the “Lost Years” writing,
while they had stopped for a few days at the Hemis monastery near Leh, Ladakh, on their
sojourn with their travel party through India, Kashmir and Tibet. One of them took a
photo of the lama librarian holding the book, made of sheets of parchment, after he and
two other monks had surprised them by bringing it to them to look at. The librarian told
them, simply, “These books say your Jesus was here.”

http://www.proaxis.com/~deardorj/Critique_of_JRLewis_chapter.pdf

 

[Ingledsva]

Ahhh! But some ancient historians tell us the Hebrew originally came from India. The plot thickens...

The "Hebrew" what?

"...These Jews are derived from the Indian philosophers; they are named by the Indians Calani." Josephus (37 - 100 A.D.), (Book I:22.)

"Megasthenes, who was sent to India by Seleucus Nicator, about three hundred years before Christ says that the Jews 'were an Indian tribe or sect called Kalani...'" (Anacalypsis, by Godfrey Higgins, Vol. I; p. 400.)

"The tribe of Ioud or the Brahmin Abraham, left the Maturea of the kingdom of Oude in India and, settling in Goshen, or the house of the Sun or Heliopolis in Egypt, gave it the name of the place which they had left in India, Maturea." (Anacalypsis; Vol. I, p. 405.)

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