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[Jainarayan]

Why don't you ask some surgeons about that? I'm sure they'd love to tell you about all their surgeon friends who died during long surgeries because they had to wear their mask too long.

They take breaks. Several. They have assisting surgeons for that reason, among others. Stop posting false information.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

So you would go stand or sit by someone who is smoking just so you could cry foul!?

Where did you get that from an example of rude behaviors that I would go around to deliberately do this?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

THAT! is the reason why I don't like shutdowns. Only the "haves" can weather it.

I weathered it just fine. My only concern and issue was finding a bottle of butane to refill my torch lighter so I could keep using cannabis extracts.
Also a short bout of the stores having not much food but the junkiest of junk. But it was short lived amd I still had food.

 

[Jainarayan]

Where did you get that from an example of rude behaviors that I would go around to deliberately do this?

Did you just seriously ask that? Go back and read your own posts.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

They take breaks. Several. They have assisting surgeons for that reason, among others. Stop posting false information.

He didn't. Amd if you think it's false, report it. Misleading covid information is against the rules.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Did you just seriously ask that? Go back and read your own posts.

I know what I said. I said if someone blows cigarette smoke in someones face it is rude and a punch for it well deserved.
It's comparable to the mask situation, because unmasked you may be breathing a deadly virus (instead of chemicals and carcinogens) onto someone. And it works because nit wearing a mask is about like second hand smoke. No one should have to breathe your smoke. During a pandemic--especially involving such an extremely contagious and very destructive virus--no one should have to breathe your germs.

 

[Jainarayan]

He didn't. Amd if you think it's false, report it. Misleading covid information is against the rules.

You didn’t seriously just post that, did you?

 

[Jainarayan]

No one should have to breathe your smoke. During a pandemic--especially involving such an extremely contagious and very destructive virus--no one should have to breathe your germs.

Are you doing everything you can to remove yourself from that danger?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

You didn’t seriously just post that, did you?

Looks like I did.
And I am correct. She posted nothing incorrect. But if you think she did you are free to report the post.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Are you doing everything you can to remove yourself from that danger?

Yes. But I can't 100% avoid going out. Like going to the store for groceries. And I only go to stores that enforce masks and distance. Ive even started using apps to order things and get curbside pickup.

 

[Jainarayan]

Yes. But I can't 100% avoid going out. Like going to the store for groceries. And I only go to stores that enforce masks and distance. Ive even started using apps to order things and get curbside pickup.

Supermarkets deliver.

 

[Jainarayan]

Looks like I did.
And I am correct. She posted nothing incorrect. But if you think she did you are free to report the post.

Surgeons, anesthesiologists and med-surg nurses do 4, 6, 8 hour surgeries without pee breaks, standing on their feet all that time? Are you telling me that with a straight face? I’ll have to ask my orthopedic surgeon what he meant by assisting surgeonS and nurseS for my lumbar fusion, the one that took 4 hours.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Make a suggestion ... to the CDC, to any health authority... what are you doing about it other than whining what people aren’t doing? Are you just reading, listening to and watching what makes you say “see, I’m right”. So what are you doing about it other than whining? Are you doing the right thing? Are you quarantining yourself?

Sorry, are you not paying attention.
The topic under discussion is a mass, coordinated, country-wide effort to minimize the spread of COVID, as most other countries have managed to successfully carry out. The US has not.

I've been doing the right thing since March when we went into total lockdown. I wish more people would so we can get past this one day soon.

 

[SkepticThinker]

They take breaks. Several. They have assisting surgeons for that reason, among others. Stop posting false information.

Um, I'm not posting false information.
I'm countering false information that was posted by someone else who said that wearing a mask is dangerous and harmful, which of course, it is not.

My sister is a nurse. She has been wearing her mask all day long, every day for months.

 

[Jainarayan]

Sorry, are you not paying attention.
The topic under discussion is a mass, coordinated, country-wide effort to minimize the spread of COVID, as most other countries have managed to successfully carry out. The US has not.

I’m paying attention. You haven’t provided a plan for a “mass, coordinated, country-wide effort to minimize the spread of COVID” that you keep talking about. What’s the plan?

 

[Jainarayan]

My sister is a nurse. She has been wearing her mask all day long, every day for months.

She never takes it off? No lunch break, no coffee break?

 

[SkepticThinker]

I’m paying attention. You haven’t provided a plan for a “mass, coordinated, country-wide effort to minimize the spread of COVID” that you keep talking about. What’s the plan?

I told you to look to what other countries have done.
You rolled your eyes.

The very first stop is to coordinate the entire country on the same page. The US hasn't even gotten there yet.

 

[Jainarayan]

I told you to look to what other countries have done.
You rolled your eyes.

We’re not other countries. Stop making invalid comparisons.

The very first stop is to coordinate the entire country on the same page. The US hasn't even gotten there yet.

So humor me and tell me how you do that. How do we get everyone on that same page? What is that same page? Apparently you know. Humor me.

 

[SkepticThinker]

She never takes it off? No lunch break, no coffee break?

Very few. She has marks all over her face when she takes her mask off at night.

Have you not been watching the news? There have been videos and photos of nurses and doctors in this situation playing all over the news all over the world since last March.
They haven't typically been getting many breaks, because they have been overwhelmed with too many patients.

 

[SkepticThinker]

We’re not other countries. Stop making invalid comparisons.

Yeah, no kidding, the US is doing far, far worse than pretty much every other country.

Of course it's valid to compare the efforts being done in other countries and to adopt and use the most successful actions that other countries have taken to contain the virus.
Why wouldn't it be? And why wouldn't you want to do this?

So humor me and tell me how you do that. How do we get everyone on that same page? What is that same page? Apparently you know. Humor me.

You don't want to look at what other countries are doing so I guess you're screwed, huh?

Good thing we all don't have a such a defeatist attitude.